Re: Harley's Presentation on Repeaters November 7, 2024
Hey, Harley,
Last night's presentation was awesome! ?I really appreciated learning about the connecting and disconnecting of the Intermountain link. ?Your years of experience, your unfathomable knowledge and skill are well appreciated. ?I know I speak for everyone when I say you are so appreciated.
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Robin JK7VVO
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Harley's Presentation on Repeaters November 7, 2024
Please use the link below along with the passcode to view the presentation that Harley did this evening.? Thanks for attending.? Hope you found this information valuable like I did.? Let me know if you have any trouble opening.? Tnx for attending.? Take care - Be safe - 73 Ronnie AI7DK
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Reminder: 88 repeater net
When:
Tuesday, November 5, 2024
8:00pm to 9:00pm
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Reminder: Club Meeting
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73 to all again Please don't forget about the GHRC Meeting this Thursday, 11/7/2024 at the SAR Building in Bozeman.? The business meeting will start at 1900 MST with the presentation starting approximately at 1930.? Harley has graciously agreed to do the presentation on the repeater systems, who is responsible for which system, status, history, what is linked to what, and answer all your questions pertaining to the repeaters.? So please bring your questions and look forward to seeing you at the club meeting.? Hopefully everyone can be there in person but if you can't please use the Zoom Meeting link below to participate.? I look forward to the meeting and learning more from Harley. Take care - Be safe CU Soon Ronnie? Ai7DK
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Hi Carol,?
You are right, I was incorrect, the times are 10am 1/25/25 to 2:59pm 1/26/25. It's the 4th full weekend in January?
Thanks,?
Spencer
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Spencer,
You probably looked at a 2024 calendar for dates.
For a 2025 Winter Field Day dates and times should be revised, do you agree?, to:
10:00 a.m. 1/24/2025 (Friday) to 2:59 p.m. 1/25/2025 (Saturday).
Carol KA7ROL
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 1:58?PM Spencer KJ7SSS via
<spencershuman= [email protected]> wrote:
A new poll has been created:
Hey all!
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I wanted to gauge interest in participating in Winter Field Day (WFD) 2025. Dates and times are 10am 1/26/25 to 2:59pm 1/27/25. Are you interested in coming out for some, or all of the event?
1. Plan on camping Friday and Saturday nights
2. Plan on camping Saturday night only
3. Plan on participating on Saturday
4. Plan on participating on Sunday
5. Do not plan on participating with the club
Click Here To Vote
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Spencer, You probably looked at a 2024 calendar for dates. For a 2025 Winter Field Day dates and times should be revised, do you agree?, to: 10:00 a.m. 1/24/2025 (Friday) to 2:59 p.m. 1/25/2025 (Saturday). Carol KA7ROL
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 1:58?PM Spencer KJ7SSS via <spencershuman= [email protected]> wrote:
A new poll has been created:
Hey all!
?
I wanted to gauge interest in participating in Winter Field Day (WFD) 2025. Dates and times are 10am 1/26/25 to 2:59pm 1/27/25. Are you interested in coming out for some, or all of the event?
1. Plan on camping Friday and Saturday nights
2. Plan on camping Saturday night only
3. Plan on participating on Saturday
4. Plan on participating on Sunday
5. Do not plan on participating with the club
Click Here To Vote
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Good afternoon all,
?
I just posted a poll regarding Winter Field Day for 2025. If there is enough interest, I would propose that we reach out to Headwaters State Park and see if we can stay there like we did 2 years ago. We will need to fill out a special event form and let the ranger know how many people will be participating and/or camping. There will be a fee ($15/night if I remember right) for campers.
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If there is enough interest, I am happy to utilize my radio as the club station. Not sure I want to drag the club trailer or try driving t-stakes into the ground in January :). I have a wall tent and a stove, so it'll be at least above freezing!
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Please respond to the poll, I'll send out some updates over the next couple of weeks so we can get a good idea if this is something we would like to pursue.
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Thanks!
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Spencer - KJ7SSS
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Hey all!
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I wanted to gauge interest in participating in Winter Field Day (WFD) 2025. Dates and times are 10am 1/26/25 to 2:59pm 1/27/25. Are you interested in coming out for some, or all of the event?
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Reminder: 88 repeater net
When:
Tuesday, October 29, 2024
8:00pm to 9:00pm
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Where:
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Reminder: 88 repeater net
When:
Tuesday, October 22, 2024
8:00pm to 9:00pm
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Tuesday night repeater net
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Re: THE GREAT MONTANA SHAKE OUT
Old guys love to share stories, so I can tell mine.? I was a 5-year-old when the 1959 earthquake hit SW Mt. We lived on the corner of Babcock and 10th (now the Urgent Care parking lot), and our old juniper still stands on the corner. Back then our two radio
stations, KXXL and KBMN, both gave news on the hour but they didn't have much to report first thing that morning¡ªthey only reported that an earthquake had occurred.? We only received one TV channel in Bozeman (KXLF Butte) but it had no news when it signed
on at 7AM (it signed off nightly at midnight), so no-one knew quite what had happened, or the extent of damage.? My mother's formal china was on a display shelf in our kitchen that had collapsed, and she was an unhappy lady that morning picking up the pieces.
A couple of framed photos on the walls had fallen to the floor and were broken. My dad (who later became N7HEU)? did a house inspection and learned that our chimney had a big crack that would need to be repaired. My mother put my brother and me into the tub
for our morning bath and the water was swishing from side to side. To our delight our rubber ducks were very active. The MSU fieldhouse was under construction at the time and the neighbors were all questioning if it had survived. Dad decided to drive up to
see if it had collapsed. He bundled the whole family into our Nash Rambler, and we drove up to campus.? We parked across 11th street at the chicken farm (now the site of Bridger Brewing and MSU alumni buildings). He did a walkaround and couldn't see any structural
damage, so we returned home to report to the neighbors. I don't think the news outlets were able to learn exactly what happened for a day or two because there was no communication or access in or out of West Yellowstone.? The roads in every direction had deep
and broad cracks and were impassable.? Power and telephone were out in the town.? I learned years later that several local hams were able to get to West Yellowstone with equipment and provided initial reports and communication to the outside world.? ?
I suppose the upshot is that southern Gallatin County is on a major fault line and located in a volcanic caldera. The Bozeman/Three Forks areas also sit on large fault lines.? ?
Jim? WA7MKN
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We had great participation with the Shakeout!? 8 stations checked into the Earthquake Emergency net on 146.58 from the Gallatin valley.? I am including a map generated on HAMRS and then a link to a Google map of all the participants and their locations.?
I see a need for more drills to get a bigger sampling of hams and their capabilities in our area and to give opportunity to those who could not participate today.??
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Also if anyone was in the Bozeman area when the 1959 earthquake happened, we would love to hear of your memories and stories from that fateful night.? So please share what your experiences were with all of us.
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Thank you to all who participated!
Stacy-KK7CJV
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Re: THE GREAT MONTANA SHAKE OUT
We had great participation with the Shakeout!? 8 stations checked into the Earthquake Emergency net on 146.58 from the Gallatin valley.? I am including a map generated on HAMRS and then a link to a Google map of all the participants and their locations.? I see a need for more drills to get a bigger sampling of hams and their capabilities in our area and to give opportunity to those who could not participate today.??
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Also if anyone was in the Bozeman area when the 1959 earthquake happened, we would love to hear of your memories and stories from that fateful night.? So please share what your experiences were with all of us.
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Thank you to all who participated!
Stacy-KK7CJV
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Hi Carolyn, we will certainly get your payment and process that and appreciate it! Thanks
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On Oct 16, 2024, at 11:16?AM, Carolyn kf7yus via groups.io <cjoanchips@...> wrote:
? Harley,
I sent a $20.00 payment through PayPal to Gallatin Ham Radio Club. I want to make sure you got it and I am now included on the list of participants. ?Thanks!
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73 KF7YUS Carolyn
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Harley,
I sent a $20.00 payment through PayPal to Gallatin Ham Radio Club. I want to make sure you got it and I am now included on the list of participants. ?Thanks!
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73 KF7YUS Carolyn
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Reminder: 88 repeater net
When:
Tuesday, October 15, 2024
8:00pm to 9:00pm
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Where:
146.88- 100Hz
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Description:
Tuesday night repeater net
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Re: Sue's Antenna Project
It will be good to hear from you Walt.?
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Nice job on the antenna. How high is it??
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Re: 82 Repeater Work Plan
thanks all of you for your dedication
kc7ewz don wilson
Thanks to everyone who got 82 on the air.
Larry KF7L
Trevor kg7kcv via wrote on 10/12/2024 7:16 PM:
82 is back on air and linked to 88!!
Big big thanks to Harley, Dan and Gus!!
We only have 200 amp hours of battery, but we will see
how it holds up. Hopefully, with a more efficient solar controller and
new AGM batteries, we will make it through the winter. In addition,
power wiring has been simplified and upgraded.?
Several dollars, and at minimum, a combined 100
amateur time units have been put towards getting this machine up just
before access to the site becomes very difficult until this coming
June.?
Currently
audio is going from 72 to 82, but not the other direction.
I apologize for not providing any pictures, but I
forgot my phone in the truck today. :(
-KG7KCV
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Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 8:37?PM Trevor kg7kcv via
<trevlanes= [email protected]> wrote: Good News! Harley has had a chance to go over the repeater
components and give the system a tune up in addition? to needed repairs.
Thanks Harley!!!
We will be bringing the machine
back up on Saturday.
-KG7KCV
On Mon, Sep 16,
2024 at 6:41?PM Dan kk7fdp via <mr.danrpoole= [email protected]> wrote: Oh, yeah Trevor
had us drive a few miles further for better views of all the great
mountains Almost 30 miles round trip ..?Really great weather. Big Fun
BR Trail Road makes it easy to navigate to the site.
After trailhead and up is 50" limit
but 4x4 truck is fine up to T/H
Lots of great parks and terrain
up there for snowmobiles
TNX Dan,
I was trying to find the repeater site
on Google Earth but have only been by there a few dozen times on
snowmobile many years ago. Zooming in and following the trail, as I
remember it, did not work. I did see the trail head which did not exist
then and your aprs beacon. You were way over west by that time and
coming back.
Cheers
Dan KK7FDP via
wrote on 9/16/2024 5:30 PM:
Thanks, Larry.
That is good to know
I will go look at the track
It was not our usual trail
Cheers
Dan
your? 878 aprs was working fine on Buck
Ridge.
Larry KF7L
Trevor kg7kcv via
wrote on 9/15/2024
6:07 PM:
Thanks Stacy! Hopefully our
roofing subject matter
expert can weigh in on needed materials. Not sure who that is yet :)
We
took a trip up to the 82 site with new AGM batteries and a programmable
MPPT controller. Existing batteries were all at 0.0 volts.?
With
new batteries installed and controller installed, I missed a crucial
change in the wiring color standard on the load side of the solar
controller. Long story short, I let the magic smoke out of
several?components of the repeater. I did everything I could to follow
the wiring and check polarity at each junction but missed at one spot.
We have hauled all the equipment back down to be looked over.?
I
will work on cleaning up and standardizing the wiring, making it very
easy for anyone to decipher and diagnose with fuse blocks, connectorized
disconnects and coherent colors.
Hopefully our
electronics guru Harley can find something easy to repair and we can
get the system back to the top of the mountain before the road is
impassable?on wheels.
Thanks to Dan for
transportation services and to Norm for his company and extra set of
hands.
I am very sorry to have created
additional issues at this site, but I do believe that when we are
finished, the 82 will be better and more?reliable than ever.
-Trevor
KG7KCV
On Sun, Sep
15, 2024 at 12:30?PM Stacy KK7CJV via
<stroscoe2001= [email protected]>
wrote: Trevor,?
I have a roll of tar paper I
would like to donate to the roof project. Still cleaning shop so I may
find a couple bundles of shingles-I would like to donate them as well.
Please let us know after the site survey what would be needed for
repairs. Thanks? Stacy
KK7CJV? On Sep 14,
2024, at 11:26?AM, Trevor kg7kcv <trevlanes@...>
wrote:
? I am working on getting batteries and MPPT controller today.
Dan and Trevor will be meeting at 4corners 9am tomorrow (sunday) to head
up to the site to get things started. Harley is not available?this
weekend, but if anyone would like to tag along and has means to get to
the top of the ridge, all are welcome. Again, the road is restricted?50"
vehicles. Its a great ride on a motorcylce too! If you want to continue
to the top, there is a great view at the end of the road another 8 or
ten miles up.
I can be reached at 570-5672 On Fri, Sep 13,
2024 at 6:48?PM Trevor kg7kcv via
<trevlanes= [email protected]>
wrote: I think we had a meaningful and constructive conversation
regarding repeater work and maintenance last night. Harley is burdened
by the number of repeaters under him, needs help,?and will be
letting?the?club/community know how we can all be involved and of use.
We have plenty of folks that want to volunteer and have offered help in
the past. We would all like to be in the loop regarding what needs to be
done, where it needs to be done, and what's currently being worked on
so?we can be of service and learn the systems.??
Hopefully
Harley can help put together a list of other repeaters in despair and
work that needs to take place. He mentioned there are 13 repeaters he
takes responsibility for. I'm not sure how we organize and prioritize
these.? Any documentation?on site access and repeater
configuration?would?be greatly appreciated and very useful to organize
help.
Long Term Plan for the .82 / Buck Ridge
Repeater:
-Building needs a roof. We had
volunteers?ready to do the work, but never got the work scheduled. I
will bump that?email chain. This will need to happen in June when the
road opens back up to wheeled traffic. Road is restricted to 50"
vehicles. -Separate?non-profit and for-profit power systems,
while maintaining good relations with commercial site users. We will
still provide our services and collaborate. -New batteries.
Not recycled batteries. ERA has room in the budget for this. I
recommend?AGM. QTY to be determined. I would like to start with around
200ah. -Determine power requirements for both systems by
measuring idle and transmit current. -Reconfigure existing
solar panels in series to minimize current loss on the lengthy?12
gauge?wiring. -Add MPPT Solar controller?to utilize high
voltage from new panel arrangement?and provide low volt disconnect to
protect battery investment.? ? ? ?I had previously offered a
modern controller, but the PWM got used instead. I have already ordered
another. Hopefully 20a will carry our system. New controller can provide
historical data for solar and load. -Determine if higher
gauge?wire can be pulled through existing underground conduit. -Consider
Bi-facial solar panels to make better use of vertically oriented panels
at this site if funds become available.
Weather
and time depending, this weekend I may try to make a quick motorcycle
or ATV trip up to get some preliminary notes and data.
There
will be more to this thread as information becomes available. This
could also be a useful thread to organize and track progress and
volunteers for the 82.
Here is the controller I
will provide:
I
can get these batteries for 50$ off retail:
These
can get for 98$:
? My
corporate rate unfortunately cuts the warranty in half, so that will
need to be considered.
Thanks
for everyone's time and input. -Trevor KG7KCV
On Thu, Sep 12,
2024 at 9:50?AM Ronnie ai7dk via
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wrote: 73 to everyone Please find the zoom meeting invitation
for
this evening at 1830 MDT to discuss a plan to go forward on the 82
repeater work.? If you have any questions on the invitation please feel
free to give me a call at (704) 806 - 8609.? Look forward to seeing you
later. Ronnie AI7DK
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Re: Eric's Crossband Repeater
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
Check CFR 47 Part 97 201B.? Remote bases must be controlled by 2m or above. There must be a control operator at the remote base point.? Seems like both are met.? HF is being remoted all the time via internet. However radio control must be on 2m or higher per the rules - or so it seems.
K7NM - Lee Barrett ?I don't know how you're doing it but legally crossband repeaters cannot be any kind of permanent setup, only temporary short-term, and they cannot cause interference in any way. On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 13:42, Frank kd4oty How do I use it??? KD4OTY
On Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 1:08 PM Stacy KK7CJV via <stroscoe2001= [email protected]> wrote: We began our ham journey in the mountains outside of Townsend where we had no cell coverage.? Eric who was licensed, setup a radio and antenna and found the Belmont repeater.? On Sundays, while we were finishing our work for the day and cooking dinner, we would listen to AJ7MT's Trivia, Trivia, Trivia!? Eric, having the only callsign in the household at that time, called into the Trivia with our answer.? We enjoyed playing trivia on Sunday nights with the other hams in the Helena and surrounding area during the months we put the Townsend house back together.? Our Townsend house project finished and we moved back into the Bozeman property but missed playing trivia.? Then came Eric's mastermind.? He put up a beam pointed at the Belmont Repeater that is located West, Northwest of Helena.? Great signal reports into Helena!? Next he built and installed a crossband repeater so he could be anywhere on the Bozeman property and communicate with our friends in Helena with just a handheld in his pocket.? Others in the Bozeman/Belgrade area began playing trivia with us as we mentioned the crossband repeater and the great time we were having with John's (AJ7MT) trivia.? John does a phenomenal job with the trivia game!? So much fun!??
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While a ham in Belgrade and another in Gallatin Heights were playing trivia, we noticed the ham located 'in front' of the beam was able to be heard very well, while the ham located behind the beam (or on the backside of the beam) had less of a signal and wasn't as clear.? Hmm, So off to the drawing board.? Eric built and installed a Colinear antenna for the receive signals.? After the Colinear antenna install, the next trivia both stations were able to be heard clear and much better!? We have tested the reception all around Bozeman and Gallatin valley.? We are inviting you all to use the Crossband and give us any and all feedback.? John (AJ7MT) does a really great job providing an hour of fun family entertainment!? Join us playing trivia Sunday nights from 7:30-8:30. The frequency for the Crossband Repeater is 446.75 with a PL Tone 100 (no offset).?
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And again, let us know your experiences and feedback.? Thank you!
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73, KK7CJV
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Ronnie ai7dk
Harley ki7xf
Spencer KJ7SSS
Carol KA7ROL
Stacy KK7CJV
Carolyn kf7yus
Sally KJ7WFN