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In the case of the question about where the charge in a capacitor
lies - yes, we should ask the physics group.
- mark

--- In Electronics_101@y..., "d nixon" <dnixon9@h...> wrote:
Yes, microcontrollers are electronic devices, but the discussion of
them has
generated so much traffic that they have their own group.

Should we discuss electronics on the Physics group?

-Mike



From: Mounir Shita <mshita@c...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@y...
To: "'Electronics_101@y...'" <Electronics_101@y...>
Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:26:16 -0500

I would disagree with everyone who thinks PIC discussions doesn't
belong to
this group either. I think we're beyond the times where you could
do
everything with discrete components. These days microcontrollers
belong as
much to Basic Electronics as a transistor and a diode.

Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@h...]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:23 PM
To: Electronics_101@y...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources


You'd get a better answer on the PIC group.



From: "Teodoro M. Villamarzo" <tedmv@m...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@y...
To: Electronics_101@y...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:28:19 +0800

Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:

Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the
differences
between the PIC17 and 18?

Thanks...

Ted


At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll
get all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about
using the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited
about that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However,
its 16
bit and much faster.


From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive.
However at
present time I think I will have little use for it at work.
But I might
play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a physics group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete components are much stronger than physics and electronics.
?
Another point, a microcontroller is designed specifically to interface with general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentium processor are much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant to be used in embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be altered so much that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the whole circuit.
?
So simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong to this group. Of course, if its more into specific software coding techniques of PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general programming questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group as much as capacitors and charge :)
?
Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources

Yes, microcontrollers are electronic devices, but the discussion of them has
generated so much traffic that they have their own group.

Should we discuss electronics on the Physics group?

-Mike



>From: Mounir Shita
>Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
>To: "'Electronics_101@...'"
>Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:26:16 -0500
>
>I would disagree with everyone who thinks PIC discussions doesn't belong to
>this group either. I think we're beyond the times where you could do
>everything with discrete components. These days microcontrollers belong as
>much to Basic Electronics as a transistor and a diode.
>
>Mounir
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@...]
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:23 PM
>To: Electronics_101@...
>Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
>
>
>You'd get a better answer on the PIC group.
>
>
>
> >From: "Teodoro M. Villamarzo"
> >Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
> >To: Electronics_101@...
> >Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
> >Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:28:19 +0800
> >
> >Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:
> >
> >Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the
>differences
> >between the PIC17 and 18?
> >
> >Thanks...
> >
> >Ted
> >
> >
> >At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >>>Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get all
> >>>their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
> >>>dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about that
> >>>part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its 16
> >>>bit and much faster.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive. However at
> >>present time I think I will have little use for it at work.? But I might
> >>play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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Yes this is all well and good but if someone wants questions answered
about the PIC microcontrollers they will get better answers from a
PIC discussion group. I have been in several PIC discussion groups
over the years and found them very helpful.

Asking PIC questions on this list is a little like asking VHDL
questions on this list. It's related to electronics but I will
probably get better answers on a discussion list devoted to the topic
since there is one.

I don't think there is a capacitors discussion list and capacitors
are part of beginning electronics (electronics 101). Capacitors are
also discussed in physics so capacitors could be discussed on either
list. If there were a capacitors discussion list then better answers
to capacitor questions would be found there.

It is less about what should be discussed on this list and more about
where the best answers can be found.


--- In Electronics_101@y..., Mounir Shita <mshita@c...> wrote:
To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a
physics
group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete
components are
much stronger than physics and electronics.

Another point, a microcontroller is designed specifically to
interface with
general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentium
processor are
much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant to
be used in
embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be altered so
much
that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the whole
circuit.

So simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong to
this
group. Of course, if its more into specific software coding
techniques of
PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general
programming
questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group as
much as
capacitors and charge :)

Mounir


Mounir Shita
 

开云体育

Of course, we could go further on and say that any questions regarding a diode should be directed to the a diode list, either on Yahoo! Groups or Usenet or something. And transistors to a transistor list, and so on. Which at the end leaves this group with nothing.
?
Bottom line is I think that ANY general electronic question can be asked here. Anything from resistors to shoot making a PCB board. Everything is 101 stuff. Now, if you want to know how to make a super efficient multitasking PIC OS, then yeah, pic list would give you a good answer. But I bet that most guys from pic list are in this group too. And wouldn't such advance question be intriguing for beginners? I know I sure got pretty tired of just learning about the real basic stuff when I started. It was fun seeing and touching into the advance things too. That way I could easily apply the beginners stuff with advance stuff!
?
Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: manifold [mailto:manifold_1@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources

Yes this is all well and good but if someone wants questions answered
about the PIC microcontrollers they will get better answers from a
PIC discussion group.? I have been in several PIC discussion groups
over the years and found them very helpful.

Asking PIC questions on this list is a little like asking VHDL
questions on this list.? It's related to electronics but I will
probably get better answers on a discussion list devoted to the topic
since there is one.

I don't think there is a capacitors discussion list and capacitors
are part of beginning electronics (electronics 101).? Capacitors are
also discussed in physics so capacitors could be discussed on either
list.? If there were a capacitors discussion list then better answers
to capacitor questions would be found there.

It is less about what should be discussed on this list and more about
where the best answers can be found.


--- In Electronics_101@y..., Mounir Shita wrote:
> To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a
physics
> group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete
components are
> much stronger than physics and electronics.
>?
> Another point, a microcontroller is designed specifically to
interface with
> general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentium
processor are
> much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant to
be used in
> embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be altered so
much
> that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the whole
> circuit.
>?
> So simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong to
this
> group. Of course, if its more into specific software coding
techniques of
> PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general
programming
> questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group as
much as
> capacitors and charge :)
>?
> Mounir
>




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Yes I am in full agreement. The misunderstanding is not in the
freedom of being able to ask questions it is in the answers
received. I can ask questions about my cat on the dog list and I
will get answers but I might get better answers on the cat list.

I appoligize if I was misunderstood as promoting censorship.


--- In Electronics_101@y..., Mounir Shita <mshita@c...> wrote:
Of course, we could go further on and say that any questions
regarding a
diode should be directed to the a diode list, either on Yahoo!
Groups or
Usenet or something. And transistors to a transistor list, and so
on. Which
at the end leaves this group with nothing.

Bottom line is I think that ANY general electronic question can be
asked
here. Anything from resistors to shoot making a PCB board.
Everything is 101
stuff. Now, if you want to know how to make a super efficient
multitasking
PIC OS, then yeah, pic list would give you a good answer. But I bet
that
most guys from pic list are in this group too. And wouldn't such
advance
question be intriguing for beginners? I know I sure got pretty
tired of just
learning about the real basic stuff when I started. It was fun
seeing and
touching into the advance things too. That way I could easily apply
the
beginners stuff with advance stuff!

Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: manifold [mailto:manifold_1@y...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Electronics_101@y...
Subject: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources


Yes this is all well and good but if someone wants questions
answered
about the PIC microcontrollers they will get better answers from a
PIC discussion group. I have been in several PIC discussion groups
over the years and found them very helpful.

Asking PIC questions on this list is a little like asking VHDL
questions on this list. It's related to electronics but I will
probably get better answers on a discussion list devoted to the
topic
since there is one.

I don't think there is a capacitors discussion list and capacitors
are part of beginning electronics (electronics 101). Capacitors
are
also discussed in physics so capacitors could be discussed on
either
list. If there were a capacitors discussion list then better
answers
to capacitor questions would be found there.

It is less about what should be discussed on this list and more
about
where the best answers can be found.


--- In Electronics_101@y..., Mounir Shita <mshita@c...> wrote:
To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a
physics
group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete
components are
much stronger than physics and electronics.

Another point, a microcontroller is designed specifically to
interface with
general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentium
processor are
much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant to
be used in
embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be altered
so
much
that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the
whole
circuit.

So simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong
to
this
group. Of course, if its more into specific software coding
techniques of
PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general
programming
questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group
as
much as
capacitors and charge :)

Mounir



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?

Sure seems to be a lot of group moderators on this list…. or at least want-a-bees. You know I know we all have opinions and questions. So if a person doesn’t like the topics here they don’t have to be here… but I also see how my inbox has gotton full of crap too. I am here for information not drama…I can get that from Springer or any other TV program for that matter

-----Original Message-----
From: Mounir Shita [mailto:mshita@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:07 PM
To: 'Electronics_101@...'
Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources

?

Of course, we could go further on and say that any questions regarding a diode should be directed to the a diode list, either on Yahoo! Groups or Usenet or something. And transistors to a transistor list, and so on. Which at the end leaves this group with nothing.

?

Bottom line is I think that ANY general electronic question can be asked here. Anything from resistors to shoot making a PCB board. Everything is 101 stuff. Now, if you want to know how to make a super efficient multitasking PIC OS, then yeah, pic list would give you a good answer. But I bet that most guys from pic list are in this group too. And wouldn't such advance question be intriguing for beginners? I know I sure got pretty tired of just learning about the real basic stuff when I started. It was fun seeing and touching into the advance things too. That way I could easily apply the beginners stuff with advance stuff!

?

Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: manifold [mailto:manifold_1@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources

Yes this is all well and good but if someone wants questions answered
about the PIC microcontrollers they will get better answers from a
PIC discussion group.? I have been in several PIC discussion groups
over the years and found them very helpful.

Asking PIC questions on this list is a little like asking VHDL
questions on this list.? It's related to electronics but I will
probably get better answers on a discussion list devoted to the topic
since there is one.

I don't think there is a capacitors discussion list and capacitors
are part of beginning electronics (electronics 101).? Capacitors are
also discussed in physics so capacitors could be discussed on either
list.? If there were a capacitors discussion list then better answers
to capacitor questions would be found there.

It is less about what should be discussed on this list and more about
where the best answers can be found.


--- In Electronics_101@y..., Mounir Shita
> To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a
physics
> group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete
components are
> much stronger than physics and electronics.
>?
> Another point, a microcontroller is designed specifically to
interface with
> general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentium
processor are
> much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant to
be used in
> embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be altered so
much
> that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter the whole
> circuit.
>?
> So simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong to
this
> group. Of course, if its more into specific software coding
techniques of
> PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general
programming
> questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group as
much as
> capacitors and charge :)
>?
> Mounir
>




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Teodoro M. Villamarzo
 

Hi Mounir,

????????Thanks for the info. Also, I await with eagerness the results of your putting a PIC into a toy robot. Hope you keep us posted.

- Ted

At 11:34 AM 11/1/01 -0500, you wrote:

Hi Ted,
?
Yeah, actually I'm currently working on putting a PIC into a toy robot.
?
They are available commercially. Actually, PIC are one of the most popular microcontrollers among hobbyist. You can by them at about any electronic component store/distributor. Check out for example. To program them you either:
?
(1) Need a programmer. Which can be pretty expensive. But if you have one of those, then you're set for a long long time.
(2) You can get a In-Circuit Debugger which will program a few Flash parts.
(3) Make your own programmer (tons of schematics for this on the web) and use in-serial programming.
?
Mounir


Sunantoro
 

Dear friends,
I really enjoy being a member of this group. Another group that I also wish
to join is that in yahoo discussing PC - hardwares. Appreciate if somebody
could tell me the name.
Thanks,
SUNAN

-----Original Message-----
From: Mounir Shita [SMTP:mshita@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:26 AM
To: 'Electronics_101@...'
Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources

To a certain degree, I think electronics can be discussed in a
physics group. However, the tie between microcontrollers and discrete
components are much stronger than physics and electronics.

Another point, a microcontroller is designed specifically to
interface with general electronics. I would say the discussion of Pentium
processor are much far off the topic cause these are not considered or meant
to be used in embedded systems. A microcontrollers firmware can not be
altered so much that you can run Windows on it, unless you of course alter
the whole circuit.

So simply, yes, I still think microcontroller discussion belong to
this group. Of course, if its more into specific software coding techniques
of PICs (or whatever) then a pic list would be better. But general
programming questions, microcontroller interface etc, belongs to this group
as much as capacitors and charge :)

Mounir


Jim Purcell
 

Sunantoro,

I really enjoy being a member of this group. Another group that I also wish
to join is that in yahoo discussing PC - hardwares. Appreciate if somebody
could tell me the name.
Actually you can check them out yourself on: yahoogroups.com
The master group categories are there and you can choose
whichever one suits your fancy. The search is interesting,
and it boggles the mind to see how many different things
people can get together to discuss. One of my favorite
non techie site was for Jeri Ryan, who plays Seven of
Nine on Star Trek Voyager. But it's gone now, good thing
I downloaded the pics of her before it went away. :-)

Jim


pavankm2003
 

--- In Electronics_101@..., "d nixon" <dnixon9@...>
wrote:

There is a ton of stuff for PICs online. There's also a PIC group
on Yahoo.

-Mike



From: "Michael Carey" <mpc@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Subject: [Electronics_101] PIC resources
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:51:35 +1100

How many people have experience with PIC's, I am looking to share
code
snippets with other people. Also if people have unique or
interesting
projects using PIC's I would be interested in knowing of them. I
have my
own PIC resource page - it generally deals with the Dick Smith
PIC
programmer and testbed, here is the url:

If you have a webpage on a PIC project or resources I would be
interested
in throwing in a link to it especially if it is a cool project or
has
similar value.
Cheers Michael C

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