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Re: VM/370 CE - DMKBOX

 

I'm a bit lost here. Anyway, there is a DMKBOX ASSEMBLE on disk F and vmfasm - assuming that this is the program or exec to call - gives me an error that some CNTRL file is not found.?

so
VMSETUP CP
VMFASM DMKBOX ASSEMBLE?

yields?
vmfasm dmkbox assemble f
File 'ASSEMBLE CNTRL *' not found.
*** ASSEMBLE CNTRL NOT FOUND ***
Ready(00002); T=0.01/0.01 15:06:45

regards
Michael


Re: VM/370 CE - DMKBOX

 

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You should not alter existing updates.

Create a new one

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Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Grom
Sent: 09 March 2022 13:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] VM/370 CE - DMKBOX

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Hi Dave,
executed VMSETUP CP as MAINT - seem to have aggravated the problem. Was able to call DMKBOX HRC370DK into the ee editor and upon saving it complained about an error and left the file DMKBOX EE$TMP. The original file seems to be gone, however, the content being in that ee$tmp file.

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rename dmkbox ee$tmp a dmkbox hrc370dk a
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:38:34
vmsetup cp
E (594) R/O
F (094) R/O
G (194) R/O
H (294) R/O
I (394) R/O
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:38:43
vmfasm dmkbox hrc370dk
File 'HRC370DK CNTRL *' not found.
*** HRC370DK CNTRL NOT FOUND ***
Ready(00002); T=0.01/0.01 13:38:57

My apologies the instructions have been taken from Gerard's web site who is sub-hosting Ren¨¦ Ferland's web space.

The version of the system:

q cplevel
SYSTEM 4381-A
VM/370 Community Edition Version? 1 Release? 1.1 05/02/21 12:49:03
IPL at 21:59:37 GMT SATURDAY 03/05/22
PEAK LOAD= 007 USERS
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:46:47

Kind regards

Michael


Re: VM/370 CE - DMKBOX

 

Hi Dave,
executed VMSETUP CP as MAINT - seem to have aggravated the problem. Was able to call DMKBOX HRC370DK into the ee editor and upon saving it complained about an error and left the file DMKBOX EE$TMP. The original file seems to be gone, however, the content being in that ee$tmp file.

?

rename dmkbox ee$tmp a dmkbox hrc370dk a
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:38:34
vmsetup cp
E (594) R/O
F (094) R/O
G (194) R/O
H (294) R/O
I (394) R/O
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:38:43
vmfasm dmkbox hrc370dk
File 'HRC370DK CNTRL *' not found.
*** HRC370DK CNTRL NOT FOUND ***
Ready(00002); T=0.01/0.01 13:38:57

My apologies the instructions have been taken from Gerard's web site who is sub-hosting Ren¨¦ Ferland's web space.

https://geronimo370.nl/s370/vm-370-virtual-machine/customise-vm-logon-screen/

The version of the system:

q cplevel
SYSTEM 4381-A
VM/370 Community Edition Version? 1 Release? 1.1 05/02/21 12:49:03
IPL at 21:59:37 GMT SATURDAY 03/05/22
PEAK LOAD= 007 USERS
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:46:47

Kind regards

Michael


Re: VM/370 CE - DMKBOX

 

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Michael,

I think there is an extra disk in the CE compared to what Rene wrote about. Did you do

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VMSETUP CP

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Which will access all the disks needed. Does this solve your problem?

If not please post a link to the instructions you followed, details of which version of CE you used.

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Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Grom
Sent: 09 March 2022 08:31
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] VM/370 CE - DMKBOX

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Dear Forum,

I'm fairly new to VM and thus doesn't have that much of an idea where the components that comprise the system reside. I found an article on Ren¨¦ Ferland's web space on how to change the VM/370 logon screen but that doesn't seem to work on VM/370 CE - it's vmfasm that chokes with an error about files not found. I've text searched the group on this subject but to no avail.?

kind regards
Michael


VM/370 CE - DMKBOX

 

Dear Forum,

I'm fairly new to VM and thus doesn't have that much of an idea where the components that comprise the system reside. I found an article on Ren¨¦ Ferland's web space on how to change the VM/370 logon screen but that doesn't seem to work on VM/370 CE - it's vmfasm that chokes with an error about files not found. I've text searched the group on this subject but to no avail.?

kind regards
Michael


Re: does anyone know this game/have source?

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 07:59 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:

That wasn't it, but thanks for taking a look. Our systems programmer was a PL/I guy and it may have been something he brought from his prior shop.

Man that thread ... that's the hardware I programmed on :) We replaced a 370/148 with a 4341 and retired the physical card reader (which I don't think I ever saw used). Fun times :)


Re: does anyone know this game/have source?

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 09:34 AM, BlameTroi wrote:
Waaaaay back in the early 80s on our CMS system I played a submarine warfare game while waiting on long runs to finish.
All I have been able to find, on narchive.com: https://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/jAwmVfmk/my-first-mainframe-experience-was-pf9-swap-question

is "battleship game by Dave McBride"

?... Mark S.


Re: GCCCMS for Modern z/VM

 

Be aware that the compiler is built using programming Interfaces from recent versions of VM/370 under Hercules. That may disallow the use of CMS features which came along later (for example, the extended CMS file system that allows files with more than 64k records).

The modernized CMS runtime for BREXX has updated versions of the GCS runtime code on the GCCCMS user ID. The newer runtime is on the MAINTC ID within a disk search order setup using the GCCSRCH exec on that user ID.

Bob Bolch


Re: GCCCMS for Modern z/VM

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 01:51 PM, Ren¨¦ Ferland wrote:
Just uploaded them!
It is file GCC-VMARC.zip. :-)

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


Re: GCCCMS for Modern z/VM

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:51 PM, rvjansen@... wrote:
Yes, VMARCs in the file area would be dandy!
Just uploaded them!

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


Re: GCCCMS for Modern z/VM

 

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Yes, VMARCs in the file area would be dandy!

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On 4 Mar 2022, at 21:49, Dennis Stone <dstone21@...> wrote:

The VMARC files would be great, thank you! (and some instructions, of course). I'm a long time MVS guy but I have a few years supporting VM and z/VM as well. You can send them to me directly at dstone21@..., or if someone else might want them too, I guess they could go in the files area.

Thanks!
Dennis

On 3/4/22 14:32, Ren¨¦ Ferland wrote:
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 08:50 AM, Dennis Stone wrote:
Does anyone have a pre-packaged setup of GCCCMS?
I took the GCCCMS of VM/370 and made three VMARC with it: one for the binaries, and two for the MACLIBs and include files (PDPCLIB or CMSLIB). I copy the whole thing on the account I have on z/VM 6.4 and that seems to work (although I just test Hello, World). Would these VMARC be okay for you? Or you would like to assemble GCCCMS from scratch?

Rene FERLAND, Montreal



Re: GCCCMS for Modern z/VM

 

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The VMARC files would be great, thank you! (and some instructions, of course). I'm a long time MVS guy but I have a few years supporting VM and z/VM as well. You can send them to me directly at dstone21@..., or if someone else might want them too, I guess they could go in the files area.

Thanks!
Dennis

On 3/4/22 14:32, Ren¨¦ Ferland wrote:

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 08:50 AM, Dennis Stone wrote:
Does anyone have a pre-packaged setup of GCCCMS?
I took the GCCCMS of VM/370 and made three VMARC with it: one for the binaries, and two for the MACLIBs and include files (PDPCLIB or CMSLIB). I copy the whole thing on the account I have on z/VM 6.4 and that seems to work (although I just test Hello, World). Would these VMARC be okay for you? Or you would like to assemble GCCCMS from scratch?

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


Re: GCCCMS for Modern z/VM

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 08:50 AM, Dennis Stone wrote:
Does anyone have a pre-packaged setup of GCCCMS?
I took the GCCCMS of VM/370 and made three VMARC with it: one for the binaries, and two for the MACLIBs and include files (PDPCLIB or CMSLIB). I copy the whole thing on the account I have on z/VM 6.4 and that seems to work (although I just test Hello, World). Would these VMARC be okay for you? Or you would like to assemble GCCCMS from scratch?

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


GCCCMS for Modern z/VM

 

This may have been asked before, but I am looking to install GCCCMS on a modern z/VM system. Does anyone have a pre-packaged setup of GCCCMS? I have downloaded the files from the GCCCMS directory in the files area, but it looks like the installation instructions are mainly for VM/370. Thanks in advance.

Dennis Stone


does anyone know this game/have source?

 

Waaaaay back in the early 80s on our CMS system I played a submarine warfare game while waiting on long runs to finish.

I want to say the game was "subwar" but I'm not sure. You played a sub with a finite number of torpedos, being pursued by some number of destroyers. It was decidedly low tech and very addictive.

I've been looking for the game on and off and have never found a mention. I just checked CBTTAPE.

Ring any bells?


Re: Any old time VP/CSS folks out there

 

Please note: I have now had several requests but I do not have any VP/CSS materials or the actual OS. I also don't know anyone who would have access to such a thing. Folks is getting old.....


Re: A question about vm/370 print output #VMCE

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 02:48 PM, <mikeci@...> wrote:
But, I am thinking modifying dmksep to always load ucs. That way 0x9f can be used to split output into separate files.
It looks like the place you would use to print the end banner page, if you still want one.

?... Mark S.


File /WAKEUP/WAKEUP.VMARC.A.zip uploaded #file-notice

[email protected] Notification
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Mark A. Stevens <marXtevens@...>

Description:
WAKEUP ASSEMBLE, SCHMAC MACLIB, extracted macros, and SCHMAC MEMO in VMARC, then zipped. vmarc list wakeup vmarc a WAKEUP ASSEMBLE A5. Bytes in= 2880, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). SCHMAC MACLIB A1. Bytes in= 30320, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $$DOLBL MACRO A1. Bytes in= 1120, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $$EQU MACRO A1. Bytes in= 1040, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $$IFCX MACRO A1. Bytes in= 9120, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $BGNDO MACRO A1. Bytes in= 1280, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $BIT MACRO A1. Bytes in= 2160, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $BYTE MACRO A1. Bytes in= 1200, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $CASE MACRO A1. Bytes in= 4000, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $CYCLE MACRO A1. Bytes in= 880, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $DO MACRO A1. Bytes in= 6480, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $ELSE MACRO A1. Bytes in= 1280, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $ELSEIF MACRO A1. Bytes in= 3120, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $ENDDO MACRO A1. Bytes in= 2000, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $ENDIF MACRO A1. Bytes in= 1360, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $IF MACRO A1. Bytes in= 3600, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $NIBIT MACRO A1. Bytes in= 720, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $OIBIT MACRO A1. Bytes in= 720, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $TMBIT MACRO A1. Bytes in= 720, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $UNDO MACRO A1. Bytes in= 1040, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). $XIBIT MACRO A1. Bytes in= 720, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). SCHMAC MEMO A1. Bytes in= 4720, bytes out= 0 ( 0%). Ready; T=0.05/0.07 12:15:36


Re: WAKEUP - does a emulation of this module exist

 

On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 09:33 AM, Anthony Smith wrote:
MACLIB MAP tells me the SCHMAC MACLIB is not a library. I have had a look and it is full of macros that I can read by eye including the ??EQU that defines the registers. Cannot work out what could be the issue with SCHMAC other than perhaps it originates from a later VM?
Sorry for the delay. As usual life gets in the way. SCHMAC MACLIB has been regenerated under VM/370 CE V1R1.

?... Mark S


Re: A question about vm/370 print output #VMCE

 

Mike wrote:

Actually, with latest hercules (Hercules version 4.4.1.10647-SDL-
gd0ccfbc9). this is what I see in the file:


00000000 9f 0d 0c 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a
|................|
00000010 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a 0a
|................|
MUCH better! The "9f" is Hercules's translation of VM/370's X'FF' character to ASCII (which, depending on what CODEPAGE Hercules is using, gets translated to ASCII X'9F').


So, indeed there is 0x9f as first character in the file. This is
created by dmksep, and is load ucs. If one drains printer and starts
it again, 0x9f will appear again.
Which is what Dave Wade already determined earlier.


0xff was there before in those two files from my previous post.
Which I'm *guessing* might be because either: a) you were either using and older version of Hercules, or b) you were using a CODEPAGE that translates EBCDIC X'FF' to ASCII X'FF'. One or the other or both.


It also seems that there is no end banner.
As I said, I can't help you with that. But I'm sure there's probably an easy way to do it. Check with Dave Wade or Bob Bolch. They should be able to help you.


But, I am thinking modifying dmksep to always load ucs. That way
0x9f can be used to split output into separate files.
Have fun. :)

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

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