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Re: 1939 Register

 

Hi Derek,

Most people who have not died by 2000 are closed. Any that are open are exceptions. Normally you can only request a person be open if you can prove that they are deceased, but as I have found there are many exceptions, why?

Trust this helps.

On 19/10/2023 05:09, Derek Whitwam wrote:
Hi . Can anyone tell me why only my name is " officially closed " whist all other members of the family are listed , and can this be reversed ?. Derek Whitwam
Re: 1939 Register

 

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Hi Derek,
Your name is officially closed due to the 100 year privacy act.? Anyone who was born before 100 years ago their name has been opened in the Register.? As you are still alive, your name and information is closed.? People who are less than 100 years old but deceased their names are opened as well.
Hope this helps
Wendy Bloomfield


On 19/10/2023 12:09 pm, Derek Whitwam wrote:

Hi . Can anyone tell me why only my name is " officially closed " whist all other members of the family are listed , and can this be reversed ?. Derek Whitwam



Re: 1939 Register

 

Hi

It means that the date of birth is less than 100 years ago, and that no matching death record has been found.? ?There are instructions here to view your own record, and those of anyone you can prove is deceased.?

The whole article is worth reading to learn more about the?Register.?

Ruth

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 10:06, Derek Whitwam <atired.92@...> wrote:
Hi . Can anyone tell me why only my name is " officially closed " whist
all other members of the family are listed , and can this be reversed ?.
Derek Whitwam


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Re: 1939 Register

 

Hi Derek

Anyone born less than 100 years ago and death has not been proved are "closed records"

If you have proof of death you can submit it to Findmypast but am unsure how a living person can get one opened?

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 19/10/2023 05:09, Derek Whitwam wrote:
Hi . Can anyone tell me why only my name is " officially closed " whist all other members of the family are listed , and can this be reversed ?. Derek Whitwam
Re: 1939 Register

 

Derek
Because you are still alive
Alone those people alive should appear as being un-redacted

Regards
John Hanson FSG
Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust -
Research website -
And my own study of FOSKER

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Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 5:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yorksgen] 1939 Register

Hi . Can anyone tell me why only my name is " officially closed " whist all other members of the family are listed , and can this be reversed ?.
Derek Whitwam


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Re: 1939 Register

 

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Hi Derek;

It's because you're still living.? Only the deceased show and you have to provide a death certificate to open it.? That's my understanding of it.

Fran



On 19/10/2023 12:09 a.m., Derek Whitwam wrote:

Hi . Can anyone tell me why only my name is " officially closed " whist all other members of the family are listed , and can this be reversed ?. Derek Whitwam



Re: GORLEY

 

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Hi Maureen,

I found an 1851 England census listing three sons that were born in Leeds before the children you mentioned.? They are:

William, b. ~1845
Joseph b. ~1847
Henry b. ~1849

In 1860, they are living in Paterson, New Jersey, USA, additional children, John, Mary and James.?

I found the FindAGrave memorial for James. I will try to find the rest of the family and link them.

I see border crossings from Canada to the U.S. starting with 1895.? Since James was born in Canada, is it possible that he went there first, then came down to New Jersey?? Border crossings between Canada and the U.S. may not have been strict at that time.??

Hopefully this helps.??

Vicki Campbell
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mary-Jane Novak <mjn6903313@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 4:34:48 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yorksgen] GORLEY
?
Maureen, you might try:?
? ? ?on Ancestry??

The steamboats took passengers from Quebec City to Montreal and back. I have found an ancestor on the list.
Mary Jane in Ontario.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 9:51?AM Maureen Farrer <maureenfarrer71@...> wrote:
Hi Jen
Thanks for your email. No haven’t looked in the newspaper section of Find My past.
Will do. Just seemed to have disappeared like a lot of my brick walls in my
Tree,
Regards,
Maureen in Melbourne


> On 18 Oct 2023, at 4:21 am, Jen Meadows via <jenny=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ?Hi Maureen,
>
> I had a look on Familysearch but their immigration records to Canada start from 1862 and looking at other sites, immigration records to Canada were recorded from 1865.
>
> Have you looked for any shipping information in newspapers on Findmypast?
>
> Regards,
> Jen
> Sydney AU
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> On: 11/10/2023 Maureen Farrer wrote:
> Subject: [yorksgen] GORLEY
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> I have a problem which I would hope someone could direct me where to look.
>>
>> I have searched Ancestry (worldwide) and Find My Past. The following information? is what I have,
>>
>> Joseph GORLEY b.1793 in Cockermouth married Marie LIEVESLEY b.1798 in Leeds.
>> Married in St. Peter’s York in 1819. He was a Hatter.
>>
>> Then the next I have is they had
>> James b. 10 Nov. 1822 in Quebec
>> Sarah b. 29 July 1824 in Quebec
>> Maria b. 28 March 1828 in Quebec
>>
>> They then must have come back to UK as they were all baptised in Bingley in 1929.
>> Then John Lievesley was born in 1831 in Leeds
>>
>> In the census of 1841, 1851 They were all there including Mother Maria, but not the father.
>> Also they say the above first three were born in Quebec.
>>
>> The father was listed in U.K. City and Counties Directory in 1834 as a Hatter.
>> Next sighting was in U.S. Federal census in 1850, Essex New Jersey.
>> Died in 1857 in Newark, New York.
>>
>> First son James married Frances Peace? in York in 1844 and they had first three children in Leeds
>> and then son Edward was b. in 1860 New Jersey John B. 1862 New Jersey and Maria b. 1864 in New Jersey.
>>
>> James died in New Jersey in 1873.
>>
>> Why cant I find any departures and arrivals from Uk to Quebec or back to U.K. ?
>>
>> Big puzzle.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>





1939 Register

 

Hi . Can anyone tell me why only my name is " officially closed " whist all other members of the family are listed , and can this be reversed ?. Derek Whitwam


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Re: GORLEY

 

Maureen, you might try:?
? ? ?on Ancestry??

The steamboats took passengers from Quebec City to Montreal and back. I have found an ancestor on the list.
Mary Jane in Ontario.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 9:51?AM Maureen Farrer <maureenfarrer71@...> wrote:
Hi Jen
Thanks for your email. No haven’t looked in the newspaper section of Find My past.
Will do. Just seemed to have disappeared like a lot of my brick walls in my
Tree,
Regards,
Maureen in Melbourne


> On 18 Oct 2023, at 4:21 am, Jen Meadows via <jenny=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ?Hi Maureen,
>
> I had a look on Familysearch but their immigration records to Canada start from 1862 and looking at other sites, immigration records to Canada were recorded from 1865.
>
> Have you looked for any shipping information in newspapers on Findmypast?
>
> Regards,
> Jen
> Sydney AU
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> On: 11/10/2023 Maureen Farrer wrote:
> Subject: [yorksgen] GORLEY
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> I have a problem which I would hope someone could direct me where to look.
>>
>> I have searched Ancestry (worldwide) and Find My Past. The following information? is what I have,
>>
>> Joseph GORLEY b.1793 in Cockermouth married Marie LIEVESLEY b.1798 in Leeds.
>> Married in St. Peter’s York in 1819. He was a Hatter.
>>
>> Then the next I have is they had
>> James b. 10 Nov. 1822 in Quebec
>> Sarah b. 29 July 1824 in Quebec
>> Maria b. 28 March 1828 in Quebec
>>
>> They then must have come back to UK as they were all baptised in Bingley in 1929.
>> Then John Lievesley was born in 1831 in Leeds
>>
>> In the census of 1841, 1851 They were all there including Mother Maria, but not the father.
>> Also they say the above first three were born in Quebec.
>>
>> The father was listed in U.K. City and Counties Directory in 1834 as a Hatter.
>> Next sighting was in U.S. Federal census in 1850, Essex New Jersey.
>> Died in 1857 in Newark, New York.
>>
>> First son James married Frances Peace? in York in 1844 and they had first three children in Leeds
>> and then son Edward was b. in 1860 New Jersey John B. 1862 New Jersey and Maria b. 1864 in New Jersey.
>>
>> James died in New Jersey in 1873.
>>
>> Why cant I find any departures and arrivals from Uk to Quebec or back to U.K. ?
>>
>> Big puzzle.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: GORLEY

 

Maureen
The first thing to remember is that none of the records that we all use on a day to day basis were ever created with family history in mind.

In the UK passenger lists were maintained by the Board of Trade and they decided many years ago that they didn't need to keep any passenger lists prior to 1890 so finding any record prior to then is more likely in newspapers or on the immigration lists where they went.

If you are researching in newspapers then don't restrict yourself to the time period you think - I have seen reports from sons of early pioneers who came back 70 years later to visit the homeland of the fathers

If you are using FamilySearch these days then don’t rely on the catalogue as many of the newer sets are image only. I have found passenger list into New Zealand for the period you are looking at that are there but not indexed yet.

So, start you research into immigration here

Regards
John Hanson FSG
Researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names
Researcher, the Halsted Trust -
Research website -
And my own study of FOSKER

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Maureen Farrer
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yorksgen] GORLEY

Hi Listers,

I have a problem which I would hope someone could direct me where to look.

I have searched Ancestry (worldwide) and Find My Past. The following information is what I have,

Joseph GORLEY b.1793 in Cockermouth married Marie LIEVESLEY b.1798 in Leeds.
Married in St. Peter’s York in 1819. He was a Hatter.

Then the next I have is they had
James b. 10 Nov. 1822 in Quebec
Sarah b. 29 July 1824 in Quebec
Maria b. 28 March 1828 in Quebec

They then must have come back to UK as they were all baptised in Bingley in 1929.
Then John Lievesley was born in 1831 in Leeds

In the census of 1841, 1851 They were all there including Mother Maria, but not the father.
Also they say the above first three were born in Quebec.

The father was listed in U.K. City and Counties Directory in 1834 as a Hatter.
Next sighting was in U.S. Federal census in 1850, Essex New Jersey.
Died in 1857 in Newark, New York.

First son James married Frances Peace in York in 1844 and they had first three children in Leeds and then son Edward was b. in 1860 New Jersey John B. 1862 New Jersey and Maria b. 1864 in New Jersey.

James died in New Jersey in 1873.

Why cant I find any departures and arrivals from Uk to Quebec or back to U.K. ?

Big puzzle.

Maureen in Oz.
Re: GORLEY

 

Hi Jen
Thanks for your email. No haven’t looked in the newspaper section of Find My past.
Will do. Just seemed to have disappeared like a lot of my brick walls in my
Tree,
Regards,
Maureen in Melbourne

On 18 Oct 2023, at 4:21 am, Jen Meadows via groups.io <jenny@...> wrote:

?Hi Maureen,

I had a look on Familysearch but their immigration records to Canada start from 1862 and looking at other sites, immigration records to Canada were recorded from 1865.

Have you looked for any shipping information in newspapers on Findmypast?

Regards,
Jen
Sydney AU

------ Original Message ------
On: 11/10/2023 Maureen Farrer wrote:
Subject: [yorksgen] GORLEY

Hi Listers,

I have a problem which I would hope someone could direct me where to look.

I have searched Ancestry (worldwide) and Find My Past. The following information is what I have,

Joseph GORLEY b.1793 in Cockermouth married Marie LIEVESLEY b.1798 in Leeds.
Married in St. Peter’s York in 1819. He was a Hatter.

Then the next I have is they had
James b. 10 Nov. 1822 in Quebec
Sarah b. 29 July 1824 in Quebec
Maria b. 28 March 1828 in Quebec

They then must have come back to UK as they were all baptised in Bingley in 1929.
Then John Lievesley was born in 1831 in Leeds

In the census of 1841, 1851 They were all there including Mother Maria, but not the father.
Also they say the above first three were born in Quebec.

The father was listed in U.K. City and Counties Directory in 1834 as a Hatter.
Next sighting was in U.S. Federal census in 1850, Essex New Jersey.
Died in 1857 in Newark, New York.

First son James married Frances Peace in York in 1844 and they had first three children in Leeds
and then son Edward was b. in 1860 New Jersey John B. 1862 New Jersey and Maria b. 1864 in New Jersey.

James died in New Jersey in 1873.

Why cant I find any departures and arrivals from Uk to Quebec or back to U.K. ?

Big puzzle.
Re: GORLEY

 

Hi Maureen,

I had a look on Familysearch but their immigration records to Canada start from 1862 and looking at other sites, immigration records to Canada were recorded from 1865.

Have you looked for any shipping information in newspapers on Findmypast?

Regards,
Jen
Sydney AU

------ Original Message ------
On: 11/10/2023 Maureen Farrer wrote:
Subject: [yorksgen] GORLEY

Hi Listers,

I have a problem which I would hope someone could direct me where to look.

I have searched Ancestry (worldwide) and Find My Past. The following information is what I have,

Joseph GORLEY b.1793 in Cockermouth married Marie LIEVESLEY b.1798 in Leeds.
Married in St. Peter’s York in 1819. He was a Hatter.

Then the next I have is they had
James b. 10 Nov. 1822 in Quebec
Sarah b. 29 July 1824 in Quebec
Maria b. 28 March 1828 in Quebec

They then must have come back to UK as they were all baptised in Bingley in 1929.
Then John Lievesley was born in 1831 in Leeds

In the census of 1841, 1851 They were all there including Mother Maria, but not the father.
Also they say the above first three were born in Quebec.

The father was listed in U.K. City and Counties Directory in 1834 as a Hatter.
Next sighting was in U.S. Federal census in 1850, Essex New Jersey.
Died in 1857 in Newark, New York.

First son James married Frances Peace in York in 1844 and they had first three children in Leeds
and then son Edward was b. in 1860 New Jersey John B. 1862 New Jersey and Maria b. 1864 in New Jersey.

James died in New Jersey in 1873.

Why cant I find any departures and arrivals from Uk to Quebec or back to U.K. ?

Big puzzle.
GORLEY

 

Hi Listers,

I have a problem which I would hope someone could direct me where to look.

I have searched Ancestry (worldwide) and Find My Past. The following information is what I have,

Joseph GORLEY b.1793 in Cockermouth married Marie LIEVESLEY b.1798 in Leeds.
Married in St. Peter’s York in 1819. He was a Hatter.

Then the next I have is they had
James b. 10 Nov. 1822 in Quebec
Sarah b. 29 July 1824 in Quebec
Maria b. 28 March 1828 in Quebec

They then must have come back to UK as they were all baptised in Bingley in 1929.
Then John Lievesley was born in 1831 in Leeds

In the census of 1841, 1851 They were all there including Mother Maria, but not the father.
Also they say the above first three were born in Quebec.

The father was listed in U.K. City and Counties Directory in 1834 as a Hatter.
Next sighting was in U.S. Federal census in 1850, Essex New Jersey.
Died in 1857 in Newark, New York.

First son James married Frances Peace in York in 1844 and they had first three children in Leeds
and then son Edward was b. in 1860 New Jersey John B. 1862 New Jersey and Maria b. 1864 in New Jersey.

James died in New Jersey in 1873.

Why cant I find any departures and arrivals from Uk to Quebec or back to U.K. ?

Big puzzle.

Maureen in Oz.
Anyone looking for Thos. Saulsbury WRIGHT b 1843

 

Morning All. A friend was recently on Norfolk Island off the east coast of Australia and stumbled across a headstone in a cemetery for:-
Thos Saulsbury WRIGHT.
Native of Frodingham, Yorkshire
Who died 7 Feb 1843
aged 105

Knowing my connection to Yorkshire she took a photo of it.
I have WRIGHTs from Yorkshire but sadly he's not one of mine.
After a quick Google search it would seem more likely that he was from North Frodingham as the
"other" Frodingham is in Lincolnshire.

If he belongs to anyone I can send the photo on to you.

ttfn
Trish
ex Hull lass on central coast of NSW.
Re: Bradford Burials 1812

 

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Thank you Arthur, I thought that might be the case.

Maureen

On 29 Sep 2023, at 2:14 am, Arthur K <kengen@...> wrote:

Some of the other entries around that time are of the form "Joan SMITH of Horton Widow", so it seems likely that William was still alive. I noticed that the BT (at FindMyPast) has Betty's surname spelled HAIGH, so if you're looking for William's burial, it would be a good idea to use that spelling too.

There was a William?HAIGH aged 78 buried in Bradford in 1818, and one aged 27 in 1822 who may have been too young, but plenty more (HAIGH or HAGUE) a bit further away, especially in the Huddersfield area.

Arthur


On 26/09/2023 09:45, Maureen Farrer wrote:
I have found a Betty HAGUE buried in the Bradford Cathedral in March 1812. It says wife of
William HAGUE (I think it says Sawyer for his occupation).
What I would like to know, does that mean William was still alive then as it didnt say widow ?

Re: Bradford Burials 1812

Arthur K
 

Some of the other entries around that time are of the form "Joan SMITH of Horton Widow", so it seems likely that William was still alive. I noticed that the BT (at FindMyPast) has Betty's surname spelled HAIGH, so if you're looking for William's burial, it would be a good idea to use that spelling too.

There was a William?HAIGH aged 78 buried in Bradford in 1818, and one aged 27 in 1822 who may have been too young, but plenty more (HAIGH or HAGUE) a bit further away, especially in the Huddersfield area.

Arthur


On 26/09/2023 09:45, Maureen Farrer wrote:

I have found a Betty HAGUE buried in the Bradford Cathedral in March 1812. It says wife of
William HAGUE (I think it says Sawyer for his occupation).
What I would like to know, does that mean William was still alive then as it didnt say widow ?

Locked Yorkshire Surnames List - September update

 

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Hi Listers,

I have found a Betty HAGUE buried in the Bradford Cathedral in March 1812. It says wife of
William HAGUE (I think it says Sawyer for his occupation).
What I would like to know, does that mean William was still alive then as it didnt say widow ?

Thanks,
Maureen in Oz.

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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Many thanks for Nivard and Lesley for their input re the age requirement of witnesses on baptism/marriage registers.  Looks like I have more work to do.

ttfn
Trish
ex Hull lass on central coast of NSW

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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There was no general rule as to the age a witness was required to be, I have seen as young as 12 or 14 acting as a witness

I believe they only needed to understand what they were being asked to do

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On 19/09/2023 00:13, Trish Michael via groups.io wrote:
Good morning all.  Hope you are all well?
I've often wondered if witness on various records back in the mid 1820's (ie Marriages) would be required to be 21 and over.   I am struggling to find a baptism for one of my people and if I can narrow his date of birth down a bit it might help. So far census records haven't helped.
ttfn
Trish
ex Hull lass on central coast of NSW.

					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
	

	
	
	
	


	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	
	

		
		
		
		
	



	

		

			
	
		

			
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