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Re: error message that system has run out of application memory

 

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Go to the top left corner of your screen, then
Apple Menu > About this Mac > Storage

Otto

On 4 Dec 2023, at 17:41, Sew Walker <sewnyes@...> wrote:

On storage I have used 104.28 of 121.02 GB

I do not know if I have a SDD (not sure what it is). Hound I know if ?have a SDD?

I did uninstall some apps that I never use and that seemed to help


When I hit storage there was a statement. "use iCloud". so I did that
I also got rid of some documents that I did not leave and think this help



Re: error message that system has run out of application memory

 

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Sew Walker wrote:
On storage I have used 104.28 of 121.02 GB
I do not know if I have a SDD (not sure what it is). Hound I know if ?have a SDD?
I did uninstall some apps that I never use and that seemed to help

Earlier you wrote:
I have a?Mac Book Pro 20172.3 GHz Dual core Intel i5
8GB 2133 Hz LPDDR3

Mactracker tells me that would be a 13” MBPro”
MacBookPro 14,1
Model Number A1708
EMC 3164

These all came with SSD storage drives, and yours is apparently a “128 GB” version.

And, as Randy suggested, it is very full.

OWC sells upgrades for this here:
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--?
Jim Saklad



Re: error message that system has run out of application memory

 

On storage I have used 104.28 of 121.02 GB

I do not know if I have a SDD (not sure what it is). Hound I know if ?have a SDD?

I did uninstall some apps that I never use and that seemed to help


When I hit storage there was a statement. "use iCloud". so I did that
I also got rid of some documents that I did not leave and think this help


Thanks
Sue


Re: error message that system has run out of application memory

 

Randy, I get that message. Please tell me what I need to do. I’ve got a new 2T SSD with 1.76T available in my iMac running Mojave 10.14.6. I’ve got 24GB of RAM.

John Engberg

On Dec 4, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:



On Dec 4, 2023, at 6:39 AM, Sew Walker <sewnyes@...> wrote:

I shut down and restart and constantly get this error. (screen shot attached)
I, not infrequently, hear from users who have gotten this message. In every single case so far, what that error message is telling you isn’t what it seems on its face.

Rather than not having enough RAM, the user always turns out to have a rotating disk hard drive that is too full and/or too fragmented. What the message is telling you is that there is no longer enough free *contiguous* drive space for your application to run properly. There is no space for your application to write scratch, virtual memory, database, etc. meta data to disk.

How big is your hard drive and how full is it? Generally the problem occurs when your drive is approaching 80% full, but this is only a very rough rule of thumb. I’ve seen it happen with drives that are are closer to 60% full and very fragmented, and I’ve seen drives having no problem that are well over 80% full because they have very low fragmentation.

The solution is to offload a bunch of data and then to defragment your hard drive. OR, to get a new, bigger, internal hard drive.

The above guidance is quite a bit different if you instead have an SSD. If that’s the case, let me know and I can tell you what to do for an SSD.



__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________









Re: Finder Not Responding

 

Gijzette wrote:
I have a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro that is issued to me by my company. A couple of weeks ago finder started giving me issues. I get the spinning beach ball and have to force quit finder. When I go into the force quit selection it shows finder is not responding.

I attempted to boot into safe mode to see if that resolved the issue, using the instructions on Apple's support page for the M1, but I was unable to get into safe mode. I gave up after 3 tries. This was on Thursday evening and after the Mac booted up finder worked fine all day Friday. I put my Mac to sleep Friday evening, used it for a few minutes on Sunday then put it back to sleep. Today, finder is back to the spinning beach ball and I have to force quit it.

I use finder multiple times throughout the day so this is very frustrating. If this was my personal Mac I would perform an OS repair. Since this is not my personal Mac I'm not sure what the company has installed that will be uninstalled by doing an OS repair.

Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? Any idea what my company could've changed to prevent me from booting into safe mode?
1. This Mac has the operating system (macOS 12.0 or later) installed on its own read-only partition. The company probably CAN NOT alter stuff there, and certainly SHOULD NOT. So an OS repair from a Recovery System boot should be fine.

2. This machine should only take maybe 20 seconds to go from power-on/cold boot to the login screen, so I would (and for my M1 Mac, I *do*) shut it down overnight, rather than just putting it to sleep. It may *need* to do some of the housekeeping that happens during the machine start-up.

--
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...


Re: Finder Not Responding

 

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Hi

Are you following the instructions for Safe Boot for the M series?

Continue holding the power button on startup imtol you see More Options?

Can you run EntrCheck Pro to identify issues?

Paul

On Dec 4, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Gijzette <gsstrickland@...> wrote:

I have a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro that is issued to me by my company. A couple of weeks ago finder started giving me issues. I get the spinning beach ball and have to force quit finder. When I go into the force quit selection it shows finder is not responding.?

I attempted to boot into safe mode to see if that resolved the?issue, using the instructions on Apple's support page for the M1, but I was unable to get into safe mode. I gave up after 3 tries. This was on Thursday evening and after the Mac booted up finder worked fine all day Friday. I put my Mac to sleep Friday evening, used it for a few minutes on Sunday then put it back to sleep. Today, finder is back to the spinning beach ball and I have to force quit it.?

I use finder multiple times throughout the day so this is very frustrating. If this was my personal Mac I would perform an OS repair. Since this is not my personal Mac I'm not sure what the company has installed that will be uninstalled by doing an OS repair.?

Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? Any idea what my company could've changed to prevent me from booting into safe mode?

Thanks!
~~Gijzette


Finder Not Responding

 

I have a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro that is issued to me by my company. A couple of weeks ago finder started giving me issues. I get the spinning beach ball and have to force quit finder. When I go into the force quit selection it shows finder is not responding.?

I attempted to boot into safe mode to see if that resolved the?issue, using the instructions on Apple's support page for the M1, but I was unable to get into safe mode. I gave up after 3 tries. This was on Thursday evening and after the Mac booted up finder worked fine all day Friday. I put my Mac to sleep Friday evening, used it for a few minutes on Sunday then put it back to sleep. Today, finder is back to the spinning beach ball and I have to force quit it.?

I use finder multiple times throughout the day so this is very frustrating. If this was my personal Mac I would perform an OS repair. Since this is not my personal Mac I'm not sure what the company has installed that will be uninstalled by doing an OS repair.?

Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? Any idea what my company could've changed to prevent me from booting into safe mode?

Thanks!
~~Gijzette


Re: error message that system has run out of application memory

 

On Dec 4, 2023, at 6:39 AM, Sew Walker <sewnyes@...> wrote:

I shut down and restart and constantly get this error. (screen shot attached)
I, not infrequently, hear from users who have gotten this message. In every single case so far, what that error message is telling you isn’t what it seems on its face.

Rather than not having enough RAM, the user always turns out to have a rotating disk hard drive that is too full and/or too fragmented. What the message is telling you is that there is no longer enough free *contiguous* drive space for your application to run properly. There is no space for your application to write scratch, virtual memory, database, etc. meta data to disk.

How big is your hard drive and how full is it? Generally the problem occurs when your drive is approaching 80% full, but this is only a very rough rule of thumb. I’ve seen it happen with drives that are are closer to 60% full and very fragmented, and I’ve seen drives having no problem that are well over 80% full because they have very low fragmentation.

The solution is to offload a bunch of data and then to defragment your hard drive. OR, to get a new, bigger, internal hard drive.

The above guidance is quite a bit different if you instead have an SSD. If that’s the case, let me know and I can tell you what to do for an SSD.



__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


Re: error message that system has run out of application memory

 

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On Dec 4, 2023, at 7:39?AM, Sew Walker <sewnyes@...> wrote:

I shut down and restart and constantly get this error. (screen shot attached)
I have a?Mac Book Pro 2017

2.3 GHz Dual core Intel i5


I don’t know why that’s happening, but you might get some clue by running the application “Activity Monitor” from your Applications>Utilities folder.

--?
Jim Robertson


error message that system has run out of application memory

 

I shut down and restart and constantly get this error. (screen shot attached)
I have a?Mac Book Pro 2017

2.3 GHz Dual core Intel i5

8GB 2133 HJz LPDDR3

MacOS ventura 13.6.1
any help is appreciated.


Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

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Yes, I’d forgotten that. Just click on the 64-Bit column header to separate them.

Otto

On 3 Dec 2023, at 18:57, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

It is also shown in the system info, under about this Mac.


Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

It is also shown in the system info, under about this Mac.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Dec 3, 2023, at 03:50, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

?

On Dec 2, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:

I downloaded Go64 and have been receiving the following prompt:

"No applications were found on Macintosh HD.

Try instead:

32-Bitcheck (free)
Check any or all folders of your choosing, and you can check just your apps. Generates text reports if you like.



__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________









Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

On Dec 2, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:

I downloaded Go64 and have been receiving the following prompt:

"No applications were found on Macintosh HD.

Try instead:

32-Bitcheck (free)
Check any or all folders of your choosing, and you can check just your apps. Generates text reports if you like.



__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

Tony Troiano wrote:
This is quite a jump in operating systems. Under Sierra I have a lot of archived email set up in AppleMail which I have filtered into many mailboxes. Can I expect all the content in AppleMail to transfer over to Ventura faithfully with the Rules I set up intact?
The mail database seems to be up-converted every time macOS undergoes a major upgrade.
When I started using iPhone, and switched to IMAP for my mail, I also switched to iCloud as my mail server.

I gradually got almost all of my inbox-sorting rules set up ON the server, which pretty much guarantees that they survive annual macOS upgrade transitions.

--
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...


Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

There are a couple of convertors buried in some of the “name change” upgrades. Mail is one of the apps that gets affected. It is best to upgrade one major upgrade at a time. Or do a clean install, and chance losing your rules.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Dec 2, 2023, at 19:12, Paul via groups.io <paul@...> wrote:

?Hi

St Clare software. Go64 is a free app that will determine the 32 bits programs.

One option is to make a clone, remove them and then do the migration.

But yes Migration Assistant will separate the apps and let you know about unsupported.

The rules in Mail is tricky. I have seen both results- the rules came through on two machines when I upgraded to Big Sur. I don’t think they did when we upgraded to Monterey.

Paul

Sent from my iPhone. Some imagination required.

On Dec 2, 2023, at 6:11?PM, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:

?When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system. Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?

This is quite a jump in operating systems. Under Sierra I have a lot of archived email set up in AppleMail which I have filtered into many mailboxes. Can I expect all the content in AppleMail to transfer over to Ventura faithfully with the Rules I set up intact?

This is the first time I am using Migration Assistant and I’m a bit nervous about doing it incorrectly. Many thanks for any and all advice.

—Tony Troiano—







Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

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Thank you Jim & Paul for your responses. I downloaded Go64 and have been receiving the following prompt:

"No applications were found on Macintosh HD.

Spotlight may be disabled on this disk. If it is, please go to your Spotlight settings in System Preferences and change the Privacy settings to allow it to be searched.”

I have gone to Spotlight settings - but still get the message.

I have added Applications folder to Privacy list then removed it - still get the message above.

Apparently I’m missing something.

—Tony Troiano—

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On Dec 2, 2023, at 10:11 PM, Paul via <paul@...> wrote:

Hi

St Clare software. Go64 is a free app that will determine the 32 bits programs.

One option is to make a clone, remove them and then do the migration.

But yes Migration Assistant will separate the apps and let you know about unsupported.

The rules in Mail is tricky. I have seen both results- the rules came through on two machines when I upgraded to Big Sur. I don’t think they did when we upgraded to Monterey.

Paul

. Some imagination required.

=======================
The app is Go64:
<>

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
<Jim logo small.jpg>

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On Dec 2, 2023, at 6:11?PM, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:

?When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system. Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?

This is quite a jump in operating systems. Under Sierra I have a lot of archived email set up in AppleMail which I have filtered into many mailboxes. Can I expect all the content in AppleMail to transfer over to Ventura faithfully with the Rules I set up intact?

This is the first time I am using Migration Assistant and I’m a bit nervous about doing it incorrectly. Many thanks for any and all advice.

—Tony Troiano—


Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

Hi

St Clare software. Go64 is a free app that will determine the 32 bits programs.

One option is to make a clone, remove them and then do the migration.

But yes Migration Assistant will separate the apps and let you know about unsupported.

The rules in Mail is tricky. I have seen both results- the rules came through on two machines when I upgraded to Big Sur. I don’t think they did when we upgraded to Monterey.

Paul

Sent from my iPhone. Some imagination required.

On Dec 2, 2023, at 6:11?PM, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:

?When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system. Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?

This is quite a jump in operating systems. Under Sierra I have a lot of archived email set up in AppleMail which I have filtered into many mailboxes. Can I expect all the content in AppleMail to transfer over to Ventura faithfully with the Rules I set up intact?

This is the first time I am using Migration Assistant and I’m a bit nervous about doing it incorrectly. Many thanks for any and all advice.

—Tony Troiano—




Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

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Tony Troiano wrote:
When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system.

Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?

The app is Go64:
<>

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
Jim logo small.jpg


Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura

 

When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system. Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?

This is quite a jump in operating systems. Under Sierra I have a lot of archived email set up in AppleMail which I have filtered into many mailboxes. Can I expect all the content in AppleMail to transfer over to Ventura faithfully with the Rules I set up intact?

This is the first time I am using Migration Assistant and I’m a bit nervous about doing it incorrectly. Many thanks for any and all advice.

—Tony Troiano—


Re: Setting up Brother Laser Printer?

 

Thank you, Todhop and Paul.? One of the instructions said I needed a cable temporarily for setup. I didn't have this cable and it took a few days to borrow one.? When I tried again, the printer set up?properly without needing the cable.? It's working now (knock knock).