Howdy.

Exclude means it won't be backed up. No Time Machine backup when the
drive is excluded.

Note: You can add a folder to the exclusion list. It's not just for
drives.

Denver Dan



On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:46:41 -0800, Joan Sax via Groups.Io wrote:

I am confused by the wording in the Time Machine System Preference.
under the Options window. When it says "Exclude these items from
backups", does it mean that these disks listed are not to be backed
up, but rather receive backups, or are these disks listed to be the
destination disks for backups? I at first understood this in the
first meaning, as these disks were not to be the source of backups -
ie. were not to be backed up, but you seem to be saying that they
should be the destination of backups and should therefore not appear
in the "Exclude these items from backups".
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That’s a good question! I have no idea. I was trying to download a whole bunch of podcasts at one time, which normally does not cause a problem. But this time, it hung up iTunes so badly that I could not force quit. I even went to activity monitor and closed out all of the iTunes processes but still had no luck force quitting iTunes. After trying numerous times, I finally went ahead and closed chrome. Then I tried iTunes again and lo and behold, it quit.

Obviously, you are and have been. Servers make mistakes too.?

I am confused by the wording in the Time Machine System Preference. under the Options window. ?When it says "Exclude these items from backups", does it mean that these disks listed are not to be backed up, but rather receive backups, or are these disks listed to be the destination disks for backups? I at first understood this in the first meaning, as these disks were not to be the source of backups - ie. were not to be backed up, but you seem to be saying that they should be the destination of backups and should therefore not appear in the "Exclude these items from backups".

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Hi Brent - that would be a logical reason, but the message I got back said:

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Thanks for checking, Dan. It probably was a glitch. It happened while I was trying to shut down my iMac and could not force quit iTunes for the life of me. I used my iPad to send the message so maybe something was going on with the connection at that time.

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Howdy.

Karen, your message "I tried to send..." came through OK.?
I just checked logged in to group and your membership looks normal.?
Perhaps a temporary glitch??

Denver Dan

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Your post made it. ?

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I tried to send a message to this group this morning and got a reply saying that I need to subscribe. I’m just sending this one as a test since I've never seen this message before and have been posting and replying to this group for a while now with no troubles.

Howdy.

Joan, the Screen Shot of your SysPref>Time Machine items to exclude
shows the LaCie drive, both partitions.

So you have it in the list of drives to NOT backup with Time Machine.
You can remove it by selecting with a click and then clicking the minus
sign below.



I'd do that first, then restart your Mac, check the available free
space on the LaCie unit (enough?) and then try a Time Machine backup
and see what happens.

As a separate and next step, turn off FileVault and let it go through
the time to un-encrypt your boot drive. Depending on how much is
encrypted it could take some time to finish.

Then attempt another Time Machine backup as a test. Tell the group
what happens.

Note: There are valid reasons to exclude some drives from a Time
Machine backup. I exclude a RAID enclosures drives because they are
backed up with CarbonCopyCloner. Note that I use the CCC backup
feature and not the CCC clone part.

I have a set of drives in a RAID and they are backed up to another set
of drives in a different RAID. I exclude the 2nd RAID's drives from
being indexed by Spotlight (see SysPrefs>Spotlight>Privacy tab.

Good luck!

Denver Dan



On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 09:33:28 -0500, Joan Sax via Groups.Io wrote:

Below is a screen shot of both my Time Machine Options window and of
my LaCie drive showing its capacity. Filevault is turned on. Before I
do anything, are you saying that I should turn Filevault off? Also,
the LaCie Drive isn’t the only one stating "Time Machine couldn’t
complete the backup to “Joan’s AirPort Extreme.local” There are no
disks to back up This can happen if all available disks are in the Do
not backup list. Click Options to edit the list.” And as you can see
from the screen shot, my iMac time machine drive is not listed under
the Exclude these items from backup.
So are you suggesting that I turn off Filevault and also reformat my
LaCie drive without the LACIE Share section? I do have a SuperDuper
backup of my drive on the LaCie Drive and I will not make sure I have
one on the Airport Extreme connected drive using Super Duper.
I will wait for further instructions before I do either turning off
Filevault and/or reformatting the LaCie drive

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To Denver Dan,

Start by working through:


Paul

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 5:16 PM Joan Sax via Groups.Io
<jsax@...> wrote:

I keep getting a message that Time Machine was unable to do a backup. I have two backup disks, a LaCie backup disk directly connected to my iMac (27-inch late 2014 running Sierra, 10.12.6) and a backup disk connected to my AirPort Extreme router. When I click on the Time Machine preferences, there are little notifications besides my LaCie disk and my iMac Time machine disk that say “There are no disks to back up. This can happen if all available disks are in the “Do not back up “ list. Click Options to edit the list.”

I did click options and the LaCie disk and LACIE SHARE (I’m not sure what that is) are the only ones listed in “Exclude these items from backups”. My iMac is not listed. Furthermore when I try to add a disk I see iMac time machine (the one connected to my AirPort Extreme) and it won’t allow me to add it to the excluded list. I also see “Joan’s iMac.sparsebundle” as an “invisible item”. What on earth is going on and how can I get back to normal Time Machine backups?

Joan

Howdy.

Joan, several questions and comments.

1. Do you have FileVault turned on?
See System Prefs>Privacy & Security>FileVault.

2. Can you do a screen capture and attach it to your reply?
Do the screen capture of the Sys Prefs>Time Machine>Options window.
You can drag the edge of the Options (exclusions) window to make it
larger, if necessary.

3. A sparse bundle is a specialized form of a Disk Image File.
When FileVault is turned on it can convert a backup into an encrypted
sparsebundle file.
If you turn FileVault off, it may take some time to un-encrypt your
files so patience is needed.
Sparsebundle on Mac was introduced with macOS X 10.5 Leopard while the
Disk Image File has been around much longer.
Some drives intended for backup may do a sparsebundle automatically. I
do Time Machine backup to an NAS Mirrored RAID drive enclosure. NAS =
Network Attached Storage (connected to my Ethernet network. Mirrored =
two twined HDDs that each have a copy of each file. RAID = Redundant
Array of Individual Disks. The Time Machine backups are in the form
of a sparsebundle.

4. A "share" may be a partition on a drive. Some LaCie drives
intended for backup may have two partitions and one may be a Share.
Getting rid of a Share means using the Disk Utility Partition command.
Another way to think of this is getting rid of the Share partition by
creating one large partition on the LaCie.
The first time you do that it might be confusing. IF YOU DO partition
the LaCie into one partition, Make sure the data on the LaCie is not
lost and is available on a different drive.

What is the total capacity of the LaCie drive?
What is the capacity of the Share partition on the LaCie drive.
What is the amount of available (free) space on the LaCie Share
partition and on the other partition?

Denver Dan



On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 12:16:36 -0500, Joan Sax via Groups.Io wrote:

I keep getting a message that Time Machine was unable to do a backup.
I have two backup disks, a LaCie backup disk directly connected to my
iMac (27-inch late 2014 running Sierra, 10.12.6) and a backup disk
connected to my AirPort Extreme router. When I click on the Time
Machine preferences, there are little notifications besides my LaCie
disk and my iMac Time machine disk that say “There are no disks to
back up. This can happen if all available disks are in the “Do not
back up “ list. Click Options to edit the list.”

I did click options and the LaCie disk and LACIE SHARE (I’m not sure
what that is) are the only ones listed in “Exclude these items from
backups”. My iMac is not listed. Furthermore when I try to add a
disk I see iMac time machine (the one connected to my AirPort
Extreme) and it won’t allow me to add it to the excluded list. I
also see “Joan’s iMac.sparsebundle” as an “invisible item”. What
on earth is going on and how can I get back to normal Time Machine
backups?

Joan

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I keep getting a message that Time Machine was unable to do a backup. I have two backup disks, a LaCie backup disk directly connected to my iMac (27-inch late 2014 running Sierra, 10.12.6) and a backup disk connected to my AirPort Extreme router. When I click on the Time Machine preferences, there are little notifications besides my LaCie disk and my iMac Time machine disk that say “There are no disks to back up. This can happen if all available disks are in the “Do not back up “ list. Click Options to edit the list.”

I did click options and the LaCie disk and LACIE SHARE (I’m not sure what that is) are the only ones listed in “Exclude these items from backups”. My iMac is not listed. Furthermore when I try to add a disk I see iMac time machine (the one connected to my AirPort Extreme) and it won’t allow me to add it to the excluded list. I also see “Joan’s iMac.sparsebundle” as an “invisible item”. What on earth is going on and how can I get back to normal Time Machine backups?

Joan

On Feb 25, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

It certainly puts to bed the lie that there is no malware for the Mac because there aren't enough Macs being used. 13% of the U.S. market is many millions of Macs in use. (Apple estimates over 10 million.)

Sorry, that should have been 100 million.

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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

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Hi guys,

I had an incident today where an appointment was already set up, and I
received a mail saying it had a response from one for one of the
people invited. This is normal for Calendar and I click on the mail
attachment to which Calendar then tried to create an event from the
response. This then overwrote the original invitation rather than
updating it but in the process wipe it (and cancelled in this case)
the invite from all the attendees calendars. However, when I tried to
set the invitation back up again it would not allow me to do this as a
recurrent event despite the calendar now all having free time due to
the cancelation of the previous scheduled event. The only way around
this was to set the events up on a one by one basis. I have not
experienced this behaviour from Calendar before (as clicking on
responses I mail I am sure just used to update the invite in the
calendar with the persons response.)

Can anyone shed any light?

Best regards,

Paul Harrison

On Feb 25, 2020, at 8:56 AM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote:

And I would argue that this is a ringing endorsement of macOS and Apple products.

It certainly puts to bed the lie that there is no malware for the Mac because there aren't enough Macs being used. 13% of the U.S. market is many millions of Macs in use. (Apple estimates over 10 million.)

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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

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