Re: How to get good with Mural (and/or Miro)
Dear Enrico, Michelle, Bev, Carol and Fernando,
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Thank you for your encouraging responses and generous spirit. The main message I¡¯m reading is ¡®plunge in and have a go¡¯. So that is what I will do. Thank you for sharing the videos you have found
useful. I shall start with those and then use small friendly groups as guineapigs.
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I¡¯m sure I¡¯ll be back with more questions once I am more informed.
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Thank you!
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Hello everyone. Lovely exchange here. Many thanks!!
1) Mural has a nice YouTube Channel full of resources to get practice in the basics and advanced uses. It is also connected with a large Community of Practice, which makes it evolve quite well along the years.
2) Consultants Network - a free account:?
A nice business model that allows us, Consultants and Facilitators, to use the tool in full, and present it for future customers for Mural. Win-Win.
Fernando Murray
??? ?Boosting Human Connection through Virtual Facilitation.
On Mar 22, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Carol Hamilton <carol@...> wrote:
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I agree with much of what Enrico said. First I would choose one of them and go with it. I have run a program teaching people to facilitate online and we used both during the program. At the end I had each group do a pro and con for all
the tools we experimented with. Everyone wanted to know - which is better. And my answer across my non-scientific poll is it's a 50/50 split between people who like one or?the other tool better/ think it is easier to learn.
I learned by jumping in and using it. But that is how I learn most software. I watched a few videos on their websites beforehand to get a general idea. And then I get better by using Mural more. And learn from my mistakes - after building
a board, what I wished I had done differently.
One tip I learned the hard way - once you are done building a board - make a copy before you use it with a group and it is full of content. Then you can reuse it later.
Good luck! - Carol
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Re: Online conference options; Friday interview from an event organizer's perspective
Dear Lucas,
Thank you! Will it be recorded? I can't be there for the live
interview, but would be interested.
With kind regards, Griet
Am 25.03.2021 um 18:35 schrieb Lucas
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Hi all,
For those who are looking at hosting online conferences,
you can join an interactive interview of Skylen Roti Roti of
the?American Physical Society about how she set up her
organization's first event using QiqoChat, integrating Zoom?+
Google Docs?+ Gather.town (for networking).
This is an interview from an event organizer's perspective
rather than a sales pitch.? Skylen will?explain what worked
well and what she would want to try differently next time.?
She'll be happy to answer your questions.
Friday, March 26th at 11am Eastern.
Please .
See you then!
Lucas
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Online conference options; Friday interview from an event organizer's perspective
Hi all,
For those who are looking at hosting online conferences, you can join an interactive interview of Skylen Roti Roti of the?American Physical Society about how she set up her organization's first event using QiqoChat, integrating Zoom?+ Google Docs?+ Gather.town (for networking).
This is an interview from an event organizer's perspective rather than a sales pitch.? Skylen will?explain what worked well and what she would want to try differently next time.? She'll be happy to answer your questions.
Friday, March 26th at 11am Eastern.
Please .
See you then!
Lucas Cioffi QiqoChat | Lead Software Engineer lucas@... +1.917.528.1831 ?
Live Online Events | Engaging Communities | Real Collaboration Drop in for?
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@Sita I am curious about "?Miro has a lite version that loads much faster," I did some in depth load test between Miro and Mural as part of a deep dive technical class for facilitators and I checked out Miro Lite too.
I checked again today. A blank board in either Miro or Miro lite have the very same load time (on my 40down/20up connection it took about 1s) and data transfer (about 500 Kb).? I'd love to hear more about that.
I agree with tagging, it can be pretty useful! You can also use Miro's search and filter by tag. ? @amanda
Good point on that doc! found out yet another feature Miro removed from free accounts: sharing. It used to work. This is the lastest feature removed from the free account. Personally I am getting tired of Miro's policies, from the opaque day passes to disabling features (like voting and timers) from free users, to adding then removing guest names (as seen here ) to locking (anyone can lock is mislabeled?after their updates).?
Miro Lite's inability to save can be a deal breaker for many contexts. I can see how for small (5/6 ppl, 30 minutes) it might work. And you can export as a PDF! :)
@peggy
Spatial introduced a persistent chat in the last 2/3 weeks :) They still have the fading away "message" option.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:46 PM Sita Magnuson < sita@...> wrote: Hi Peggy, We¡¯ve been using Miro for this, which I have found very helpful because it also allows you to tag post-its with additional data. There is a tool that connects with it called clusterizer which might be useful. Happy to share more of the approach if you want to talk it through. Also-re bandwidth and accessibility, Miro has a lite version that loads much faster, which may be useful.? Warmly, Sita ? Hi Peggy,
There is something about the experience of people spontaneously sorting themselves out in a face to face meeting that comes through strongly in your message. It may also be worth checking out an environment with a spatial movement metaphor such as ?or which allows participants?to form their own groups/ conversational circles. There are also several other environments in this space with similar functionality.?
Best wishes :) Tony On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:27 AM Peggy Holman < peggy@...> wrote: Hi all,
I have several upcoming events for which I¡¯m searching for good online means for finding patterns, making visible what¡¯s emerging. This is the end of the event, where people have been in different breakout groups and we¡¯re coming towards a close.
In F2F, I¡¯d be using some sort of clustering activity, where people write something on 8.5x11 paper and move around to find others with a similar theme to form clusters that work together on expressing the idea(s) of their cluster.
Or I¡¯d use?, a great form of f2f crowdsourcing.
The best I¡¯ve come up with so far for online is using something like Jamboard for people to generate post-its and cluster them. Then form breakout groups to work the clusters.
Does anyone have approaches they suggest?
Thanks for any suggestions, Peggy
________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA ?98006 206-948-0432 Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning?
-- Tony Carr? Educational Technologist Convenor of the e/merge Africa Network CILT -?Centre For Innovation in Learning and Teaching Centre for Higher Education Development? University of Cape Town Cape Town South Africa? tony.carr@...? +2721 6505033? ? Twitter: @tony_emerge; @emergeafrica
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FWIW I was introduced to recently.?
Some discoveries: - Interface is awkward - you need to zoom out to see the room structure but you lose yourself - Moving your character is weird. Imagine something steering your car with a mouse.
It's an interesting idea that hasn't been fully worked out yet.?
Cheers Mark
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Hi Peggy - on Miro lite to help your investigating!
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On March 24, 2021, Peggy Holman <peggy@...> wrote: Many thanks for your thoughts Saran, Sita, and Tony.
The groups I¡¯m looking at are in the 30-40 people range, with everyone online. Since this activity is part of a larger flow, I¡¯ll have just 45 minutes to an hour.
Tony, I love the spacial platforms! To use one of them, I need to find a way to connect people and their messages. While the clusters f2f are in part the people, they¡¯re also the message. In spatial.chat, it looks like chat messages just stay for seconds. ?sets up a separate chat area, like Zoom. I have a sense that would get too confusing with 30-40 people to figure out how to find the person who connects to the message. But I¡¯ll play with it a little more.
Sita - I¡¯ll take a look at Miro lite and check out the clusterizer. Thank you for the suggestion.
Appreciatively, Peggy
On Mar 24, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Sarah Nehrling < sarah@...> wrote:
Agreed with Sita - hello, Sita! - and happy to learn about a Miro lite.
Peggy, I'm wondering about the size of your group and turnaround time. Here's a recent example involving a large, hybrid group, with at least a few hours turnaround time: For a recent hyper-hybrid of 400+ people over 9+ countries (Asia/Africa/Europe), we used an approach where there were physical walls in each room for that group to post and do their national-level sensemaking, without struggling with tech or connectivity issues. Someone in each country typed these into Excel, from which I then batch-created Miro stickies from these and batch-tagged them with day/type/country, essentially creating a virtual international wall on Miro.
From here, there were designated "sensemakers" (2-3 people) who would sort through the 100+ stickies of the day, organize them into themes, flow, contradictions, whatever, and then record and share a sensemaking tour of the Miro board. ?(! #linguisticaccessibility ).
Cheers, Sarah Facilitator, Trainer, Coach, Learner? (Virtual & In-Person)??|??
Ed.M.,?Learning?&?Teaching?Program |?Harvard Graduate School of Education Associate Certified Coach (ACC) | Learning Travel Blogger ? | ??On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 7:46 AM Sita Magnuson < sita@...> wrote: Hi Peggy, We¡¯ve been using Miro for this, which I have found very helpful because it also allows you to tag post-its with additional data. There is a tool that connects with it called clusterizer which might be useful. Happy to share more of the approach if you want to talk it through. Also-re bandwidth and accessibility, Miro has a lite version that loads much faster, which may be useful.? Warmly, Sita ? Hi Peggy,
There is something about the experience of people spontaneously sorting themselves out in a face to face meeting that comes through strongly in your message. It may also be worth checking out an environment with a spatial movement metaphor such as ?or which allows participants?to form their own groups/ conversational circles. There are also several other environments in this space with similar functionality.?
Best wishes :) Tony On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:27 AM Peggy Holman < peggy@...> wrote: Hi all,
I have several upcoming events for which I¡¯m searching for good online means for finding patterns, making visible what¡¯s emerging. This is the end of the event, where people have been in different breakout groups and we¡¯re coming towards a close.
In F2F, I¡¯d be using some sort of clustering activity, where people write something on 8.5x11 paper and move around to find others with a similar theme to form clusters that work together on expressing the idea(s) of their cluster.
Or I¡¯d use?, a great form of f2f crowdsourcing.
The best I¡¯ve come up with so far for online is using something like Jamboard for people to generate post-its and cluster them. Then form breakout groups to work the clusters.
Does anyone have approaches they suggest?
Thanks for any suggestions, Peggy
________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA ?98006 206-948-0432 Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning?
-- Tony Carr? Educational Technologist Convenor of the e/merge Africa Network CILT -?Centre For Innovation in Learning and Teaching Centre for Higher Education Development? University of Cape Town Cape Town South Africa? tony.carr@...? +2721 6505033? ? Twitter: @tony_emerge; @emergeafrica
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Many thanks for your thoughts Saran, Sita, and Tony.
The groups I¡¯m looking at are in the 30-40 people range, with everyone online. Since this activity is part of a larger flow, I¡¯ll have just 45 minutes to an hour.
Tony, I love the spacial platforms! To use one of them, I need to find a way to connect people and their messages. While the clusters f2f are in part the people, they¡¯re also the message. In spatial.chat, it looks like chat messages just stay for seconds. ?sets up a separate chat area, like Zoom. I have a sense that would get too confusing with 30-40 people to figure out how to find the person who connects to the message. But I¡¯ll play with it a little more.
Sita - I¡¯ll take a look at Miro lite and check out the clusterizer. Thank you for the suggestion.
Appreciatively, Peggy
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On Mar 24, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Sarah Nehrling < sarah@...> wrote:
Agreed with Sita - hello, Sita! - and happy to learn about a Miro lite.
Peggy, I'm wondering about the size of your group and turnaround time. Here's a recent example involving a large, hybrid group, with at least a few hours turnaround time: For a recent hyper-hybrid of 400+ people over 9+ countries (Asia/Africa/Europe), we used an approach where there were physical walls in each room for that group to post and do their national-level sensemaking, without struggling with tech or connectivity issues. Someone in each country typed these into Excel, from which I then batch-created Miro stickies from these and batch-tagged them with day/type/country, essentially creating a virtual international wall on Miro.
From here, there were designated "sensemakers" (2-3 people) who would sort through the 100+ stickies of the day, organize them into themes, flow, contradictions, whatever, and then record and share a sensemaking tour of the Miro board. ?(! #linguisticaccessibility ).
Cheers, Sarah Facilitator, Trainer, Coach, Learner? (Virtual & In-Person)??|??
Ed.M.,?Learning?&?Teaching?Program |?Harvard Graduate School of Education Associate Certified Coach (ACC) | Learning Travel Blogger ? | ??On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 7:46 AM Sita Magnuson < sita@...> wrote: Hi Peggy, We¡¯ve been using Miro for this, which I have found very helpful because it also allows you to tag post-its with additional data. There is a tool that connects with it called clusterizer which might be useful. Happy to share more of the approach if you want to talk it through. Also-re bandwidth and accessibility, Miro has a lite version that loads much faster, which may be useful.? Warmly, Sita ? Hi Peggy,
There is something about the experience of people spontaneously sorting themselves out in a face to face meeting that comes through strongly in your message. It may also be worth checking out an environment with a spatial movement metaphor such as ?or which allows participants?to form their own groups/ conversational circles. There are also several other environments in this space with similar functionality.?
Best wishes :) Tony On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:27 AM Peggy Holman < peggy@...> wrote: Hi all,
I have several upcoming events for which I¡¯m searching for good online means for finding patterns, making visible what¡¯s emerging. This is the end of the event, where people have been in different breakout groups and we¡¯re coming towards a close.
In F2F, I¡¯d be using some sort of clustering activity, where people write something on 8.5x11 paper and move around to find others with a similar theme to form clusters that work together on expressing the idea(s) of their cluster.
Or I¡¯d use?, a great form of f2f crowdsourcing.
The best I¡¯ve come up with so far for online is using something like Jamboard for people to generate post-its and cluster them. Then form breakout groups to work the clusters.
Does anyone have approaches they suggest?
Thanks for any suggestions, Peggy
________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA ?98006 206-948-0432 Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning?
-- Tony Carr? Educational Technologist Convenor of the e/merge Africa Network CILT -?Centre For Innovation in Learning and Teaching Centre for Higher Education Development? University of Cape Town Cape Town South Africa? tony.carr@...? +2721 6505033? ? Twitter: @tony_emerge; @emergeafrica
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Agreed with Sita - hello, Sita! - and happy to learn about a Miro lite.
Peggy, I'm wondering about the size of your group and turnaround time. Here's a recent example involving a large, hybrid group, with at least a few hours turnaround time: For a recent hyper-hybrid of 400+ people over 9+ countries (Asia/Africa/Europe), we used an approach where there were physical walls in each room for that group to post and do their national-level sensemaking, without struggling with tech or connectivity issues. Someone in each country typed these into Excel, from which I then batch-created Miro stickies from these and batch-tagged them with day/type/country, essentially creating a virtual international wall on Miro.
From here, there were designated "sensemakers" (2-3 people) who would sort through the 100+ stickies of the day, organize them into themes, flow, contradictions, whatever, and then record and share a sensemaking tour of the Miro board. ?(! #linguisticaccessibility ).
Cheers, Sarah Facilitator, Trainer, Coach, Learner? (Virtual & In-Person)??|??
Ed.M.,?Learning?&?Teaching?Program |?Harvard Graduate School of Education Associate Certified Coach (ACC) | Learning Travel Blogger ? | ??On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 7:46 AM Sita Magnuson < sita@...> wrote: Hi Peggy, We¡¯ve been using Miro for this, which I have found very helpful because it also allows you to tag post-its with additional data. There is a tool that connects with it called clusterizer which might be useful. Happy to share more of the approach if you want to talk it through. Also-re bandwidth and accessibility, Miro has a lite version that loads much faster, which may be useful.? Warmly, Sita ? Hi Peggy,
There is something about the experience of people spontaneously sorting themselves out in a face to face meeting that comes through strongly in your message. It may also be worth checking out an environment with a spatial movement metaphor such as ?or which allows participants?to form their own groups/ conversational circles. There are also several other environments in this space with similar functionality.?
Best wishes :) Tony On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:27 AM Peggy Holman < peggy@...> wrote: Hi all,
I have several upcoming events for which I¡¯m searching for good online means for finding patterns, making visible what¡¯s emerging. This is the end of the event, where people have been in different breakout groups and we¡¯re coming towards a close.
In F2F, I¡¯d be using some sort of clustering activity, where people write something on 8.5x11 paper and move around to find others with a similar theme to form clusters that work together on expressing the idea(s) of their cluster.
Or I¡¯d use?, a great form of f2f crowdsourcing.
The best I¡¯ve come up with so far for online is using something like Jamboard for people to generate post-its and cluster them. Then form breakout groups to work the clusters.
Does anyone have approaches they suggest?
Thanks for any suggestions, Peggy
________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA ?98006 206-948-0432 Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning?
-- Tony Carr? Educational Technologist Convenor of the e/merge Africa Network CILT -?Centre For Innovation in Learning and Teaching Centre for Higher Education Development? University of Cape Town Cape Town South Africa? tony.carr@...? +2721 6505033? ? Twitter: @tony_emerge; @emergeafrica
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Hi Peggy, We¡¯ve been using Miro for this, which I have found very helpful because it also allows you to tag post-its with additional data. There is a tool that connects with it called clusterizer which might be useful. Happy to share more of the approach if you want to talk it through. Also-re bandwidth and accessibility, Miro has a lite version that loads much faster, which may be useful.? Warmly,
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On Mar 23, 2021, at 7:12 PM, TonyCarr <tcarr.uct@...> wrote:
? Hi Peggy,
There is something about the experience of people spontaneously sorting themselves out in a face to face meeting that comes through strongly in your message. It may also be worth checking out an environment with a spatial movement metaphor such as ?or which allows participants?to form their own groups/ conversational circles. There are also several other environments in this space with similar functionality.?
Best wishes :) Tony On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:27 AM Peggy Holman < peggy@...> wrote: Hi all,
I have several upcoming events for which I¡¯m searching for good online means for finding patterns, making visible what¡¯s emerging. This is the end of the event, where people have been in different breakout groups and we¡¯re coming towards a close.
In F2F, I¡¯d be using some sort of clustering activity, where people write something on 8.5x11 paper and move around to find others with a similar theme to form clusters that work together on expressing the idea(s) of their cluster.
Or I¡¯d use?, a great form of f2f crowdsourcing.
The best I¡¯ve come up with so far for online is using something like Jamboard for people to generate post-its and cluster them. Then form breakout groups to work the clusters.
Does anyone have approaches they suggest?
Thanks for any suggestions, Peggy
________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA ?98006 206-948-0432 Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning?
-- Tony Carr? Educational Technologist Convenor of the e/merge Africa Network CILT -?Centre For Innovation in Learning and Teaching Centre for Higher Education Development? University of Cape Town Cape Town South Africa? tony.carr@...? +2721 6505033? ? Twitter: @tony_emerge; @emergeafrica
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Hi Peggy,
There is something about the experience of people spontaneously sorting themselves out in a face to face meeting that comes through strongly in your message. It may also be worth checking out an environment with a spatial movement metaphor such as ?or which allows participants?to form their own groups/ conversational circles. There are also several other environments in this space with similar functionality.?
Best wishes :) Tony
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:27 AM Peggy Holman < peggy@...> wrote: Hi all,
I have several upcoming events for which I¡¯m searching for good online means for finding patterns, making visible what¡¯s emerging. This is the end of the event, where people have been in different breakout groups and we¡¯re coming towards a close.
In F2F, I¡¯d be using some sort of clustering activity, where people write something on 8.5x11 paper and move around to find others with a similar theme to form clusters that work together on expressing the idea(s) of their cluster.
Or I¡¯d use?, a great form of f2f crowdsourcing.
The best I¡¯ve come up with so far for online is using something like Jamboard for people to generate post-its and cluster them. Then form breakout groups to work the clusters.
Does anyone have approaches they suggest?
Thanks for any suggestions, Peggy
________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA ?98006 206-948-0432 Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning?
-- Tony Carr? Educational Technologist Convenor of the e/merge Africa Network CILT -?Centre For Innovation in Learning and Teaching Centre for Higher Education Development? University of Cape Town Cape Town South Africa? tony.carr@...? +2721 6505033? ? Twitter: @tony_emerge; @emergeafrica
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Hi all,
I have several upcoming events for which I¡¯m searching for good online means for finding patterns, making visible what¡¯s emerging. This is the end of the event, where people have been in different breakout groups and we¡¯re coming towards a close.
In F2F, I¡¯d be using some sort of clustering activity, where people write something on 8.5x11 paper and move around to find others with a similar theme to form clusters that work together on expressing the idea(s) of their cluster.
Or I¡¯d use?, a great form of f2f crowdsourcing.
The best I¡¯ve come up with so far for online is using something like Jamboard for people to generate post-its and cluster them. Then form breakout groups to work the clusters.
Does anyone have approaches they suggest?
Thanks for any suggestions, Peggy
________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA ?98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning?
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Re: How to get good with Mural (and/or Miro)
Hello everyone. Lovely exchange here. Many thanks!!
My two cents would be:
1) Mural has a nice YouTube Channel full of resources to get practice in the basics and advanced uses. It is also connected with a large Community of Practice, which makes it evolve quite well along the years.
2) Consultants Network - a free account:? A nice business model that allows us, Consultants and Facilitators, to use the tool in full, and present it for future customers for Mural. Win-Win.
Cheers,
Fernando Murray
??? ?Boosting Human Connection through Virtual Facilitation.
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On Mar 22, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Carol Hamilton < carol@...> wrote:
I agree with much of what Enrico said. First I would choose one of them and go with it. I have run a program teaching people to facilitate online and we used both during the program. At the end I had each group do a pro and con for all the tools we experimented with. Everyone wanted to know - which is better. And my answer across my non-scientific poll is it's a 50/50 split between people who like one or?the other tool better/ think it is easier to learn.
I learned by jumping in and using it. But that is how I learn most software. I watched a few videos on their websites beforehand to get a general idea. And then I get better by using Mural more. And learn from my mistakes - after building a board, what I wished I had done differently.
One tip I learned the hard way - once you are done building a board - make a copy before you use it with a group and it is full of content. Then you can reuse it later.
Good luck! - Carol
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Re: How to get good with Mural (and/or Miro)
I agree with much of what Enrico said. First I would choose one of them and go with it. I have run a program teaching people to facilitate online and we used both during the program. At the end I had each group do a pro and con for all the tools we experimented with. Everyone wanted to know - which is better. And my answer across my non-scientific poll is it's a 50/50 split between people who like one or?the other tool better/ think it is easier to learn.
I learned by jumping in and using it. But that is how I learn most software. I watched a few videos on their websites beforehand to get a general idea. And then I get better by using Mural more. And learn from my mistakes - after building a board, what I wished I had done differently.
One tip I learned the hard way - once you are done building a board - make a copy before you use it with a group and it is full of content. Then you can reuse it later.
Good luck! - Carol
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Re: How to get good with Mural (and/or Miro)
Hi Arwen
I learn these tools by ¡°clicking about¡±. I play and experiment and see how the tool inspires me for a particular project or task I¡¯m working on. When I have a clearer idea of what I want to be able to do I might watch some videos that specifically help me to do that thing.
It can be small and quirky things that get me excited or that sell a tool to me - e.g. I love all the hundreds (millions? Infinite number?) of icons it has to offer. That, as well as how it makes me feel like I am in a room with a bunch of butcher paper, post-its, coloured paper, pens, and marvellous things for doing stuff on spacious empty walls.?
Bev
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On 22 Mar 2021, at 08:27, Arwen Bailey (Alliance of Bioversity and CIAT) < a.bailey@...> wrote:
Bev ? I love what you did here asynchronously. I¡¯m a great fan of asynchronous approaches as I find them more democratic somehow, reaching those with poor access, and giving time to think, check references, and translate into other languages.? ? However, my question is on another completely mundane point. ? - How do I get good with Mural? Or Miro? Or both?
- How much difference is there between the two?
- Did all youexperts who regularly use these tools take training or just self train by watching videos?
- In brief, what is my fastest route in my ¡°Couch to marathon¡± endevour to be able to use Mural (and/or Miro) well?
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On another note, we have used Mural for working across time zones and in several languages. It was a mix of synchronous and asynchronous. The attached Mural is what it looked like after the six week process. It was pretty empty to start with.? We used Mural as if it were a room where one group (from timezone South America) left the ¡°stuff¡± from their meetings on the wall so that when we met - synchronously - with the group from (timezone) Asia they were able to see the results of the meeting from their members from South America. And vice versa. You can see South American countries in the top right corner (orange/vertical) and the Asian countries in the bottom left (purple/horizontal). The emerging vision from both groups grew in the top left corner. They grew out of a series of different conversations with the two groups. They prepared and put their thoughts on the Mural, we discussed, we looked at what the others in the other regional group were saying, and people added or updated what they were saying based on what they were ¡°hearing¡±(asynchronously) ?from the group in the other timezone.? The bottom right corner of the attached Mural were specific quotes that people heard from fellow members that they wanted to record. Then in between are some things that just didn¡¯t fit anyone else.? One advantage of doing it like this is that - where necessary - someone (in the group) would translate someone¡¯s ¡°flip chart paper¡± or ¡°post-it note¡± into an appropriate language for other members of the group. The emerging vision was prepared in English and translated into Spanish as we went. It was a complex process (for us the facilitators, less so for the members) - so I haven¡¯t done it justice. But I hope it gives you the idea. ?
On 2 Mar 2021, at 14:49, Bev Wenger-Trayner via ??< bev@...> wrote: ? Gosh, Emma?? I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then. The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences. I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back. ?
On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith < emma@...> wrote: ? I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously. I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences. Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date. If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful.
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Re: How to get good with Mural (and/or Miro)
Hi Arwen,
I took a workshop to learn Miro and it was a great way to learn: Meeting Magic with Miro (by CoCreative Labs). The next session is this week:
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I love what you did here asynchronously. I¡¯m a great fan of asynchronous approaches as I find them more democratic somehow, reaching those with poor access, and giving time to think, check references, and translate into other languages.
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However, my question is on another completely mundane point.
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How do I get good with Mural? Or Miro? Or both?
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How much difference is there between the two?
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Did all youexperts who regularly use these tools take training or just self train by watching videos?
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In brief, what is my fastest route in my ¡°Couch to marathon¡± endevour to be able to use Mural (and/or Miro) well?
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Thank you in advance for your advice
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On another note, we have used Mural for working across time zones and in several languages. It was a mix of synchronous and asynchronous. The attached Mural is what it looked like after the six week process. It was pretty empty to start with.
We used Mural as if it were a room where one group (from timezone South America) left the ¡°stuff¡± from their meetings on the wall so that when we met - synchronously - with the group from (timezone) Asia they were able to see the results of the meeting from
their members from South America. And vice versa. You can see South American countries in the top right corner (orange/vertical) and the Asian countries in the bottom left (purple/horizontal).
The emerging vision from both groups grew in the top left corner. They grew out of a series of different conversations with the two groups. They prepared and put their thoughts on the Mural, we discussed, we looked at what the others in the other regional group
were saying, and people added or updated what they were saying based on what they were ¡°hearing¡±(asynchronously) ?from the group in the other timezone.?
The bottom right corner of the attached Mural were specific quotes that people heard from fellow members that they wanted to record.
Then in between are some things that just didn¡¯t fit anyone else.?
One advantage of doing it like this is that - where necessary - someone (in the group) would translate someone¡¯s ¡°flip chart paper¡± or ¡°post-it note¡± into an appropriate language for other members of the group. The emerging vision was prepared in English and
translated into Spanish as we went.
It was a complex process (for us the facilitators, less so for the members) - so I haven¡¯t done it justice. But I hope it gives you the idea.
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Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving
someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
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On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith <emma@...> wrote:
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I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously.
I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences.
Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date.
If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful.
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> How do I get good with Mural? Or Miro? Or both?
I think we all learn in different ways. I love to explore facilitation technical tools void of context and then entangle them into?a human context during community calls I run. A safe to fail experiment :)
I use both since some clients prefer one some the other.
? > How much difference is there between the two?
They're both excellent tools and there?are many differences between the two. Mural has some facilitator centric features,?Miro is kinda backfilling those features (ie. anybody used to be able to start stop timers) and trying to do a lot of other things (ie. wireframing).?
I created over 1h of short videos showing the differences between Miro and Mural from the facilitation point of view: If you think that'd be useful to you send me a mail, I am happy to share it. I created?it as warm up material for a live online class I teach on technical tools.
In the end, I always ask myself, is this tool's feature useful for this context? I also do a quick data check and load test on the boards I create to make sure they'd load without issue with slower connections.?
> Did all youexperts who regularly use these tools take training or just self train by watching videos?
I self train, host community events where I share what I know and pick up some new tricks. I check the tools release logs, I am also getting involved with some developers to test and check some unreleased features. I think that's a bit extreme but I am a nerd :)
> In brief, what is my fastest route in my ¡°Couch to marathon¡± endevour to be able to use Mural (and/or Miro) well?
I think we all learn in different ways: - Some people would get a lot out of watching videos on youtube. Mural has lots of videos about their features on their website. - Others learn by playing with the tools and banging their heads. - Other by finding a mentor or in a community
What's your preferred way to learn? Can you start safe to fail experiments with digital boards at your day work? I'd suggest joining a community of practice IAF has a monthly online facilitation call, I run one on Agile Retrospectives where we use Mural, hacking remote facilitation have monthly calls.
Hope this helped :) Enrico
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I love what you did here asynchronously. I¡¯m a great fan of asynchronous approaches as I find them more democratic somehow, reaching those with poor access, and giving time to think, check references,
and translate into other languages.
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However, my question is on another completely mundane point.
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- How do I get good with Mural? Or Miro? Or both?
- How much difference is there between the two?
- Did all youexperts who regularly use these tools take training or just self train by watching videos?
- In brief, what is my fastest route in my ¡°Couch to marathon¡± endevour to be able to use Mural (and/or Miro) well?
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Thank you in advance for your advice
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On another note, we have used Mural for working across time zones and in several languages. It was a mix of synchronous and asynchronous. The attached Mural is what it looked like after the six week process. It was pretty empty to start
with.
We used Mural as if it were a room where one group (from timezone South America) left the ¡°stuff¡± from their meetings on the wall so that when we met - synchronously - with the group from (timezone) Asia they were able to see the results
of the meeting from their members from South America. And vice versa. You can see South American countries in the top right corner (orange/vertical) and the Asian countries in the bottom left (purple/horizontal).
The emerging vision from both groups grew in the top left corner. They grew out of a series of different conversations with the two groups. They prepared and put their thoughts on the Mural, we discussed, we looked at what the others in
the other regional group were saying, and people added or updated what they were saying based on what they were ¡°hearing¡±(asynchronously) ?from the group in the other timezone.?
The bottom right corner of the attached Mural were specific quotes that people heard from fellow members that they wanted to record.
Then in between are some things that just didn¡¯t fit anyone else.?
One advantage of doing it like this is that - where necessary - someone (in the group) would translate someone¡¯s ¡°flip chart paper¡± or ¡°post-it note¡± into an appropriate language for other members of the group. The emerging vision was prepared
in English and translated into Spanish as we went.
It was a complex process (for us the facilitators, less so for the members) - so I haven¡¯t done it justice. But I hope it gives you the idea.
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On 2 Mar 2021, at 14:49, Bev Wenger-Trayner via <bev@...> wrote:
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Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies,
ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
?
On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith <emma@...> wrote:
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I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously.
I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences.
Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date.
If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful.
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Bev
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I love what you did here asynchronously. I¡¯m a great fan of asynchronous approaches as I find them more democratic somehow, reaching those with poor access, and giving time to think, check references,
and translate into other languages.
?
However, my question is on another completely mundane point.
?
- How do I get good with Mural? Or Miro? Or both?
- How much difference is there between the two?
- Did all youexperts who regularly use these tools take training or just self train by watching videos?
- In brief, what is my fastest route in my ¡°Couch to marathon¡± endevour to be able to use Mural (and/or Miro) well?
?
Thank you in advance for your advice
?
Arwen
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On another note, we have used Mural for working across time zones and in several languages. It was a mix of synchronous and asynchronous. The attached Mural is what it looked like after the six week process. It was pretty empty to start
with.
We used Mural as if it were a room where one group (from timezone South America) left the ¡°stuff¡± from their meetings on the wall so that when we met - synchronously - with the group from (timezone) Asia they were able to see the results
of the meeting from their members from South America. And vice versa. You can see South American countries in the top right corner (orange/vertical) and the Asian countries in the bottom left (purple/horizontal).
The emerging vision from both groups grew in the top left corner. They grew out of a series of different conversations with the two groups. They prepared and put their thoughts on the Mural, we discussed, we looked at what the others in
the other regional group were saying, and people added or updated what they were saying based on what they were ¡°hearing¡±(asynchronously) ?from the group in the other timezone.?
The bottom right corner of the attached Mural were specific quotes that people heard from fellow members that they wanted to record.
Then in between are some things that just didn¡¯t fit anyone else.?
One advantage of doing it like this is that - where necessary - someone (in the group) would translate someone¡¯s ¡°flip chart paper¡± or ¡°post-it note¡± into an appropriate language for other members of the group. The emerging vision was prepared
in English and translated into Spanish as we went.
It was a complex process (for us the facilitators, less so for the members) - so I haven¡¯t done it justice. But I hope it gives you the idea.
?
On 2 Mar 2021, at 14:49, Bev Wenger-Trayner via <bev@...> wrote:
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Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies,
ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
?
On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith <emma@...> wrote:
?
I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously.
I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences.
Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date.
If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful.
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The lab is designed to help participants improve their online facilitation and training skills by exposing them to adult learning methodologies and a workshop format known as ADIDS. We also provide an opportunity to design your own session and have your design peer reviewed by other participants. ?By the end of the lab participants will have: a peer-reviewed virtual session design ready for implementationa greater understanding of how to run effective workshops and conveningsan understanding of how to approach choosing virtual tools and their potential impacts, along with best practices for engaging participants online.connections with others on a similar learning journey.Access to the Virtual Session Design Canvas - a tool to help you in your future session planning.
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I apologize the answers have made it clear that I wasn't clear :-).
Next Friday I will work with a group of Directors in a Foundational level workshop. The Directors want Agile, but have concerns that the C-Suite will micro manage their use of Agile.?
The C-Suite won't be present next week. I will see them in April. So the directors are being transparent with each other and me. I will act as the anonymizer. I will strip out all identifying information surfacing only the underlying problems.
So I'm the safety mechanism for the directors.
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I'm not well-versed in Liberating Structures, but my organization has more than 200 similar protocols,?including the way we do Fishhbowl, which may or may not be the same. My concern would be the risk that non-senior-management participants would need to undergo to be transparent in their sharing.? So if I were writing a protocol to mitigate that risk, I would create an anonymous survey and then gather that anonymous data to use as a "third thing" to discuss, to depersonalize what's been said. If you can create a survey that gathers quantitative data, that would be best.
Hi Mark
For performance focused orgs, where senior leadership and management does not listen/hear, the fish bowl worked very well, in my experience.? Happy to talk about this offline.
The method/s selected for your design?will depend on the specific goals of the client, in tandem with your guidance.
Largest volume of info in the shortest time would be a survey (possibly anonymous) but this is a step in the "listening" process. Deep, authentic? dialogue in a short time...these parts you can customize based on the highlights from the data above.? An approach...
I paid attention?to equalizing participant?voices, and believe?there are a number of things that can be done in this regard.
Design depends on: How many people?? Online? How many sessions?? How long in total?? Purpose & objectives etc
Hope this helps a bit :) Best Sian
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:40 AM Mark Levison < mark@...> wrote: I fully understand that the request I'm about to make is a mis-use of Liberating Structures, also that this maybe the wrong forum. Nonetheless I will plow ahead.
I'm working with a client organization that has decided?it wishes to be more Agile. (I would prefer to say effective/resilient). One of things that have?come up is that their senior?management pays limited attention to what they say. They also note that their management likes to hear what consultants have to say. (Concerning).
So I offered to act as a lightning rod. They will share with me what challenges they see on their path to effectiveness/resilience (hmm micromanagement). I will rephrase so it's not attributable to them and management will hear.
Given that context?which LS would you mis-use to get the largest volume of information shared, with the greatest speed? I also want them to be inspired by each?other. Side effect: I want to introduce them to the power of LS.?
My first thought was a fish bowl.?
What structure would you use?
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