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In the case of the question about where the charge in a capacitor
lies - yes, we should ask the physics group. - mark --- In Electronics_101@y..., "d nixon" <dnixon9@h...> wrote: Yes, microcontrollers are electronic devices, but the discussion ofthem has generated so much traffic that they have their own group.belong to dothis group either. I think we're beyond the times where you could belong aseverything with discrete components. These days microcontrollers get allmuch to Basic Electronics as a transistor and a diode. using thetheir parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about about thatdsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited its 16part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, However atbit and much faster. But I mightpresent time I think I will have little use for it at work. <>play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun. Yahoo! Terms of Service. 7060580<>< line_a1 M=210675.1710593.3234377.1261774/D=egroupmai.asp?sc=14856015> Click Here! l/S=1706058037:HM/A=806910/rand=842370662> |
Mounir Shita
开云体育To a
certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a physics group.
However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete components are much
stronger than physics and electronics.
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Another point, a microcontroller is designed
specifically to interface with general electronics. I would say the discussion
of Pentium processor are much far off the topic cause these are not considered
or meant to be used in embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be
altered so much that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the
whole circuit.
?
So
simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong to this group. Of
course, if its more into specific software coding techniques of PICs (or
whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general programming questions,
microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group as much as capacitors and
charge :)
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Mounir
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Yes this is all well and good but if someone wants questions answered
about the PIC microcontrollers they will get better answers from a PIC discussion group. I have been in several PIC discussion groups over the years and found them very helpful. Asking PIC questions on this list is a little like asking VHDL questions on this list. It's related to electronics but I will probably get better answers on a discussion list devoted to the topic since there is one. I don't think there is a capacitors discussion list and capacitors are part of beginning electronics (electronics 101). Capacitors are also discussed in physics so capacitors could be discussed on either list. If there were a capacitors discussion list then better answers to capacitor questions would be found there. It is less about what should be discussed on this list and more about where the best answers can be found. --- In Electronics_101@y..., Mounir Shita <mshita@c...> wrote: To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in aphysics group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discretecomponents are much stronger than physics and electronics.interface with general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentiumprocessor are much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant tobe used in embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be altered somuch that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the wholethis group. Of course, if its more into specific software codingtechniques of PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But generalprogramming questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group asmuch as capacitors and charge :) |
Mounir Shita
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course, we could go further on and say that any questions regarding a diode
should be directed to the a diode list, either on Yahoo! Groups or Usenet or
something. And transistors to a transistor list, and so on. Which at the end
leaves this group with nothing.
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Bottom
line is I think that ANY general electronic question can be asked here. Anything
from resistors to shoot making a PCB board. Everything is 101 stuff. Now, if you
want to know how to make a super efficient multitasking PIC OS, then yeah, pic
list would give you a good answer. But I bet that most guys from pic list are in
this group too. And wouldn't such advance question be intriguing for beginners?
I know I sure got pretty tired of just learning about the real basic stuff when
I started. It was fun seeing and touching into the advance things too. That way
I could easily apply the beginners stuff with advance stuff!
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Mounir
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Yes I am in full agreement. The misunderstanding is not in the
freedom of being able to ask questions it is in the answers received. I can ask questions about my cat on the dog list and I will get answers but I might get better answers on the cat list. I appoligize if I was misunderstood as promoting censorship. --- In Electronics_101@y..., Mounir Shita <mshita@c...> wrote: Of course, we could go further on and say that any questionsregarding a diode should be directed to the a diode list, either on Yahoo!Groups or Usenet or something. And transistors to a transistor list, and soon. Which at the end leaves this group with nothing.asked here. Anything from resistors to shoot making a PCB board.Everything is 101 stuff. Now, if you want to know how to make a super efficientmultitasking PIC OS, then yeah, pic list would give you a good answer. But I betthat most guys from pic list are in this group too. And wouldn't suchadvance question be intriguing for beginners? I know I sure got prettytired of just learning about the real basic stuff when I started. It was funseeing and touching into the advance things too. That way I could easily applythe beginners stuff with advance stuff!answered about the PIC microcontrollers they will get better answers from atopic since there is one.are also discussed in physics so capacitors could be discussed oneither list. If there were a capacitors discussion list then betteranswers to capacitor questions would be found there.about where the best answers can be found.so muchwholethat you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the tocircuit. thisasgroup. Of course, if its more into specific software codingtechniques ofPICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But generalprogrammingquestions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group much as<capacitors and charge :) 060580 37:HM/A=766844/R=0/*>M=178320.1681224.3212089.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1706058037:HM/A=766844/rand=587613582> |
aconto
开云体育? Sure seems to be a lot of group moderators on this list…. or at least want-a-bees. You know I know we all have opinions and questions. So if a person doesn’t like the topics here they don’t have to be here… but I also see how my inbox has gotton full of crap too. I am here for information not drama…I can get that from Springer or any other TV program for that matter -----Original
Message----- ? Of course, we could go further on and say that any questions regarding a diode should be directed to the a diode list, either on Yahoo! Groups or Usenet or something. And transistors to a transistor list, and so on. Which at the end leaves this group with nothing. ? Bottom line is I think that ANY general electronic question can be asked here. Anything from resistors to shoot making a PCB board. Everything is 101 stuff. Now, if you want to know how to make a super efficient multitasking PIC OS, then yeah, pic list would give you a good answer. But I bet that most guys from pic list are in this group too. And wouldn't such advance question be intriguing for beginners? I know I sure got pretty tired of just learning about the real basic stuff when I started. It was fun seeing and touching into the advance things too. That way I could easily apply the beginners stuff with advance stuff! ? Mounir -----Original
Message----- Yes this is all
well and good but if someone wants questions answered
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Teodoro M. Villamarzo
Hi Mounir,
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????????Thanks for the info. Also, I await with eagerness the results of your putting a PIC into a toy robot. Hope you keep us posted. - Ted At 11:34 AM 11/1/01 -0500, you wrote: Hi Ted, |
Sunantoro
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I really enjoy being a member of this group. Another group that I also wish to join is that in yahoo discussing PC - hardwares. Appreciate if somebody could tell me the name. Thanks, SUNAN -----Original Message-----
From: Mounir Shita [SMTP:mshita@...] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:26 AM To: 'Electronics_101@...' Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a physics group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete components are much stronger than physics and electronics. Another point, a microcontroller is designed specifically to interface with general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentium processor are much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant to be used in embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be altered so much that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the whole circuit. So simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong to this group. Of course, if its more into specific software coding techniques of PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general programming questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group as much as capacitors and charge :) Mounir |
Jim Purcell
Sunantoro,
I really enjoy being a member of this group. Another group that I also wishActually you can check them out yourself on: yahoogroups.com The master group categories are there and you can choose whichever one suits your fancy. The search is interesting, and it boggles the mind to see how many different things people can get together to discuss. One of my favorite non techie site was for Jeri Ryan, who plays Seven of Nine on Star Trek Voyager. But it's gone now, good thing I downloaded the pics of her before it went away. :-) Jim |
pavankm2003
--- In Electronics_101@..., "d nixon" <dnixon9@...>
wrote: on Yahoo. code interestingsnippets with other people. Also if people have unique or have myprojects using PIC's I would be interested in knowing of them. I PICown PIC resource page - it generally deals with the Dick Smith interestedprogrammer and testbed, here is the url: hasin throwing in a link to it especially if it is a cool project or similar value. |