On Jan 11, 2024, at 1:42?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
How are they ¡° from outside my contacts list but clearly from people I know¡±? How would the phone, Apple or your provider recognize you know them, unless you put them in your contact?
Brent, you and I seem to have a unique ability to talk past each other rather than TO each other.
My assertion was that either Apple or my carrier have some means of identifying incoming calls either as spam or likely from forged numbers. How they make those inferences I do not know, but clearly the inferences are sometimes incorrect. I receive calls daily from commercial entities who are not in my contacts list. Most of the time, neither Apple or my carrier mistakenly use that absence to conclude that the calls are malevolent or from forged numbers. However, I also receive calls many days from parties whose numbers are not check marked as valid or ARE declared likely to be spam, when in fact they are not. My point (my only point) in recognizing this is that these instances would make it unwise for me to just route all calls declared ?¡°likely spam¡± or NOT marked as ¡°valid numbers¡± to my trash programmatically, because some of those attributions are incorrect.
landlines & POTS don¡¯t do VM (in general) unless you press an extra key during the phone menu. Nor do they accept text or iMessages. Use a number that ends up on a cell phone, not one wired to a wall.
I already stated much the same thing, adding that I don¡¯t know a way to store and transmit a voice message to incoming callers who don¡¯t identify themselves, and of course so far as I know there is NO way that I, as the recipient of an incoming call, can discern whether I should attempt to send a response via text to a cell phone or via voice to a wired POTS phone. My guess is that over the next year or two AI may provide carriers with increased ability to discern whether outgoing marketing calls do or do NOT provide the recipients inferential ability to detect whether a message identifying the caller is included AND whether the call originates from a source prepared to receive EITHER a text or spoken message reply, and if that occurs, then perhaps the percentage of such calls that can be trashed programmatically by the recipients could be increased.
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Jim Robertson
