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Mail Rules messed up

 

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Good morning all,
My mail rules are misbehaving terribly! ?
I keep all my mail in folders, each one with a ¡°rule¡± to direct all email to that folder.
For instance: ?macsupportcentral has it¡¯s own folder, and a rule set up so that if [macsupportcentral] is in the subject line, the mail would instantly go to that folder.

So this morning I got a pop up warning that the macsupportcentral folder didn¡¯t exist, and it couldn¡¯t move the mail to a non-existant folder. ?The pop-up persisted and would not let me do anything other than force quit mail.

I ended up going to mail on my iPhone and deleting the messages from macsupportcentral, and then opening mail on my Mac.

I went into ¡°rules¡± to see what was wrong, and the folder for macsupportcentral was unchecked. ?I checked it - the same thing happened the next time mail came in.

I have about 30 mail rules, and the rest of them work fine, it¡¯s just the mail coming from the 3 ?I belong to that are causing the problem, so I deleted those rules, quit mail, reopened mail and the same thing happened.

Again, deleted the mail on my phone so I could get into Mail on my Mac.
Opened Rules and the rules that I delete were back, and were unchecked again.
I deleted the rules, closed Mail and re-opened it - same thing - over and over again.

I got mad at this point and decided to delete ALL of my mail rules, thinking there was a glitch somewhere. ?One by one I removed them.
Closed Mail, re-opened Mail and checked - all the rules were there again, but they were all unchecked.

I can¡¯t delete them!!!

Please, someone help me get his straightened out. ?Is there a place on my Mac that stores the mail rules outside of Mail, where perhaps I can permanently delete the rules and start over from scratch?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Janet



Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine

 

Just get an external case with USB3. You can use it for backups after this.

Put a Mac Pro drive in the external case and connect to your Mac.

On your Mac, System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing. Make sure the SMB option is enabled.?

A Windows machine on your network can now access the contents of the external.

Repeat with the other drive(s).?

You can do this over the internet using port forwarding if required but it will be much slower, of course.

Otto

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 01:13, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson=[email protected]> wrote:
My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).

I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. Another option would be to put the files on a USB SSD stick, but if the stick is formatted to work on a Mac, I don¡¯t think they could be read by a Windows box.

Anyone have suggestions how to accomplish this task. Some of the files are very large (many-layer architectural drawings), so I don¡¯t think we could use a FAT-32-formatted USB SSD stick.


Re: Mohave to Catalina and Microsoft #Upgrading

 

On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:49 AM, ballyrick via Groups.Io wrote:

The trouble only occurred a couple of days ago, when my wife tried to use the versions of Microsoft applications, on the iMac, "Word," Excel," "Power Point,"
etc. that she has been using for years on all the prior OS`s up to Mohave.
You didn't say which version of Microsoft Office you have.

Office 2011 isn't 64-bit, and never will be. So it can't run under Catalina.

Office 2016 isn't 64-bit, but it can be updated for FREE to be, and once updated it will run find under Catallina:
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Office 2019 (the latest version), of course, is entirely compatible with Catalina.

If you were using Office 2011 or earlier, and need a Microsoft Office replacement, may I recommend that you try this amazing FREE replacement first? (It is, after all, free. And you can just trash it if you don't like it.)

FreeOffice (free)


FreeOffice has a similar, but nicer interface than MS Word (I only use the word processing portion of it myself), and in my testing it has shockingly good compatibility with Word format files (both rendering and saving; much better than LibreOffice's compatibility), and it's absolutely free. it's 64-bit and runs under Catalina.

There is a commercial version with a few more features, but the free version is all that many folks will ever need. Since it's free, it's worth checking out. A few days after downloading and registering the free version, the company will e-mail you an offer for the commercial version, called SoftMaker Office, for only $20. Which is entirely worth it if you like the free version, if for no other reason than to support the company.

Comparison chart of the features and costs of each version of this Office product from Softmaker:
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Note that the business version is really only for big businesses with networks. Also note that there are BOTH stand-alone and subscription options, your choice. The $20 offer, noted above, does not require a subscription.

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

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Re: onyx #Resolved

 

On Nov 3, 2019, at 5:27 AM, Sew Walker wrote:

I have Mac OS Catalina 10.15.1
I can not find a website to download ONYX. -
Does any one know of one?
Here it is, direct from the developer:



___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

___________________________________________


Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine

 

jimrobertson wrote:
My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had?him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but?neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows?machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).

I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any?of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess?is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine?would be WiFi transfers over my LAN.

A USB3 dock that accepts 2.5 and 3.5 inch SATA drives. $30.

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Once you have this, there are many solutions open to you.

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...



Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine

 

Howdy.

There are several ways to connect a Macintosh formatted HFS+ drive to a
Windows box and move files back and forth.

Check out

Paragon HFS+
$20, and does both write and read.

There are other options. Search for Macintosh HFS+ driver for Windows.

Denver Dan




On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:13:29 -0700, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote:
My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company
had him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac
Pro, but neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a
Windows machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).

I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t
know if any of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my
iMac. My guess is that if we can do that, the best way to get them
onto a Windows machine would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. Another
option would be to put the files on a USB SSD stick, but if the stick
is formatted to work on a Mac, I don¡¯t think they could be read by a
Windows box.

Anyone have suggestions how to accomplish this task. Some of the
files are very large (many-layer architectural drawings), so I don¡¯t
think we could use a FAT-32-formatted USB SSD stick.

Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson
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iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro


Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine

 

My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).

I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. Another option would be to put the files on a USB SSD stick, but if the stick is formatted to work on a Mac, I don¡¯t think they could be read by a Windows box.

Anyone have suggestions how to accomplish this task. Some of the files are very large (many-layer architectural drawings), so I don¡¯t think we could use a FAT-32-formatted USB SSD stick.

Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson


Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?

 

No problem. After a few seconds of "eh?", I realised what you meant.?

Otto

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 00:40, KarenP <waystation9@...> wrote:
and I used dictation to write it, so¡­ sorry for the confusion


Re: group directory #Resolved

 

Yes, it's a mutual "You can see mine if I can see yours" kind of thing.?Moderators can *not* override that.?Made sense?once I realised how it works.

Otto


On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 23:29, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
So apparently the ability to see others in the directory, is a two way street. Funny, but I'm ok with it. Especially the only thing I see it does is allow you to send an email to an individual, and not the group. I can do that by getting their email from a posting.


Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?

KarenP
 

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and I used dictation to write it, so¡­ sorry for the confusion

?? Karen
? ?organizing my iMac to the Nines999





On Nov 3, 2019, at 7:35 PM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

No difference. A loop is a repeat or return in both UK and?US English.

A loupe (French word) is small magnifier?used by jewellers and photographers.

They are homophones. I guessed what she meant from that.?

Otto

On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 23:33, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
Ah, the difference between American and British. But Karen did not make it clear until the end. As I read it, I was thinking she meant some sort of repeat function, not magnification.





Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?

 

No difference. A loop is a repeat or return in both UK and?US English.

A loupe (French word) is small magnifier?used by jewellers and photographers.

They are homophones. I guessed what she meant from that.?

Otto


On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 23:33, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
Ah, the difference between American and British. But Karen did not make it clear until the end. As I read it, I was thinking she meant some sort of repeat function, not magnification.


Re: Free Apple TV+

 

We get the free year in the US with purchase of a wide variety of devices after September 10.

Pat

Sent from my iPad Pro2

On Nov 3, 2019, at 4:53 PM, JR via Groups.Io <Yahoo_jr@...> wrote:

?FWIW
Here in Canada - if you buy a new iPhone after Nov.1, you will be able to get Apple TV+ FREE for one year.... automatically renewed thereafter unless you cancel...




Re: Mohave to Catalina and Microsoft #Upgrading

 

It is likely that she was not purchasing it from the Apple App Store, and so It is asking for your administrator's password to allow the download and install.


On Nov 3, 2019, at 12:05 PM, ballyrick via Groups.Io wrote:

Dan, Pat Vince,

Thank you so much for your assistance and even more for caring.

We will attempt to resolve tonight or tomorrow.

Rick


Re: group directory #Resolved

 

I belong to 4 Apple related groups at io. On two, the owners apparently decided not to offer Directory as an option. They have 418 and 227 members. Two have chosen the option of a Directory, and they have 141 and 282 members.?

Only you are pushing for everyone to change their settings, and only 18 of 282 members of this list have chosen to share. I have no idea how many have or have not opted in on the other group, but I bet it is low, since no one has brought it up. The platform owner by default, decided that individuals have to opt in. And so far, I see not advantage to opting in.?

One disadvantage is I think, why make it one iota easier for a spammer? And once capture by a spammer, there is no way to retract it.

I think you are out voted.

Brent


On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:53 AM, timmeidroth wrote:

suggestion, folks... change so you can be in the directory.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 9:28 AM Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus=[email protected]> wrote:
Owners & mods can see everyone, but everyone else, even after changing their own privacy settings, can only see others who done the same.
Subscription > Group Profile > Profile Privacy

Otto

On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 15:18, Hugh <hcrymble@...> wrote:
I just opted in and can see you now.







Free Apple TV+

 

FWIW
Here in Canada - if you buy a new iPhone after Nov.1, you will be able to get Apple TV+ FREE for one year.... automatically renewed thereafter unless you cancel...


Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?

 

Either way, I would like directional arrows.


On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:40 AM, KarenP wrote:

That¡¯s how it feels to me right now, but I haven¡¯t given the ¡®new way¡¯ a chance yet and actually learned it.
I never liked the loupe much either. I also wished Apple just provided us with direction arrows to place the cursor (probably the ONE thing Android does better).

?? Karen
? ?organizing my iMac to the Nines999





On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io <drkelly@...> wrote:



On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:12 AM, rlhamil <rlhamil@...> wrote:

Here's something that describes the old and new. Apparently little magnifying glass is the old way, and the cursor that gets taller if you hold on it a moment (which you can then drag) is the new way. ? The new way is supposed to be easier for most people once they get used to it. If seeing the text is a problem, there's always Zoom under Accessibility in Settings.


The new way is much harder. If I just want to position the cursor but I¡¯m not editing so I have no keyboard it is a real pain.

Dave?



Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?

 

Funny, my father was a professional photographer, and I now have lots of various forms of magnifiers, with and without stands, arms and lights.

Brent

On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:02 AM, Daniel Settles wrote:

Howdy.

I used to be involved with clients who did serious printing and
graphics work and carried a loupe in my briefcase for looking at
printed materials, photos, etc.

Denver Dan


On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 10:56:27 -0500, KarenP wrote:
Thanks Dan - I haven¡¯t tried that but will have to and hopefully it
will solve the issue.
(I meant a ¡°loupe¡±)


?? Karen
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iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro



Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?

 

Ah, the difference between American and British. But Karen did not make it clear until the end. As I read it, I was thinking she meant some sort of repeat function, not magnification.


On Nov 3, 2019, at 7:21 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote:

I've not heard of a text loop. Is this a "loupe" (simple magnifier)?

Otto

On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 15:16, KarenP <waystation9@...> wrote:
Has anybody else noticed that in the latest download for iPad (IOS 13.2), there is no text loop available when trying to edit text? There are a lot of changes in this particular software update, and it's going to take me some time to get used to them, but the text edit one seems like a downgrade to me. It's impossible to see where the cursor is when my finger is in front of it without that magnifying loop.

Does anyone know if there's a way to get the loop back or some kind of workaround?





Re: group directory #Resolved

 

So apparently the ability to see others in the directory, is a two way street. Funny, but I'm ok with it. Especially the only thing I see it does is allow you to send an email to an individual, and not the group. I can do that by getting their email from a posting.

Brent


On Nov 3, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Hugh wrote:

I just opted in and can see you now.

hugh

On Nov 3, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Can you see me in Directory now?

Otto

On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 14:52, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
Tim, you being a member and not an owner or mod, can only see the ones, where the member in their profile privacy setting have allowed you to see it. Mine set to the default, does not allow you, but Otto as a moderator can see all. Funny you can not see the owner, the moderators including Otto. I guess they still have the default setting.






Re: group directory #Resolved

 

And you won't see this Brent, because I am not allowing it to be shared. And that is the default setting, so you won't see most members.

Breht


On Nov 3, 2019, at 7:17 AM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io wrote:

On Nov 3, 2019, timmeidroth wrote:
now there are 17 visible in the directory...they are in alphabetical order,?horizontally, left to right, top row first and so on...since the listings shown go?from a to t it's logical there are no more listings...i.e., no more pages...all this?goes back to the original question, which is: what determines whther a?member/subscriber is in the directory?

This is the same group I see.
Which, I note, does NOT contain anyone named ¡°Dan¡± or ¡°Otto¡± or ¡°Brent¡±¡­

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
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