Incoming Hurricane Milton 10/8/2024
For those of us using winlink, and learning how to apply it during an emergency, the .io [winlink-programs-group] posted today 10/8/2024 the following conversation.
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Please postpone regular Winlink Nets and testing during hurricane response!
The WDT is requesting that all non-essential Winlink traffic (weekly nets, testing, etc.) be postponed until after hurricane Milton has moved on and response efforts have turned to recovery. There is still a lot of traffic in the aftermath of Helene, and we expect Milton will add significantly to that. We need to keep the gateways clear for that traffic. Thank you! Scott, NS7C
Would that include Telnet??Mike Gormley WA8VEC?Sebring, FL
No.? ?The idea is to keep the HF spectrum freed up for disaster use.?Tom N5TW
Wasn't sure you were also concerned about the CMS's. Mike Gormley? WA8VEC?Sebring, FL
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Carol B Flaherty KA7ROL
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The $1200 would actually be $1400 per system. The people I work with on the Bridger site with the Forest Service are indicating to me that it¡¯s unlikely it will never happen. Right now ERA only puts out for 1/2 of the rent on Bridger for use of that site. Because of the way the association up there is Designed, there¡¯s no way to get that site for free. Fortunately 1/2 is not undoable for the association as long as people contribute every year.? Neil Neil Ramhorst KL7JGS
P.O. Box 4424
Bozeman, MT 59772-4424
406-581-1575
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 2:34?PM Spencer KJ7SSS via <spencershuman= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Sue,
I think gaining that knowledge for the repeater network will go hand in hand with your first point there, and hopefully Harley and/or some other folks can help us out in that regard.
The $1,200 fee comes from the passage of the Farm Bill, which seems to be getting kicked down the road. Each year it comes up, but no traction has been made in actually enforcing? that fee. However, I think that applying for some grants would be an amazing thing, even if it is to hedge our bets against the possibility of those fees going live.
Pulling together a maintenance schedule and setting aside funding should?be a core goal of this project, but I can not speak to any sort of numbers until we get more information.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
Spencer
Thank you Spencer. In addition to the maintenance aspect, it would be helpful to understand the repeater network in general - who owns or leases and from whom etc. How & who to go to for access ?& how the nationwide network ties together.?Being less than a year into the ham world, personally, I don¡¯t understand how the repeater networks operate.?
Before I stepped in as treasurer, a comment was made by an officer that the club needed to pay$1200 annually for one of the repeaters. Some quick math @$25 pp for club members, the club would be well shy for that one item alone - which is how the topic of grants came into focus. I would have been happy to pursue a grant for rent, repairs, new equipment etc.? ?So, in addition to current maintenance, are there other long term considerations? Who holds the leases? How long do they run through?? As you mentioned the repeaters have been operational for decades, finding funding if necessary is not a short process and it would be great if people understood and could help.?
I¡¯ve seen at the bottom of posted meeting minutes that donations can be made to the repeater networks but it¡¯s never been mentioned at a meeting. Perhaps some of the other newer members would benefit from a repeater overview as well.?
At the last meeting it was announced that Harley was going to give an overview of the repeater systems but instead we got tied up with the logistics of use of the SAR building for meetings. It would be great if we could have the repeater network be a topic at one of the meetings!?
Thank you!
On Oct 7, 2024, at 12:27?PM, Spencer KJ7SSS via <spencershuman=[email protected]> wrote:
? Good afternoon all,
?
The recent 82 repeater maintenance threads got me thinking about to manage the amazing network of repeaters that we have in this area, and how delicate our network really is. As such, I would like to propose a potential method to disperse the workload, and more importantly, the knowledge about each of these repeaters.
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As we all know, Harley Leach has been spearheading the repeater maintenance for the past several years (decades...), and has reached out to the club numerous times asking for help. Personally, I feel a little overwhelmed offering up my assistance, because I really don't know what each repeater looks like, what it is made of, and how they work. What I would first like to work on is writing down and organizing all of the repeaters' data into one, secure, accessible location, of which my first thought would be on the Groups.io page.
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Groups.io has a way to incorporate a wiki into our page (I don't have write access, but it is at the bottom of the page), and I think that would be a great way to store the information for each one of these repeaters. It can be locked down so only members can see the information, and we can continually add to the wiki as things are fixed.
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I am willing to spearhead this data collection and organization, as well as help as much as possible in the actual repeater maintenance, but I will need significant help and guidance in gathering the information, as well as some updated permissions in the Groups.io so I can make edits to the wiki. Please feel free to reach out with any questions, comments, or concerns you might have with this project, and until then, 73's.
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Spencer Shuman - KJ7SSS
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Enjoy the day!
Sue D.
KK7RYG
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Hi Sue,
I think gaining that knowledge for the repeater network will go hand in hand with your first point there, and hopefully Harley and/or some other folks can help us out in that regard.
The $1,200 fee comes from the passage of the Farm Bill, which seems to be getting kicked down the road. Each year it comes up, but no traction has been made in actually enforcing? that fee. However, I think that applying for some grants would be an amazing thing, even if it is to hedge our bets against the possibility of those fees going live.
Pulling together a maintenance schedule and setting aside funding should?be a core goal of this project, but I can not speak to any sort of numbers until we get more information.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
Spencer
Thank you Spencer. In addition to the maintenance aspect, it would be helpful to understand the repeater network in general - who owns or leases and from whom etc. How & who to go to for access ?& how the nationwide network ties together.?Being less than a year into the ham world, personally, I don¡¯t understand how the repeater networks operate.?
Before I stepped in as treasurer, a comment was made by an officer that the club needed to pay$1200 annually for one of the repeaters. Some quick math @$25 pp for club members, the club would be well shy for that one item alone - which is how the topic of grants came into focus. I would have been happy to pursue a grant for rent, repairs, new equipment etc.? ?So, in addition to current maintenance, are there other long term considerations? Who holds the leases? How long do they run through?? As you mentioned the repeaters have been operational for decades, finding funding if necessary is not a short process and it would be great if people understood and could help.?
I¡¯ve seen at the bottom of posted meeting minutes that donations can be made to the repeater networks but it¡¯s never been mentioned at a meeting. Perhaps some of the other newer members would benefit from a repeater overview as well.?
At the last meeting it was announced that Harley was going to give an overview of the repeater systems but instead we got tied up with the logistics of use of the SAR building for meetings. It would be great if we could have the repeater network be a topic at one of the meetings!?
Thank you!
On Oct 7, 2024, at 12:27?PM, Spencer KJ7SSS via <spencershuman=[email protected]> wrote:
? Good afternoon all,
?
The recent 82 repeater maintenance threads got me thinking about to manage the amazing network of repeaters that we have in this area, and how delicate our network really is. As such, I would like to propose a potential method to disperse the workload, and more importantly, the knowledge about each of these repeaters.
?
As we all know, Harley Leach has been spearheading the repeater maintenance for the past several years (decades...), and has reached out to the club numerous times asking for help. Personally, I feel a little overwhelmed offering up my assistance, because I really don't know what each repeater looks like, what it is made of, and how they work. What I would first like to work on is writing down and organizing all of the repeaters' data into one, secure, accessible location, of which my first thought would be on the Groups.io page.
?
Groups.io has a way to incorporate a wiki into our page (I don't have write access, but it is at the bottom of the page), and I think that would be a great way to store the information for each one of these repeaters. It can be locked down so only members can see the information, and we can continually add to the wiki as things are fixed.
?
I am willing to spearhead this data collection and organization, as well as help as much as possible in the actual repeater maintenance, but I will need significant help and guidance in gathering the information, as well as some updated permissions in the Groups.io so I can make edits to the wiki. Please feel free to reach out with any questions, comments, or concerns you might have with this project, and until then, 73's.
?
Spencer Shuman - KJ7SSS
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Enjoy the day!
Sue D.
KK7RYG
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Reminder: 88 repeater net
When:
Tuesday, October 8, 2024
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Denver
Where:
146.88- 100Hz
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Description:
Tuesday night repeater net
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General Repeater Information
Harley I know you have provided lots of information on the repeaters, what is linked to what, etc. in the past but would you be willing to provide another presentation on the repeaters?? There?has?been several?emails?recently talking about the repeaters, offers to help, and lots of questions.? I was thinking that if you are willing to do so could you do that for the meeting in November?? This might be great timing.? Thank you. 73 Ronnie? AI7DK
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Thank you Spencer. In addition to the maintenance aspect, it would be helpful to understand the repeater network in general - who owns or leases and from whom etc. How & who to go to for access ?& how the nationwide network ties together.?Being less than a year into the ham world, personally, I don¡¯t understand how the repeater networks operate.?
Before I stepped in as treasurer, a comment was made by an officer that the club needed to pay$1200 annually for one of the repeaters. Some quick math @$25 pp for club members, the club would be well shy for that one item alone - which is how the topic of grants came into focus. I would have been happy to pursue a grant for rent, repairs, new equipment etc.? ?So, in addition to current maintenance, are there other long term considerations? Who holds the leases? How long do they run through? ?As you mentioned the repeaters have been operational for decades, finding funding if necessary is not a short process and it would be great if people understood and could help.?
I¡¯ve seen at the bottom of posted meeting minutes that donations can be made to the repeater networks but it¡¯s never been mentioned at a meeting. Perhaps some of the other newer members would benefit from a repeater overview as well.?
At the last meeting it was announced that Harley was going to give an overview of the repeater systems but instead we got tied up with the logistics of use of the SAR building for meetings. It would be great if we could have the repeater network be a topic at one of the meetings!?
Thank you!
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On Oct 7, 2024, at 12:27?PM, Spencer KJ7SSS via groups.io <spencershuman@...> wrote:
? Good afternoon all,
?
The recent 82 repeater maintenance threads got me thinking about to manage the amazing network of repeaters that we have in this area, and how delicate our network really is. As such, I would like to propose a potential method to disperse the workload, and more importantly, the knowledge about each of these repeaters.
?
As we all know, Harley Leach has been spearheading the repeater maintenance for the past several years (decades...), and has reached out to the club numerous times asking for help. Personally, I feel a little overwhelmed offering up my assistance, because I really don't know what each repeater looks like, what it is made of, and how they work. What I would first like to work on is writing down and organizing all of the repeaters' data into one, secure, accessible location, of which my first thought would be on the Groups.io page.
?
Groups.io has a way to incorporate a wiki into our page (I don't have write access, but it is at the bottom of the page), and I think that would be a great way to store the information for each one of these repeaters. It can be locked down so only members can see the information, and we can continually add to the wiki as things are fixed.
?
I am willing to spearhead this data collection and organization, as well as help as much as possible in the actual repeater maintenance, but I will need significant help and guidance in gathering the information, as well as some updated permissions in the Groups.io so I can make edits to the wiki. Please feel free to reach out with any questions, comments, or concerns you might have with this project, and until then, 73's.
?
Spencer Shuman - KJ7SSS
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Enjoy the day!
Sue D.
KK7RYG
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Good afternoon all,
?
The recent 82 repeater maintenance threads got me thinking about to manage the amazing network of repeaters that we have in this area, and how delicate our network really is. As such, I would like to propose a potential method to disperse the workload, and more importantly, the knowledge about each of these repeaters.
?
As we all know, Harley Leach has been spearheading the repeater maintenance for the past several years (decades...), and has reached out to the club numerous times asking for help. Personally, I feel a little overwhelmed offering up my assistance, because I really don't know what each repeater looks like, what it is made of, and how they work. What I would first like to work on is writing down and organizing all of the repeaters' data into one, secure, accessible location, of which my first thought would be on the Groups.io page.
?
Groups.io has a way to incorporate a wiki into our page (I don't have write access, but it is at the bottom of the page), and I think that would be a great way to store the information for each one of these repeaters. It can be locked down so only members can see the information, and we can continually add to the wiki as things are fixed.
?
I am willing to spearhead this data collection and organization, as well as help as much as possible in the actual repeater maintenance, but I will need significant help and guidance in gathering the information, as well as some updated permissions in the Groups.io so I can make edits to the wiki. Please feel free to reach out with any questions, comments, or concerns you might have with this project, and until then, 73's.
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Spencer Shuman - KJ7SSS
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GHRC October 3, 2024 Business Meeting and Presentation
Not sure that this email went through so sending again.? Sorry for any confusion. Ronnie ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ronnie Woods <rlw.flyfish@...>Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 8:50?PM Subject: GHRC October 3, 2024 Business Meeting and Presentation To: Groups.io < [email protected]> Cc: John Portune < w6nbcmail@...> 73 to everyone This month we will be having a presentation by John Portune - W6NBC.? We have had John give antenna design presentations twice over the last 3 years and each one shows John's innovativeness and outside the box thinking.? John's career was in the technical side of broadcast television, principally for KNBC channel 4 Los Angeles, Ampex Corporation Redwood City CA, Sony Electronics, San Jose, CA as a technical instructor/writer. John retired in 2002 which provides him more time for all his other interests which includes assisting new licensees, local 2M mobile, and 40M mobile as a part of RVing.? He does a log of rag chewing from his home station, preferring regular?nets and he manages a remote HF/VHF base station on Vandenberg AFB.? John also has written several articles?for QST and other ham publications. And of course John's insatiable interest in antenna design.? If you would like to take a peek at his website I think you would find it very interesting especially if you are into home brewing antennas.? His site is .? Once at his site scroll down to the bottom of the page and there is a link that takes you to his presentations and detailed articles.
I was looking as usual at John's website and saw something that I thought might be of interest to most everyone.? It was?" Inflatable Magnetic Loop Antenna for Mountain Toppers, RVers and other Temporary and Portable Operations".? High-efficiency experimental 10-40m fold-up, blow-up magnetic loop light enough to backpack to a mountain top made from a mountain bike inner tube and electrically conductive fabric.
This will be John's presentation that I hope will peak your interest.? Our business meeting starts at 1900 MDT with the presentation starting at 1930.MDT? John's presentation will last between 30 and 45 minutes.? Meeting will be at the SAR Building in Bozeman and hope you can make the meeting but if you can't please find the Zoom Meeting link below that will get you to the meeting. Take care - be safe CU soon 73 Ronnie? AI7DK
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Reminder: 88 repeater net
When:
Tuesday, October 1, 2024
8:00pm to 9:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Denver
Where:
146.88- 100Hz
View Event
Description:
Tuesday night repeater net
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When:
Thursday, October 3, 2024
7:00pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Denver
Where:
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Arrive early for informal chit-chat.
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Re: MOBILE/PORTABLE ANTENNA EXPO
Pat(rick) KK7KGP and I (Carol KA7ROL) enjoyed the Antenna?Event enormously since we happen to be studying antennas at this time! It was a real treat to see James Ericson's (W7EY) Hex in action -- especially with young boys on bikes who threw them down to try to activate (and they did with Amsterdam) with Eric. It was a real treat to see Mat's (AA7VG) Delta Loop assembled by Sally alongside Matt's Harbor Freight box/case that housed all the accessories. We took a photo of Eric's and Stacy's Rez coil with a 17' whip (we are not living in an HOA!). The Off Center Fed Dipole in inverted V was visible, but, sorry!, we are probably gonna buy?that awesome Rex coil! Recently Carol's 20-year old vehicle was hit by an insured driver. The vehicle is in a repair?shop at this time. When the vehicle is out-of-repair, doncha think it is ready for a mobile radio? Pat does! Carol KA7ROL
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 8:36?AM Carol KA7ROL via <flaherty.66= [email protected]> wrote:
Nice meeting everyone this weekend.? Thank you to those who brought out equipment.? I appreciated the power of the beam antenna and was particularly impressed witnessing the sixty mile simplex contact!? I would join for a future mobile event of this type again.? Thanks for organizing, Stacy.??
Cheers, Sam, K7COG
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Carol B Flaherty KA7ROL
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...Make sure whatever you get is Lithium IRON Phosphate, not Lithium Ion.
Just to clarify, the term "Lithium ion" is generic and used to describe approximately a dozen different battery chemistries that are based on the use of Lithium metal.? It's important to choose a chemistry that meets the performance and safety parameters for your specific usage.? For instance a large, home battery backup system might use a Lithium¨Cnickel¨Cmanganese¨Ccobalt oxides (NMC) but a small, portable battery would be better served by a Lithium¨Ciron¨Cphosphate battery (LFP) or?Lithium-ion polymer battery (LiPo) chemistry.
Sam, K7COG??
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Re: MOBILE/PORTABLE ANTENNA EXPO
Nice meeting everyone this weekend.? Thank you to those who brought out equipment.? I appreciated the power of the beam antenna and was particularly impressed witnessing the sixty mile simplex contact!? I would join for a future mobile event of this type again.? Thanks for organizing, Stacy.??
Cheers, Sam, K7COG
-- Carol B Flaherty KA7ROL
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Re: MOBILE/PORTABLE ANTENNA EXPO
Nice meeting everyone this weekend.? Thank you to those who brought out equipment.? I appreciated the power of the beam antenna and was particularly impressed witnessing the sixty mile simplex contact!? I would join for a future mobile event of this type again.? Thanks for organizing, Stacy.??
Cheers, Sam, K7COG
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I have the same radio you do. ?I use the Bioenno Power, ,Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery, 12V 20Ah, 240 Watt-hours, P/N BLF-1220A (PVC pack). ?20A max continuous discharge current, 40 Amp max pack discharge current. ?As far as what batteries can be transported on the airlines, go to EACH airline's battery regulations. ?For the most part they are close to the same but each has a bugaboo. ?It's not as restrictive as one would fear. ?That's why so many hams can travel with all their gear AND battery. ?So if you use a particular airline regularly, look up their regulations. ?My battery is big and heavy. ?There are lighter, lower V/Ah batteries available by Bioenno. ?Make sure whatever you get is Lithium IRON Phosphate, not Lithium Ion.
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Bioenno, one in the vehicle, one in the shack. Size as required.?
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On Sep 29, 2024, at 2:08?PM, Matt AA7VG via groups.io <matthew.l.carlson@...> wrote:
? I used Dakota Lithium 10 AH 12v batteries for my air travel.? They meet the TSA requirements as long as you keep them in a carry-on bag.
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https://dakotalithium.com/product/dakota-lithium-12v-10ah-battery/
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I used Dakota Lithium 10 AH 12v batteries for my air travel.? They meet the TSA requirements as long as you keep them in a carry-on bag.
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https://dakotalithium.com/product/dakota-lithium-12v-10ah-battery/
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After the Portable Antenna Expo I have been on a autodidactic quest of which battery (power source) would be best, especially for traveling by air. Any and all constructive comments to help me in the journey down this rabbit trail will be appreciated.?
I would love to hear what did work for you, as well as, what did not work so good. Rationales for your choice is important to me as it helps me understand the overall system more completely.?
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I have Yaesu FT 991. I am considering a different radio that would weight less, and as dummy proof as the 991. What radio would you recommend?
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Re: MOBILE/PORTABLE ANTENNA EXPO
What a great event! Thank you all who shared your knowledge and tips. I definitely gained from the experience. Unfortunately, my wallet is going to suffer. lol Looking forward to meeting this Thursday and Ham coffee time Oct 5.?
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Re: MOBILE/PORTABLE ANTENNA EXPO
Thank YOU Stacy and Eric for coordinating!? Wouldn¡¯t have happened without you. I only caught the last bit but the antennas and set-ups were awesome. ?Helpful to see things in action!?
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On Sep 29, 2024, at 9:33?AM, Stacy KK7CJV via groups.io <stroscoe2001@...> wrote:
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First of all, thank you to all who participated in the Mobile/Portable Antenna Expo!? James (W7EY) brought his BuddiHEX Hex beam system.? I learned so much from helping assemble and erect the hex beam!? Later Eric (KE7NLU) and James activated the park (US-4572 Lewis & Clark National Historic Trail) for POTA from Bogert Park. They were able to put 20 QSO¡¯s in the log while enjoying conversations with local hams. A group of hams from the Capital City Amateur Radio Club were camping at Duck Creek Campground at the southern end of Canyon Ferry.? They were able to make contact with Bill (N7MSI) on 146.52.? As the crow flies, it was 58.9 miles contact on simplex! ?Some curious kids in the park came over and Eric helped them make a contact with the Duck Creek crew. ?Matt (AA7VG) brought out his Chameleon MPAS Lite antenna kit that can be set-up in a multitude of configurations.? Sally (KJ7WFN) demonstrated how easy it was to setup the antenna in a Delta Loop configuration.? Matt also showed us his Harbor Freight case build with the Pelican accessory pouch insert that fit perfectly in the lid and kept all the accessories neatly organized. ?Matt also showed the Armolok pack frame installed on his Yaesu 891.? We brought our ultimate GoBox build with a Yaesu 991 and the smaller GoBox with the Yaesu 891 with solar panels charging. We brought the Spiderbeam Off-Center Dipole (40-10 meter) in an inverted V configuration with the homemade drive on antenna holder and the new to us Rez coil with 17¡¯whip and radials (80-10 meter).? I also proudly displayed the clean install Eric did of the Yaesu 2980 in the F-150. ?Steve (KE1HO) and I had great conversation about the Yaesu ATAS-120A.? He showed me his solution for getting the 40meter band to tune on that particular antenna-radials. It was a beautiful day to be out in a park playing radio. ?It was a fun time conversing with our fellow hams and viewing a multitude of antenna systems.
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Sue D.
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Carol KA7ROL
Spencer KJ7SSS
Ronnie ai7dk
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Robin KJ7VVo
Matt AA7VG
Sally KJ7WFN