Re: it¡¯s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
On Nov 2, 2019, at 3:21 AM, Tom_Kirshbaum wrote: Each time I bump up the available storage by deleting or transferring to an external drive, the gain starts disappearing. So, you've tried deleting all logs and that hasn't helped? ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Don't forget that you can see and use these "special" characters in Keyboard Viewer. This is in the "flag" menu in the top menu bar.?
With the Keyboard Viewer window open, you can see the effect of the various combinations of modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, Option).
Otto
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This is a text character just like a letter a or b.
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Re: it¡¯s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
Each time I bump up the available storage by deleting or transferring to an external drive, the gain starts disappearing.?
Now, I¡¯m afraid, the end is near. Available memory is 5 MB. Safari won¡¯t open any web sites, Time Machine fails on backup, and I can¡¯t run any software. I¡¯ve done all the tests my resources allowed and now the OS doesn¡¯t allow me to do anything at all. Looks like I¡¯ll have to do a clean install. Since my most recent successful backup was over a week ago, I¡¯m going to lose a lot of recent financial and message records. Without the ability to back up, I can¡¯t figure out a way to save the last week¡¯s files. I¡¯m sure not looking forward to this.?
BTW, I can¡¯t increase the storage BBC SSD because in the 2017 MacBook Pro it is soldered in place. Besides, as the System eats up more and more storage, increasing the amount of storage would only delay the inevitable.?
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 02:13 AM, jimrobertson wrote:
On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:54 PM, David Myers via Groups.Io < myavid76@...> wrote:
I am happy to report that the operation was a complete susses. The mew SSD arrived yesterday and I started the task today around 3 PM and finished around 9 PM. To take apart and clean inside and replace the hard drive took about 1hour. To take the screen apart to clean inside and reassemble took about 2 hours. This was a delicate task, not for the fainthearted. The rest of the time was spent copying the clone to the new SSD. Here are my tips for this job. Wear a ground strap and DO NOT use a vacuum to clean the inside, they can produce a ton of static electricity. Use compressed air. Make sure your wife is not watching when you blow the dust all over the house, I learned that one the hard way. And don't force anything just take your time.
Thank you SO much, and I¡¯m happy it turned out well. The grounding strap is something I¡¯ve wondered about, because I¡¯ve watched a bunch of OWC and iFixIt and other independent videos, and none of the people doing the disassembly/reassembly seem to be wearing them. Back in the days of the cute little box 128 K Mac, there could have been several thousand volts on the back end of the CRT for people who ventured inside, and there was no space to do what we could without being quite close to that gun. My understanding is that the threat to US is when working around the power supply, but the threat to the iMac itself is always there.
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I¡¯m following a discussion on Macintouch focused on what mods add the biggest boost to the iMac, and I¡¯ll probably get going once that discussion is over.
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Thanks again,
Jim Robertson
Hi Folks, ???? I have dissected almost all of my iMacs going back to the one with the stainless steel stalk that held the screen (one of my favorites). It is absolutely worth it, even if the process is tedious and time consuming....it's the only way to really get the innards clean. Plus, you may be able to perform all sorts of upgrades. Going from a HDD to an SDD should be a no-brainer because the cooling requirements should be much less. WRT, static electricity....I alway use an anti-static mat with an alligator clip that attaches to the metal frame of whatever system I'm working on. If you run into a problem that you can't solve, (in my case, replacing failing capacitors in the power supply of my second iMac), then it may be time for an upgrade, but there is no reason, IMO, that an iMac should not last upwards to ten years. You might not have much support from Apple, but older systems still have value. And if all else fails, and you feel adventurous, you can always go the Hackintosh route.
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
On Nov 1, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Brent via Groups.Io < whodo678@...> wrote:
We are sorry you lost a lot of stuff in the fire, but let it go.
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How does that advance any discussion?
I did point out that I once had 3 cases that securely hold a laptop Mac well cushioned and now have only one, but the point of that wasn¡¯t to wail about things that happened two years ago but just to say that I don¡¯t think that the genesis of this repetitive rebooting a few days ago could be blamed on my laptop bag(s).
Your other comment (no, not the one about leeches and poisonous therapy in medicine, but rather the one that says maybe I should just be happy the MacBook Pro has stopped rebooting and go back to using it) is more on point, but of course another (generally considered valuable) voice has suggested that perhaps it¡¯s time to say goodbye to this machine because of its sketchy performance.
I¡¯ll try to keep my own contributions less embellished and more on point.
Jim Robertson
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On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:54 PM, David Myers via Groups.Io < myavid76@...> wrote:
I am happy to report that the operation was a complete susses. The mew SSD arrived yesterday and I started the task today around 3 PM and finished around 9 PM. To take apart and clean inside and replace the hard drive took about 1hour. To take the screen apart to clean inside and reassemble took about 2 hours. This was a delicate task, not for the fainthearted. The rest of the time was spent copying the clone to the new SSD. Here are my tips for this job. Wear a ground strap and DO NOT use a vacuum to clean the inside, they can produce a ton of static electricity. Use compressed air. Make sure your wife is not watching when you blow the dust all over the house, I learned that one the hard way. And don't force anything just take your time.
Thank you SO much, and I¡¯m happy it turned out well. The grounding strap is something I¡¯ve wondered about, because I¡¯ve watched a bunch of OWC and iFixIt and other independent videos, and none of the people doing the disassembly/reassembly seem to be wearing them. Back in the days of the cute little box 128 K Mac, there could have been several thousand volts on the back end of the CRT for people who ventured inside, and there was no space to do what we could without being quite close to that gun. My understanding is that the threat to US is when working around the power supply, but the threat to the iMac itself is always there.
I¡¯m following a discussion on Macintouch focused on what mods add the biggest boost to the iMac, and I¡¯ll probably get going once that discussion is over.
Thanks again, Jim Robertson
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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 09:15 AM, jimrobertson wrote:
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Still sitting on the fence regarding doing major surgery on my 2017 21.5¡± 4K iMac, I was all prepared to ask David to post after he¡¯d done the exenteration (that, for a surgeon, basically means removing most of the internal abdominal organs) and the facial surgery (removing and replacing the screen). Then I consulted MacTracker and discovered that back in 2011, Apple seemed to understand that mere mortals might want to work inside their machines, and actually DID supply an access door on them to replace the RAM with higher density modules.
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But then I re-read David Myers initial post and realizes he wants to replace the drive and clean the inside of the screen as well. So, David, I¡¯d be very grateful for a postoperative report, estimating:
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- How long it took, start to finish
- How many times you walked away from the table, cursing
- If there was any step you performed that made you think you¡¯d killed the computer, only to discover that you¡¯d actually done it successfully.
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I am happy to report that the operation was a complete susses. The mew SSD arrived yesterday and I started the task today around 3 PM and finished around 9 PM. To take apart and clean inside and replace the hard drive took about 1hour. To take the screen apart to clean inside and reassemble took about 2 hours. This was a delicate task, not for the fainthearted. The rest of the time was spent copying the clone to the new SSD. Here are my tips for this job. Wear a ground strap and DO NOT use a vacuum to clean the inside, they can produce a ton of static electricity. Use compressed air. Make sure your wife is not watching when you blow the dust all over the house, I learned that one the hard way. And don't force anything just take your time.
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
Jim wrote:
The action of that key improved with whatever the Genius Bar wizard did in the back room, but it¡¯s beome less responsive again in the past few weeks, and of course now I¡¯m almost 200 miles distant from an Apple Retail Store.
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I¡¯m of a mind to call Apple telephone support and describe my tale of woe about the keyboard, but I fear they¡¯ll agree to examine the computer, send me a box, then contact me in a few days and tell me they¡¯ve levied a charge of a few hundred dollars to diagnose the issue, that they blame the recalcitrant ¡°period¡± key¡¯s sluggishness on the liquid spill, and need to charge me another $1500 for repairs.
If I had your situation I'd check out Louis Rossman's service at as he is very good and will not rip you off. JC
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
And how was that helpful, Brent?
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On Nov 1, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Brent via Groups.Io < whodo678@...> wrote:
Let me reply with two stories.
The first, some medical cures were not as safe as once thought. They used to "cure" syphilis. They used to have the patient swallow mercury. It was "safe" because it did not kill the patient immediately. And another "cure" for ailments was leeches. (Using an automotive contact cleaner, could be removing the conductive ink used to print the circuit in the key switch, or ineffective on the sugar from the spill.)
The other is a joke. Doc, it hurts when I do this. Well, don't do that. (Problem can't be found in the file structures, after the heating problem goes away, because there is no software damage.)
We are sorry you lost a lot of stuff in the fire, but let it go.
On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:36 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote: If that¡¯s the issue, though, is it likely what I experienced might be the result? Again, when I pulled the Mac from its carrying case, it was at the ¡°your mac has restarted because of a problem¡± screen, and it was not warm, and the battery hadn¡¯t drained. Moreover, it kept restarting within a minute or two intentional reboots, and none of this was accompanied by any signs of the computer overheating. Disk Utility (when I examined the computer from the recovery partition) reported some problem with the pre-boot blocks of my encrypted SSD, and after I unlocked the encrypted boot partition to run the ¡°repair¡± module of DU, ?on all partitions, the problem has not recurred (even though Disk Utility did not report that it had done any repairs).
I was required to enter my admin PW before Disk Utility could examine the SSD. DU reports now that the main bootable partition remains encrypted, which is what I¡¯d expect.
Maybe it¡¯s an oddity that will remain unexplained.
I do have another issue with this laptop. I¡¯ve had keyboard issues for at least the past two years. I did spill some liquid onto the case before this started, but that was confined to the upper left corner of teh keyboard, and affected primarily the backslash and bracket (angle and squiggly) keys. We cleaned the keyboard with compressed air and application of an electronics cleaner that my son had used on many occasions to revive Windows keyboards at the auto parts store where he worked, and where the keyboards generally looked as thought they¡¯d been painted with used motor oil. The stuff worked, but a year later the ">/.¡± key became less responsive. In the interim Apple had issued its service bulletin for all MacBook Pro keyboards beginning with 2015 However, when i took the computer to my local Apple retail store, they discovered traces of the original liquid spill, and that terminated all discussions, even though the only misbehaving key was now the period.
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
Let me reply with two stories.
The first, some medical cures were not as safe as once thought. They used to "cure" syphilis. They used to have the patient swallow mercury. It was "safe" because it did not kill the patient immediately. And another "cure" for ailments was leeches. (Using an automotive contact cleaner, could be removing the conductive ink used to print the circuit in the key switch, or ineffective on the sugar from the spill.)
The other is a joke. Doc, it hurts when I do this. Well, don't do that. (Problem can't be found in the file structures, after the heating problem goes away, because there is no software damage.)
We are sorry you lost a lot of stuff in the fire, but let it go.
On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:36 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote: If that¡¯s the issue, though, is it likely what I experienced might be the result? Again, when I pulled the Mac from its carrying case, it was at the ¡°your mac has restarted because of a problem¡± screen, and it was not warm, and the battery hadn¡¯t drained. Moreover, it kept restarting within a minute or two intentional reboots, and none of this was accompanied by any signs of the computer overheating. Disk Utility (when I examined the computer from the recovery partition) reported some problem with the pre-boot blocks of my encrypted SSD, and after I unlocked the encrypted boot partition to run the ¡°repair¡± module of DU, ?on all partitions, the problem has not recurred (even though Disk Utility did not report that it had done any repairs).
I was required to enter my admin PW before Disk Utility could examine the SSD. DU reports now that the main bootable partition remains encrypted, which is what I¡¯d expect.
Maybe it¡¯s an oddity that will remain unexplained.
I do have another issue with this laptop. I¡¯ve had keyboard issues for at least the past two years. I did spill some liquid onto the case before this started, but that was confined to the upper left corner of teh keyboard, and affected primarily the backslash and bracket (angle and squiggly) keys. We cleaned the keyboard with compressed air and application of an electronics cleaner that my son had used on many occasions to revive Windows keyboards at the auto parts store where he worked, and where the keyboards generally looked as thought they¡¯d been painted with used motor oil. The stuff worked, but a year later the ">/.¡± key became less responsive. In the interim Apple had issued its service bulletin for all MacBook Pro keyboards beginning with 2015 However, when i took the computer to my local Apple retail store, they discovered traces of the original liquid spill, and that terminated all discussions, even though the only misbehaving key was now the period.
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Re: it¡¯s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
And have you got more available room?
On Nov 1, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Tom_Kirshbaum wrote: [Have you emptied your Trash?] Oh yes, several times. After I cleaned the caches, it took five hours to empty the trash. Now it's empty.
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Tim,
I debated whether to reply to the list or you privately.
The vast majority of members have no voiced opinion on images in signatures. Let it die.
Like top or bottom posting, the owner, admins and mods have the last word, and the owner has said he is monitoring the thread. I take that is he currently doesn't care, in fact he had made a suggestion on how to minimize the data hit the group takes if included. Drop it.
Like the use of Activity Monitor, iState, whether you read posts by email, digest or web, or by thread or chronologically, these issues are not set by the group, but by each of us.
Please let this die.
Brent
On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:29 PM, timmeidroth wrote: my approval is so vigorous i think it can be counted as double! On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 1:33 PM Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm= [email protected]> wrote: No, we ALL are NOT annoyed.? It appears that three folks are annoyed and causing all the bickering.? If the moderators agree that it is ok for the picture, then it is ok.? Either ignore or remove the picture if you want.? There have been two or three folks that have expressed approval.? ?
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Howdy. Yes, you can do the Apple Logo with an iOS device but you have to set it up first in Settings. ? Copy the above Apple logo character. On iOS, open Settings>General>Keyboards>Text Replacement Press the + and create a new shortcut. Paste the Apple Log in the Phrase box. Make a Shortcut in the shortcut box. For example, something short, easy to remember, and it doesn't conflict with some other shortcut. apl perhaps. Then you can do ?Watch, ?Pay, etc. Denver Dan On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 18:42:14 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote: Is there a way in ipados/ios?
Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!
On Nov 1, 2019, at 16:44, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
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This is a text character just like a letter a or b.
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Tim, each Mac has a different answer. I have kept Activity Monitor's CPU History open in the bottom left corner of all my Macs for about the last 20 years. Then things start to slow or freeze, my ey glances down there, and I see a lot of red. To figure out what is causing that, I open the main window.?
I also keep Hardware Monitor, and app like iStat, but older, open since heat is often an issue with laptops.
Brent
MacBook Pro,?15",?early 2008, OS X 10.7.5 iPhone 4S, iOS 9.3.6 iPad 3rd gen, iOS 9.3.5
On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:19 AM, timmeidroth wrote: in activity monitor what percentage of cpu is a red flag? sometimes i see 3% and wonder if that's a problem...i'm guessing it's not.
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Re: it¡¯s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
Why?
It is probably the quickest way to ensure that the problem is resolved. And time is money.
While you can work through a resolution of the problem, it can take a lot more time and never guarantee that the problem is resolved.
And you would probably also suggest to the client to increase the size of his SSD during the procedure.
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funniest thing i've ever read in this group! ?Both upper-level AppleCare specialists I spoke with told me the only solution would be to do a clean install and bring everything over one item at a time. I'd rather eat worms.
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Re: autotext in Office 365-Mac Word2016
note without experience? using? ms office on mac , can provide the following
you may want to check the following settings:
language is english , you would see that by the keyboard settings mine show a flag next to time on top menu bar
also click on? the text? and set? your smart quote settings. there is also dictation, you may need a microphone/headset for at although see blue tooth settings.
you'll want to check you have dictionary downloaded and english.
You can try open or libra office to see you have the same issue
is it only word or same issue with excel and powerpoint?
In the mean time you may want to type your text where you have text such as email browser , or evernote before pasting to word
You mention template are you did you check your template stored and reload/import them?
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On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 07:28 AM, julie wrote:
Hi again, I posted this back on 20 October and haven¡¯t seen any responses to my query.
I¡¯m wondering... is it inappropriate to post this here or is it just that there is no one here who has experience of this?
Thanks
Julie
I seem to have lost (or lost access to) all my Autotext entries.
I¡¯ve Googled and haven¡¯t found any useful information so far.
I¡¯ve never had any trouble before, and I¡¯m not sure if this happened right after an update or before (I know this isn¡¯t very helpful).
They¡¯ve always worked no matter what template I'm using. I¡¯ve checked the keystroke I assigned and it¡¯s the same. I¡¯ve tried to find them using the pull-down menu and only the Word standard Autotext entries are visible.
I¡¯ve tried a few other tests and found a few random Autotext entries by trying different templates but none of these make any sense.
Does anyone have any clues, please? Where might I look? What might I try? I hope very much I don¡¯t have to recreate all these.
thanks
Julie
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
I'd be tempted to get a new one and use the apple trade in.
Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!
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On Nov 1, 2019, at 16:36, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I¡¯m of a mind to call Apple telephone support and describe my tale of woe about the keyboard, but I fear they¡¯ll agree to examine the computer, send me a box, then contact me in a few days and tell me they¡¯ve levied a charge of a few hundred dollars to diagnose the issue, that they blame the recalcitrant ¡°period¡± key¡¯s sluggishness on the liquid spill, and need to charge me another $1500 for repairs.
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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On Nov 1, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@...> wrote:
? Is there a way in ipados/ios? Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!On Nov 1, 2019, at 16:44, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
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This is a text character just like a letter a or b.
Type Option Shift k
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Is there a way in ipados/ios?
Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!
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On Nov 1, 2019, at 16:44, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
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This is a text character just like a letter a or b.
Type Option Shift k
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Re: autotext in Office 365-Mac Word2016
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
It is indeed Word for Mac 2016/Office 365 (see subject line). I haven¡¯t deleted any relevant files.
I think it¡¯s going to be Sunday morning at the earliest before I get a chance to explore and check out the suggestions I¡¯ve been given.
Julie
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David Myers
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