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JPD Borgna wrote:

yajeed2000 wrote:

  

Has any one made a board with this and solder it right???? please! if not, i have to call my manufacturer right now to
stop the making of my board!

Saludos, Juan Pablo.

Hi,
I forgot to mention that I'm using a 20x Binocular microscope to check 
the alignment of the pins,if that makes any difference.

David. 

 

    

Well, the pins are not perfect (all in the center of the pad) but all of 
them appear to be good.
The poscript you send is a file->print or its a plot printed?

Saludos, Juan Pablo.

  

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I'm just using the file -> plot dialogue using the windows version of
kicad.I will try to print it out using Linux over the weekend, to see
if it makes any difference.
--- In kicad-users@..., JPD Borgna <jpborgna@i...> wrote:

yajeed2000 wrote:

Hi,
I forgot to mention that I'm using a 20x Binocular microscope to

check

the alignment of the pins,if that makes any difference.

David.

Well, the pins are not perfect (all in the center of the pad) but

all of

them appear to be good.
The poscript you send is a file->print or its a plot printed?

Saludos, Juan Pablo.

--
Juan Pablo Daniel Borgna -- Técnico Electrónico
INTI-Electrónica e Informática
Dirección: Avenida General Paz 5445 entre Albarellos y

Constituyentes

CC157 (CP B1650KNA) San Martín, Bs. As., Argentina TE:+(5411)4724-

6200

yajeed2000 wrote:

Hi,
I forgot to mention that I'm using a 20x Binocular microscope to check the alignment of the pins,if that makes any difference.

David.

Well, the pins are not perfect (all in the center of the pad) but all of them appear to be good.
The poscript you send is a file->print or its a plot printed?

Saludos, Juan Pablo.

--
Juan Pablo Daniel Borgna -- Tcnico Electrnico
INTI-Electrnica e Informtica
Direccin: Avenida General Paz 5445 entre Albarellos y Constituyentes
CC157 (CP B1650KNA) San Martn, Bs. As., Argentina TE:+(5411)4724-6200

Hi,
I forgot to mention that I'm using a 20x Binocular microscope to check
the alignment of the pins,if that makes any difference.

David.

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yajeed2000 wrote:

Hi,
I've uploaded it to the test print plot folder.
I've been using Ghostview to veiw and print the files to a HP laserjet
colour printer (a new one at work, so its not worn out).
Can people please try this file and let me know if it has the same 
problem.

  

Hi there!
Ive printed it with a lexmark laser printer using linux and ghostview and put my spartan2-pq208 on top of the printed page and (with a
magnifiying glass) saw that the pads are OK!

Im interesed in this tests too because ive just send my board (wich uses? this) to the factory for made some
prototypes. If any one else can test them, please!!

Saludos, Juan Pablo.

Thanks,

David.
--- In kicad-users@..., Ian bell  wrote:
  

yajeed2000 wrote:
    

Hi,
I am trying to print out several square 28 x 28 208 pin quad flat 
packages using a standard laser printer.
However when printed the pads do not line correctly with actual 
component pins.There is a small error in the spacing of the pins 
      

that 
  

is caused either by the printer (paper stretch)or in Kicad.
It would be useful if some kind of VERY SMALL offset adjustment 
      

(X and 
  

Y direction)could be introduced in the print dialog.
Alternatively could anyone suggest a way of correcting this error.
Thanks.

David

      

Could you post a copy of one that has this problem to the files 
section of the group? That way others can try rpinting it see if it 
    

is 
  

just a problem at your end or a general Kicad problem.

Ian
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CC157 (CP B1650KNA) San Martín, Bs. As., Argentina TE:+(5411)4724-6200

Hi,
I've uploaded it to the test print plot folder.
I've been using Ghostview to veiw and print the files to a HP laserjet
colour printer (a new one at work, so its not worn out).
Can people please try this file and let me know if it has the same
problem.

Thanks,

David.
--- In kicad-users@..., Ian bell <ianbell@u...> wrote:

yajeed2000 wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to print out several square 28 x 28 208 pin quad flat
packages using a standard laser printer.
However when printed the pads do not line correctly with actual
component pins.There is a small error in the spacing of the pins

that

is caused either by the printer (paper stretch)or in Kicad.
It would be useful if some kind of VERY SMALL offset adjustment

(X and

Y direction)could be introduced in the print dialog.
Alternatively could anyone suggest a way of correcting this error.
Thanks.

David

Could you post a copy of one that has this problem to the files
section of the group? That way others can try rpinting it see if it

is

just a problem at your end or a general Kicad problem.

Ian
--
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aka RuffRecords
aka RedTommo
www.geocities.com/ruffrecords

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yajeed2000 wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to print out several square 28 x 28 208 pin quad flat packages using a standard laser printer.
However when printed the pads do not line correctly with actual component pins.There is a small error in the spacing of the pins that is caused either by the printer (paper stretch)or in Kicad.
It would be useful if some kind of VERY SMALL offset adjustment (X and Y direction)could be introduced in the print dialog.
Alternatively could anyone suggest a way of correcting this error.
Thanks.
David

Could you post a copy of one that has this problem to the files section of the group? That way others can try rpinting it see if it is just a problem at your end or a general Kicad problem.

Ian
--
Ian T-Bell
aka RuffRecords
aka RedTommo
www.geocities.com/ruffrecords

Hi,
I am trying to print out several square 28 x 28 208 pin quad flat
packages using a standard laser printer.
However when printed the pads do not line correctly with actual
component pins.There is a small error in the spacing of the pins that
is caused either by the printer (paper stretch)or in Kicad.
It would be useful if some kind of VERY SMALL offset adjustment (X and
Y direction)could be introduced in the print dialog.
Alternatively could anyone suggest a way of correcting this error.
Thanks.

David

hi list,

has someone a library with the MSP430x14x microcontroller? Or the
module 64-Pin Quad Flat Pack (QFP)?

thanks, bye

fernando

Hi,

1st - Select the option 'Add wire or via'
2nd - Go to the place of the zone where you want to put de via. Left
click.
3rd - Without moving the mouse, right click and select 'Add via'
4th - Without moving the mouse, right click again and select 'End of
wire'. Then you have the via...

I've made a translation from Spanish of the options. Maybe in
English version are different....

bye



--- In kicad-users@..., Pedro Martín del Valle
<pmartin@p...> wrote:

Hi list,

I am trying to connect 2 GND-zones, one on the components layer and

the other

one on the copper layer, using vias.

Can anyone tell me how to put this vias?

Is there a way to attach a zone with a net?

thank you,

Pedro.

Thanks to everyone who has asked my question.

I had missed to click with the left button on the zone before clicking with
the rigth button to add the via.

Pedro.

hmistry494 wrote:

Hello guys i am an Orcad 386 plus user and i am experimenting with
Kicad. I would like some help with the BOM generated by Kicad.
I would like to know if it is possible to include other fields in my
BOM as well as the 2 default referance and value.
Thanks in advance
Harish Mistry

AFAIK this is not possible at present. You can add values in additional fields of a component such as price or part number but I don not think it is possible yet to select these into the BOM.

Ian

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JPD Borgna wrote:

To attach the zone to a net, you have to first highlight the net with "Resaltar Red", then create the zone.

It would be good to have the posibility, but dont know if that is right at the design of a pcb (to put thermals in a thruhole).

you are right, I wasn't thinking. I actually did have the zone connected to ground. that is why it worked in the end. But, DRC does not recognize the connections unless an actual trace starts from each ground pad, and ends at another. To clarify, a picture of the board is here:



I wanted thermals on the vias because it is a pain to solder (if you don't have soldermask). You can see there, that ground pads of each module have thermals, but the vias do not. My professor actually commented on my lack of thermals on the vias.

-ryan

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ryan williams wrote:

Pedro Martn del Valle wrote:
  

I am trying to connect 2 GND-zones, one on the components layer and the other 
one on the copper layer, using vias.

Can anyone tell me how to put this vias?

Is there a way to attach a zone with a net?
    

To attach the zone to a net, you have to first highlight the net with "Resaltar Red", then create the zone.

I'm not sure if there is a good way to do it. I just built a board that 
needed this. I ended up drawing actual traces between all of the 
grounds. When the board is actually made, you can't tell the difference. 
  

I did the same thing. I been told that in some commercial programs you have to do the same. Dont know.

if you are willing to accept many DRC errors, then you could just draw a 
few small traces of the ground pads and add VIAs.

I would suggest that a "connect to net" box be added to the zone file 
dialog, and the fill zones should be a part of the DRC. Another problem 
I have is the inability to use thermals around the vias on the ground plane.

  

It would be good to have the posibility, but dont know if that is right at the design of a pcb (to put thermals in a thruhole).

Saludos, Juan Pablo.

-ryan



  

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hi...

thanks Manuel, and sorry again


fernando




--- In kicad-users@..., Manuel Jimenez <pafbat00@y...> wrote:

TRANSLATION:

Tonamiben wrote:

fluissman wrote:

Hola Pedro,

(Pafbat did translate)
Hi Peter,

cuando colocas la via con la opcion 'A?adir pista o via', le das

a la

when you put the via with 'Add wire or via' option, right click

tecla derecha del raton y una de las opciones es 'Seleccionar par de

and select 'Select couple of layers

capas para las vias'. Precisamente te da a escoger la de

componentes y

for vias'. It offers you the posibility of taking the components one

la de cobre... espero que sea esto lo que preguntas...

and the copper oner... I hope this was what you asked...

un saludo.... por cierto, la traduccion esta de PM...

Sorry for all the rest... but my English is not very good...

My english is not very good too, but it would be very interresting to
see what you reply and what was the solution you propose.

Benoit



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Pedro Martn del Valle wrote:

I am trying to connect 2 GND-zones, one on the components layer and the other one on the copper layer, using vias.
Can anyone tell me how to put this vias?
Is there a way to attach a zone with a net?

I'm not sure if there is a good way to do it. I just built a board that needed this. I ended up drawing actual traces between all of the grounds. When the board is actually made, you can't tell the difference. if you are willing to accept many DRC errors, then you could just draw a few small traces of the ground pads and add VIAs.

I would suggest that a "connect to net" box be added to the zone file dialog, and the fill zones should be a part of the DRC. Another problem I have is the inability to use thermals around the vias on the ground plane.

-ryan

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TRANSLATION:

Tonamiben wrote:

fluissman wrote:

>
> Hola Pedro,

(Pafbat did translate)
Hi Peter,

>
> cuando colocas la via con la opcion 'A?adir pista o via', le das a la

when you put the via with 'Add wire or via' option, right click

> tecla derecha del raton y una de las opciones es 'Seleccionar par de

and select 'Select couple of layers

> capas para las vias'. Precisamente te da a escoger la de componentes y

for vias'. It offers you the posibility of taking the components one

> la de cobre... espero que sea esto lo que preguntas...

and the copper oner... I hope this was what you asked...

>
> un saludo.... por cierto, la traduccion esta de PM...
>
> Sorry for all the rest... but my English is not very good...

My english is not very good too, but it would be very interresting to
see what you reply and what was the solution you propose.

Benoit

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fluissman wrote:

Hola Pedro,

cuando colocas la via con la opcion 'Aadir pista o via', le das a la
tecla derecha del raton y una de las opciones es 'Seleccionar par de
capas para las vias'. Precisamente te da a escoger la de componentes y
la de cobre... espero que sea esto lo que preguntas...

un saludo.... por cierto, la traduccion esta de PM...

Sorry for all the rest... but my English is not very good...

My english is not very good too, but it would be very interresting to see what you reply and what was the solution you propose.

Benoit

Hola Pedro,

cuando colocas la via con la opcion 'A?adir pista o via', le das a la
tecla derecha del raton y una de las opciones es 'Seleccionar par de
capas para las vias'. Precisamente te da a escoger la de componentes y
la de cobre... espero que sea esto lo que preguntas...

un saludo.... por cierto, la traduccion esta de PM...

Sorry for all the rest... but my English is not very good...

bye


Fernando


--- In kicad-users@..., Pedro Martín del Valle
<pmartin@p...> wrote:

Hi list,

I am trying to connect 2 GND-zones, one on the components layer and

the other

one on the copper layer, using vias.

Can anyone tell me how to put this vias?

Is there a way to attach a zone with a net?

thank you,

Pedro.