The VPN Bypass doesn¡¯t work now. It did for a bit. I have sent a request to the developer for help.
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On May 19, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer via groups.io <hejb44@...> wrote:
Thanks Jonathan. I did find a solution - there is an option to select apps to select apps to bypass VPN. I put the Mail app in that list (it¡¯s the only one in the list) and that seems to do the trick. I plan to send a message to the developer to see if that¡¯s my only option.
How do I find a different smtp server???
Thanks.
On May 19, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
Oftentimes SMTP servers will block anything that smells a little fishy in an effort to slow the mass of spam taking over the world. It can¡¯t determine that your VPN is not hiding a spam monster, so it evidently blocks it.
You might try different SMTP servers. You don¡¯t have to use the SMTP server that matches your IMAP provider.
There might not be a good solution, but I would continue to research it with the VPN provider and maybe check their forums if they have one.
Jonathan
On May 19, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I am running Private Internet Access (PIA). Intermittently I have had problems sending email. It hangs out in the out box and keeps asking me to try a different server. When I checked the connection doctor the IMAP connection was just fine but the SMTP connection was not.
Usually when the problem occurred it would go away after a few minutes but yesterday it wouldn¡¯t go away. I contacted Apple Support and after an hour he could not find any solution. Then I told him about PIA and he said that¡¯s the issue - I turned PIA off and the connection to the SMTP server was made and the email sent.
Lee or anyone - do you have a solution to the problem.
Thanks.
Harry
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Thanks Jonathan. I did find a solution - there is an option to select apps to select apps to bypass VPN. I put the Mail app in that list (it¡¯s the only one in the list) and that seems to do the trick. I plan to send a message to the developer to see if that¡¯s my only option.
How do I find a different smtp server???
Thanks.
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On May 19, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
Oftentimes SMTP servers will block anything that smells a little fishy in an effort to slow the mass of spam taking over the world. It can¡¯t determine that your VPN is not hiding a spam monster, so it evidently blocks it.
You might try different SMTP servers. You don¡¯t have to use the SMTP server that matches your IMAP provider.
There might not be a good solution, but I would continue to research it with the VPN provider and maybe check their forums if they have one.
Jonathan
On May 19, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I am running Private Internet Access (PIA). Intermittently I have had problems sending email. It hangs out in the out box and keeps asking me to try a different server. When I checked the connection doctor the IMAP connection was just fine but the SMTP connection was not.
Usually when the problem occurred it would go away after a few minutes but yesterday it wouldn¡¯t go away. I contacted Apple Support and after an hour he could not find any solution. Then I told him about PIA and he said that¡¯s the issue - I turned PIA off and the connection to the SMTP server was made and the email sent.
Lee or anyone - do you have a solution to the problem.
Thanks.
Harry
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I called Apple support about this issue and the tech said I should get a new mouse. I was skeptical but agreed as long as I could return the mouse if the issue persisted. He said I would be able too. I bought a new Magic Mouse and after I started using it the problem has gone away. I never lose the mouse connection to my computer and I am able to have all my external drives connected. So whatever was interfering with the mouse signal to the computer has been ameliorated by the new modern mouse.
Life is good.
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On May 9, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer via groups.io <hejb44@...> wrote:
Well I have a Bluetooth problem I¡¯m hoping someone can help me with.
For several weeks now (perhaps months) my Bluetooth mouse (battery power) loses its connection to my circa 2012 iMac running catalina - but it¡¯s not an issue with catalina because it was happening (more frequently) with El Capitan before I upgraded to Catalina. It¡¯s not just my mouse. My wife has a similar mouse she used to use with her MacBook and the problem occurs when I use her mouse on my computer.
Sometimes the connection would quit and come back in a matter of seconds after clicking the mouse - other times the connection would not come back and I would walk away from the computer and come back 10 or 15 minutes later and the connection would be restored.
I took the computer to TechRestore and they kept it for several days and could not duplicate the problem. But they did not have my keyboard or any of the connected peripherals (see below).
When I got the computer back home and reconnected it I thought perhaps the Bluetooth on my other devices might be causing the problem so I turned Bluetooth off on my wife¡¯s MacBook, my iPad, and my iPhone. I also left my FitBit [yeah I know - please don¡¯t give me any grief over that :-) ]
in another room. Removing other Bluetooth devices has helped lessen the problem however it still occurs but not as often and the mouse always reconnects after a few seconds. (The only other bluetooth devices near the computer is my Apple Bluetooth keyboard which I cannot turn off an my hearing aides but they only use bluetooth to connect to the iPhone).
My next idea is to remove from my iMac my three external USB drives (two SSDs and one that¡¯s not SSD), my Satechie USB hub, my external monitor connected via Thunderbolt, and my external speakers which are plugged into the earphone jack on my iMac and see if the problem goes away. If it does then I will reconnect them one at a time to try and figure out if one or more of them could be causing the problem. What do you think of this idea?
So has anyone else had this problem. If so were you able to correct it? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I hope everyone is well and staying safe and sane during this crazy time we are living through.
Thanks
Harry
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Oftentimes SMTP servers will block anything that smells a little fishy in an effort to slow the mass of spam taking over the world. It can¡¯t determine that your VPN is not hiding a spam monster, so it evidently blocks it. You might try different SMTP servers. You don¡¯t have to use the SMTP server that matches your IMAP provider. There might not be a good solution, but I would continue to research it with the VPN provider and maybe check their forums if they have one. Jonathan On May 19, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I am running Private Internet Access (PIA). Intermittently I have had problems sending email. It hangs out in the out box and keeps asking me to try a different server. When I checked the connection doctor the IMAP connection was just fine but the SMTP connection was not.
Usually when the problem occurred it would go away after a few minutes but yesterday it wouldn¡¯t go away. I contacted Apple Support and after an hour he could not find any solution. Then I told him about PIA and he said that¡¯s the issue - I turned PIA off and the connection to the SMTP server was made and the email sent.
Lee or anyone - do you have a solution to the problem.
Thanks.
Harry
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I am running Private Internet Access (PIA). Intermittently I have had problems sending email. It hangs out in the out box and keeps asking me to try a different server. When I checked the connection doctor the IMAP connection was just fine but the SMTP connection was not.
Usually when the problem occurred it would go away after a few minutes but yesterday it wouldn¡¯t go away. I contacted Apple Support and after an hour he could not find any solution. Then I told him about PIA and he said that¡¯s the issue - I turned PIA off and the connection to the SMTP server was made and the email sent.
Lee or anyone - do you have a solution to the problem.
Thanks.
Harry
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Re: Any Apple Remote Desktop Users in the Group?
I only do screen share, Beth, so I can¡¯t address your other needs. Sorry. Jonathan On May 18, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Beth Phillips <beth.phillips@...> wrote:
Hi Johnathan,
I took a brief look at Screens website. I didn¡¯t see it listed, but does it allow you to send UNIX commands through it and install packages like you can through ARD? There are some files I routinely update and I also push out packages to all our computers to install various updates. There are other files that we change frequently and those always need special permissions set and I can do that by sending a UNIX command to the group after I push out the file. I can also schedule these installs to take place after-hours so I don¡¯t disrupt our workflow.
My only real complaint about ARD is since recently updating to version 3.9.3 on my laptop there is an annoying ¡°feature¡± that is not retaining the user names and passwords for the remote clients when ARD closes down. So just about any time I want to access a remote machine I have to first go edit the computer info and reenter the login info into ARD. Previous versions retained the password info for the clients once it was entered in the Get info window. It¡¯s not anything I can¡¯t workaround, but it is frustrating and I wondered if it was something in my setup, or if this is new behavior for ARD.
I may download a trial of Screens when I get a chance to play and see how it works. I¡¯ve also wanted to check out JAMF and our IT Dept is already using an Acronis product to manage iPads so that may be an option for the Macs too.
Thanks for the info!
Beth Phillips
Computer Support Specialist
PHONE | 800-626-6409 x8385
DIRECT | 502-222-8385
EMAIL | beth.phillips@...<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D>
WEBSITE | www.FastlineMediaGroup.com<>
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Re: Any Apple Remote Desktop Users in the Group?
Hi Johnathan,
I took a brief look at Screens website. I didn¡¯t see it listed, but does it allow you to send UNIX commands through it and install packages like you can through ARD? There are some files I routinely update and I also push out packages to all our computers to install various updates. There are other files that we change frequently and those always need special permissions set and I can do that by sending a UNIX command to the group after I push out the file. I can also schedule these installs to take place after-hours so I don¡¯t disrupt our workflow.
My only real complaint about ARD is since recently updating to version 3.9.3 on my laptop there is an annoying ¡°feature¡± that is not retaining the user names and passwords for the remote clients when ARD closes down. So just about any time I want to access a remote machine I have to first go edit the computer info and reenter the login info into ARD. Previous versions retained the password info for the clients once it was entered in the Get info window. It¡¯s not anything I can¡¯t workaround, but it is frustrating and I wondered if it was something in my setup, or if this is new behavior for ARD.
I may download a trial of Screens when I get a chance to play and see how it works. I¡¯ve also wanted to check out JAMF and our IT Dept is already using an Acronis product to manage iPads so that may be an option for the Macs too.
Thanks for the info!
Beth Phillips
Computer Support Specialist
PHONE | 800-626-6409 x8385
DIRECT | 502-222-8385
EMAIL | beth.phillips@...<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D>
WEBSITE | www.FastlineMediaGroup.com<>
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
I loved my 6502!
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
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On May 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, tom guenthner < tguenthner@...> wrote: No, there was two modems and two phone lines.?We had great fun¡
If I recall correctly, the original BBS was started by Bill Baker, running out of his house. It was run on an Apple //e with 64KB of RAM and a HUGE platter drive where each platter held two or three MB. Eventually, I think it was moved to Tom¡¯s basement.
What I remember best about it was the janky software, GBBS. It was written in a mix of some AppleSoft BASIC along with mostly 6502 assembly language. There were some real fights with that software.
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On May 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, tom guenthner < tguenthner@...> wrote: No, there was two modems and two phone lines.?We had great fun¡
If I recall correctly, the original BBS was started by Bill Baker, running out of his house. It was run on an Apple //e with 64KB of RAM and a HUGE platter drive where each platter held two or three MB. Eventually, I think it was moved to Tom¡¯s basement.
What I remember best about it was the janky software, GBBS. It was written in a mix of some AppleSoft BASIC along with mostly 6502 assembly language. There were some real fights with that software.
L^2
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
Tom,
I don¡¯t think I ever met Bill Baker.
I worked with Paul Geralds wife, Judy?, at Southern Middle School back in the ¡®80s. I think Paul died early on.
I think I met Robert Klein, but don¡¯t remember anything about him.
On May 17, 2020, at 10:41 AM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Harry, you bring back many memories and names. I don¡¯t know what Bill Baker is doing today. Do you?
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Jonathan,
Here is a little more info - written by Tom earlier this century.
Back then programs for the Apple were copy protected. Tom and a few other LAUG members, inclucding Lee Larson,?and policeman Bill Baker, were interested in seeing how those programs worked and to do that they had to ¡°uncopy?protect¡± them.
And around 1981-82, the Skeleton Keys were born. To share their work and and their knowledge of the Apple computer?the Skeleton Keys operated two bulletin board systems (BBS): the Precinct and the Fifth Precinct. Tom operated one?and Bill Baker the other. ¡°At that time only way to get into the bulletin board was by the phone line and only one person?at a time on the bulletin board, so that's why we had two of them.¡±
The Skeleton Keys and LAUG went their separate ways for a while but around 1983, through the efforts of LAUG's?Robert Klein and Paul Geralds, and Lee Larson and Tom, the two groups merged and Tom became president.
I guess I was mistaken about two modems.
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Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
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502.417.4885
On May 16, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
What was that, Tom and Harry?
On May 16, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
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Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
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On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it?to play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law?and I have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember?the 80 column card.?
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
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502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
https://www.charlieharrington.com/my-new-old-apple-iie-computer
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
Harry, you bring back many memories and names. I don¡¯t know what Bill Baker is doing today. Do you?
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
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On May 16, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer < hejb44@...> wrote:
Jonathan,
Here is a little more info - written by Tom earlier this century.
Back then?programs for the Apple were copy protected. Tom and a few other LAUG?members, inclucding Lee Larson, and policeman Bill Baker, were?interested in?seeing how those programs worked and to do that they?had to ¡°uncopy protect¡± them.
And around?1981-82, the?Skeleton Keys?were born. To share their work and?and their knowledge of the Apple computer the Skeleton Keys operated?two?bulletin?board systems?(BBS): the?Precinct?and the?Fifth?Precinct. Tom operated one and Bill Baker the other. ¡°At that?time only way to get into the bulletin board was by the?phone line?and only one person at a time on the bulletin board, so that's why we?had two of them.¡±
The Skeleton?Keys and LAUG went their separate ways for a while but around 1983,?through the efforts of LAUG's Robert Klein and Paul Geralds, and Lee?Larson?and Tom, the two groups merged and Tom became president.
I guess I was mistaken about two modems.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>Harry Harry Jacobson-Beyer hejb44@...502.417.4885 On May 16, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
What was that, Tom and Harry?
On May 16, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
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Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
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On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it to?play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I?have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember?the 80 column card.?
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
https://www.charlieharrington.com/my-new-old-apple-iie-computer
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
No, there was two modems and two phone lines.? We had great fun¡
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
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On May 16, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer < hejb44@...> wrote:
Jonathan,
Here is a little more info - written by Tom earlier this century.
Back then?programs for the Apple were copy protected. Tom and a few other LAUG?members, inclucding Lee Larson, and policeman Bill Baker, were?interested in?seeing how those programs worked and to do that they?had to ¡°uncopy protect¡± them.
And around?1981-82, the?Skeleton Keys?were born. To share their work and?and their knowledge of the Apple computer the Skeleton Keys operated?two?bulletin?board systems?(BBS): the?Precinct?and the?Fifth?Precinct. Tom operated one and Bill Baker the other. ¡°At that?time only way to get into the bulletin board was by the?phone line?and only one person at a time on the bulletin board, so that's why we?had two of them.¡±
The Skeleton?Keys and LAUG went their separate ways for a while but around 1983,?through the efforts of LAUG's Robert Klein and Paul Geralds, and Lee?Larson?and Tom, the two groups merged and Tom became president.
I guess I was mistaken about two modems.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>Harry Harry Jacobson-Beyer hejb44@...502.417.4885 On May 16, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
What was that, Tom and Harry?
On May 16, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it to?play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I?have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember?the 80 column card.?
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
Cool, Harry. Hey, I remember Robert Klein. He helped us set up the Electronic Publishing Society group in ¡¯89 or so. Wow, how the world has changed. I was a Mac snob back then (well, ok, I still am), so I never really appreciated the truly wondrous thing that the Apple II was to those REALLY early adopters. It¡¯s nice to have guys like you and Tom to set us straight. ::-) Jonathan On May 16, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Jonathan,
Here is a little more info - written by Tom earlier this century.
Back then programs for the Apple were copy protected. Tom and a few other LAUG members, inclucding Lee Larson, and policeman Bill Baker, were interested in seeing how those programs worked and to do that they had to ¡°uncopy protect¡± them.
And around 1981-82, the Skeleton Keys were born. To share their work and and their knowledge of the Apple computer the Skeleton Keys operated two bulletin board systems (BBS): the Precinct and the Fifth Precinct. Tom operated one and Bill Baker the other. ¡°At that time only way to get into the bulletin board was by the phone line and only one person at a time on the bulletin board, so that's why we had two of them.¡±
The Skeleton Keys and LAUG went their separate ways for a while but around 1983, through the efforts of LAUG's Robert Klein and Paul Geralds, and Lee Larson and Tom, the two groups merged and Tom became president.
I guess I was mistaken about two modems.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 16, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
What was that, Tom and Harry?
On May 16, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it to play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember the 80 column card.
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
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Re: Louisvill Apple User Group Newsletter
I, too, have fond memories of the Apple IIe. I automated a 6,000 volume library on the fly with a IIe and two floppy drives. Good times! Exciting times, for sure.?
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On May 16, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
? I was editor of the User Group¡¯s newsletter for a few years. I have pdf copies of the newsletter from 2000 - 2008. If there is interest I could either post them on my personal web page and send a link or I could just mail an issue, once a week or twice a month or once a month. Let me know if there is interest.
It might be a walk down memory lane for some of you.?
I was glancing through them and saw names of folks I haven¡¯t heard from or seen in years.?
Let me know. <harry-mail-signatures.jpg> Harry Harry Jacobson-Beyer hejb44@...502.417.4885
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Louisvill Apple User Group Newsletter
I was editor of the User Group¡¯s newsletter for a few years. I have pdf copies of the newsletter from 2000 - 2008. If there is interest I could either post them on my personal web page and send a link or I could just mail an issue, once a week or twice a month or once a month. Let me know if there is interest.
It might be a walk down memory lane for some of you.?
I was glancing through them and saw names of folks I haven¡¯t heard from or seen in years.?
Let me know.
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
Jonathan,
Here is a little more info - written by Tom earlier this century.
Back then?programs for the Apple were copy protected. Tom and a few other LAUG?members, inclucding Lee Larson, and policeman Bill Baker, were?interested in?seeing how those programs worked and to do that they?had to ¡°uncopy protect¡± them.
And around?1981-82, the?Skeleton Keys?were born. To share their work and?and their knowledge of the Apple computer the Skeleton Keys operated?two?bulletin?board systems?(BBS): the?Precinct?and the?Fifth?Precinct. Tom operated one and Bill Baker the other. ¡°At that?time only way to get into the bulletin board was by the?phone line?and only one person at a time on the bulletin board, so that's why we?had two of them.¡±
The Skeleton?Keys and LAUG went their separate ways for a while but around 1983,?through the efforts of LAUG's Robert Klein and Paul Geralds, and Lee?Larson?and Tom, the two groups merged and Tom became president.
I guess I was mistaken about two modems.
On May 16, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
What was that, Tom and Harry?
On May 16, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
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Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
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On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it to?play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I?have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember?the 80 column card.?
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
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Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
https://www.charlieharrington.com/my-new-old-apple-iie-computer
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
Jonathan,
The 5th precinct was an electronic bulletin board run by Tom for the local Apple user group. It was free to join and Tom ran it on an Apple //e in his basement. Users dialed in from their computer and had to log in. I believe he had two modem cards in the //e so two people could be on it at once. It had a menu of several options one of which you could ask for help with your computer. I think there was a gaming menu with tips and hacks. When others logged in they could see your posts and respond and help.
I met Tom through the bulletin board and Lee Larson too. ?Tom upgraded my computer for me and was able to get me some peripherals inexpensively. He had a great setup in his basement.?
It was many years ago. And I remember it fondly.
On May 16, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
What was that, Tom and Harry?
On May 16, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it to?play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I?have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember?the 80 column card.?
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
https://www.charlieharrington.com/my-new-old-apple-iie-computer
--
Jonathan Fletcher
Workplace Innovation Facilitator
jonathan@...
Kentuckiana FileMaker Developers Group ?? ?Next Meeting: 5/26/20
We¡¯ve gone online! ?? ?Register at?kyfmp.com/reg/?for a link
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
What was that, Tom and Harry? On May 16, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it to play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember the 80 column card.
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
-- Jonathan Fletcher Workplace Innovation Facilitator jonathan@... Kentuckiana FileMaker Developers Group ? Next Meeting: 5/26/20 We¡¯ve gone online! ? Register at kyfmp.com/reg/ for a link
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
I do. I used to login to it frequently.
On May 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, tom guenthner <tguenthner@...> wrote:
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,
Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on?that machine and I wish I still had it to play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too?long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember?what they were. I also don¡¯t remember the 80 column card.?
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac.
And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a?response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>
Harry
Harry Jacobson-Beyer
hejb44@...
502.417.4885
On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
https://www.charlieharrington.com/my-new-old-apple-iie-computer
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Re: My New Old Apple IIe Computer
Remember the 5th Precinct? It was run on Apple //e. I still have it.
Tom Guenthner
Louisville, Ky
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On May 16, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer < hejb44@...> wrote:
Ed,Thanks for this.
I miss my Apple //e. I learned to program in basic and it was so much fun. I stayed up well into the night writing code on that machine and I wish I still had it to play with. When I got my first Mac my wife, who never lets me keep anything too long if I¡¯m not using it made me get rid of it. I gave it to my brother-in-law and I have no idea if he still has it. I suspect not.
In addition to a modem card and a printer card I had two 3.5 disc drives. I think I had other cards but don¡¯t remember what they were. I also don¡¯t remember the 80 column card.?
For many years I felt Appleworks on the //e was better than on the Mac. And remember the computer message boards? You would post a message and come back a few hours later and find a response. How exciting that was.
<harry-mail-signatures.jpg>Harry Harry Jacobson-Beyer hejb44@...502.417.4885 On May 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
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