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Re: JLCPCB Price Increase
I think the $800 is the current exclusion amount. I think it was less when passed. Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 09:04:24 AM EDT, John Lonigro via groups.io <jonigro@...> wrote:
If the $800 in 1930 were adjusted for inflation, it would cover most
cars in 2025! john, AA0VE On 4/11/25 07:48, jjpurdum via
groups.io wrote:
As someone else pointed out,
the de minimis provision of Section 321 of
the Tariff Act of 1930 exempts the first $800 of an
order. David Cripe, who lead the T41 effort by 4SQRP found
that out the hard way. If they had shipped the assembled
boards in multiple small lots, they would have saved almost
$4,000!
Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 07:13:21 AM EDT, Greg
KF5N via groups.io
<greg.electricity@...> wrote:
I checked PCBWay this morning and the price
hasn't changed.? But I assume that price does not
include the US import duty.
I'm ordering PCBs soon, so I am going to find out. ?
--
73 Greg KF5N
-- Jack, W8TEE -- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: The T41 from 4SQRP and V11 boards.
All: Agree. Most people probably aren't aware of and don't appreciate the effort David (NG0S), Ron (AG1P, SK), and the others at 4SQRP put into the T41 Project. The inventory/holding costs were a huge financial burden on the group and Ron kitted the bags of parts and, given his health, I'm sure it was a monumental burden on him. Greg (KF5N) made Herculean contributions to the software from the outset and went on to make changes to the boards themselves. I think most people are aware of the largess provided to the project by Dr. Bill Schmidt (K9HZ) in providing boards at cost plus the improved PA design. Oliver King (KI3P) has made major improvements in the software as well as the design/layout of the PCB plus some really nice images of the board layout. We now have over 3200+ members on the T41 site and many have made improvements/suggestions that have nudged the Project to its current state. I finally have my new system to the point where I can test the current state of the software and Oliver has that in great shape. Al and I have finished the last update to the book and it now appears that Amazon is shipping the new updated version of the book. You can tell if you have the final version by looking at the cover. It should look like: and have a new chapter at the end of the book (Chapter 20, Calibration). Like some of you, I ordered copies for Al and I to review and they sent the wrong edition. (If this happened to you, it is very easy to return them.) Al is turning over the design to Bill and I'm handing off the software to Oliver going forward. Oliver will hold our last software release on Github (without future forks), plus a second release specifically for debugging/enhancements. Al and I will continue to monitor this site, but will be more in the background. We plan on doing more operating, working on some new stuff, plus eating bon-bons and getting to know our XYLs! Alas, I didn't make enough from the Project's book to buy my Swiss chalet, but Al and I are pleased with the direction things are going. It's been fun... Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 03:48:02 AM EDT, Harry Brash via groups.io <harry.brash@...> wrote:
Jack
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I was interested to read Neville's comments re /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/message/33358
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I haven't used T41/V12 boards at all but, looking at the circuits, the V12 RX circuits seem almost identical to the V10/11 in every way that matters .? My experience of the V10 RX performance is very positive, similar to Neville's.? The main? changes I have made and experiments I have tried relate to the TX side of my T41/V10 rather than the RX,? ?I've (successfully) tried some of Greg's hardware mods by hacking my V10 QSE board which now has lots of cut tracks and extra solder links on it !
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I also use Greg's excellent T41EEE software.and have replaced the original T41 V10 PA by the K9HZ PA.
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By the way, I think Neville did his own thing building his T41 rather than building a 4SQRP kit.
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For me, T41 EP V10/V11 has been and remains a great project.
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Thanks.
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Harry? GM3RVL
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-- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: JLCPCB Price Increase
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIf the $800 in 1930 were adjusted for inflation, it would cover most cars in 2025!john, AA0VE On 4/11/25 07:48, jjpurdum via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: JLCPCB Price Increase
As someone else pointed out, the de minimis provision of Section 321 of the Tariff Act of 1930 exempts the first $800 of an order. David Cripe, who lead the T41 effort by 4SQRP found that out the hard way. If they had shipped the assembled boards in multiple small lots, they would have saved almost $4,000! Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 07:13:21 AM EDT, Greg KF5N via groups.io <greg.electricity@...> wrote:
I checked PCBWay this morning and the price hasn't changed.? But I assume that price does not include the US import duty.
I'm ordering PCBs soon, so I am going to find out. ?
--
73 Greg KF5N
-- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: The T41 from 4SQRP and V11 boards.
Jack
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I was interested to read Neville's comments re /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/message/33358
?
I haven't used T41/V12 boards at all but, looking at the circuits, the V12 RX circuits seem almost identical to the V10/11 in every way that matters .? My experience of the V10 RX performance is very positive, similar to Neville's.? The main? changes I have made and experiments I have tried relate to the TX side of my T41/V10 rather than the RX,? ?I've (successfully) tried some of Greg's hardware mods by hacking my V10 QSE board which now has lots of cut tracks and extra solder links on it !
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I also use Greg's excellent T41EEE software.and have replaced the original T41 V10 PA by the K9HZ PA.
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By the way, I think Neville did his own thing building his T41 rather than building a 4SQRP kit.
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For me, T41 EP V10/V11 has been and remains a great project.
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Thanks.
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Harry? GM3RVL
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Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
There is no electronic version. Every time I had an electronic version of a book, my royalties weren't enough to let me even Supersize my lunch. The torrent sites make it available free for the download. Trying to shut them down is simply a version of Whack-a-Mole; they pop up again within hours. My position is: If you download the book without paying for it and you read it and like it, then buy the book. So far, I think maybe two people have done that. Sadly, that's just the way things are... Jack, W8TEE
On Thursday, April 10, 2025 at 10:03:31 AM EDT, John Owens K1JO via groups.io <johnowenschina@...> wrote:
Can those of us (with proof) of purchasing the previous version, get an electronic version of the new Chapter 20? Just asking :)
-- Jack, W8TEE |
The T41 from 4SQRP and V11 boards.
All: Recent there was a negative post about the V11 boards and the T41 from 4SQRP. I got this private email from Neville Marr, ZL2BNE, who has been following the T41 from its inception. He has a T41 from 4SQRP and speaks positively about it. I asked him if I could re-post his email because I know there are a lot of 4SQRP radios out there and he wants everyone to know that it is a good radio that he uses on a regular basis. I, too, have a 4SQRP T41 and it is a very good radio. He gave me his okay to post his email. Jack, W8TEE =============== ? Hi Jack, We haven¡¯t communicated in quite some time but I continue to check-in on the softwarecontrolledhamradio group from time to time. I¡¯ve recently reviewed postings and one took my attention ¡ for the wrong reasons.? /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/message/33358 The post was pretty disparaging of the V11 receiver performance, among other things calling it an intolerable toy radio. I see no point in giving such posts oxygen on the forum but I felt a need to let you know my experience is totally different. You will recall I was an early adopter of the T41 project, I had V10 boards made and did my own thing. You will also recall I was quite critical of some aspects of the project. I always had issues with the transmit side of my V10 T41 but never the receive side. The receiver worked from day one. In my case I don¡¯t hear any noise on rx with a dummy load connected. I can easily hear my Marconi sig gen set as low as it will go at -127dBm. It¡¯s a very good receiver. Over time I made a number of hardware changes to my QSE, I built two filters of my own design, one follows the QSE the other follows the PA. Final transmit change is adopting the K9HZ PA. Today my radio works faultlessly using Greg¡¯s T41EEE. I got everything where I wanted and started logging contacts in August 2023. I¡¯m not much of an operator but do put my creations on the air. I¡¯ve just interrogated my log to discover I¡¯ve logged exactly 100 contacts using my T41. Quite a cool number. I¡¯ve had the T41 on the air more times than that, mainly local nets, but all the same 100 in the log. Below is a breakdown of the 100. I¡¯ve worked every continent except Africia (Africia is notoriously difficult to work from NZ, South Africia is the rarest DX from NZ). So thank you for getting the T41 up and running. I am a little sad that V10/11 got supplanted by V12 because V10/11 is a very good radio. I do hope people can get V12 to a place where V12 T41 are on the air too. My T41 is my go-to radio, my daily runner. ?Cheers, Neville ZL2BNE ? ? ? -- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
If I didn't have bad luck...
On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 11:35:34 PM EDT, Jim Pruitt WA7DUY via groups.io <jpruitt67@...> wrote:
Hello Jack. I ordered mine on Friday April 5.? It arrived Monday and does have the black T41 and chapter 20.? I was surprised that it contained no copyright page or data that I could find. Thank you. Jim Pruitt? WA7DUY? On Wed, Apr 9, 2025, 6:43 PM jjpurdum via <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:
-- Jim Pruitt WA7DUY -- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
Hello Jack. I ordered mine on Friday April 5.? It arrived Monday and does have the black T41 and chapter 20.? I was surprised that it contained no copyright page or data that I could find. Thank you. Jim Pruitt? WA7DUY? On Wed, Apr 9, 2025, 6:43 PM jjpurdum via <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:
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Jim Pruitt WA7DUY |
Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI will do the same.? I will be on the lookout for the new version. ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
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Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
I just returned mine by saying they sent the wrong book. I then told them about the new version with the new Chapter 20. They issued me a refund and I have to return it to Staples. Jack, W8TEE
On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:55:00 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:
Jack, Ahhhhgggg, Chapter 19 Enhancements, and NO Chapter 20!!!!!! But it does have a shiny cover showing ¡°Third Edition Includes V11 & V12¡± And without Chapter 20 would mean that who knows what they actually printed. ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
All: I ordered two copies for Al and I to review, and they sent me the old book, too. I will be sending mine back, too. When I order again, I'm going to tell them to make sure it has the new cover and Chapter 20, since the previous edition didn't have a Chapter 20. I have no idea what we wrong as the are advertising the new version. Jack, W8TEE Jack, I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th And it would appear to be the updated version. <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
--? Jack, W8TEE<PastedGraphic-1.tiff> -- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
That's what was on the old cover. Look at the new cover. It's not even the same T41...it's a black 3D printed case!
On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:55:00 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:
Jack, Ahhhhgggg, Chapter 19 Enhancements, and NO Chapter 20!!!!!! But it does have a shiny cover showing ¡°Third Edition Includes V11 & V12¡± And without Chapter 20 would mean that who knows what they actually printed. ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
All: I ordered two copies for Al and I to review, and they sent me the old book, too. I will be sending mine back, too. When I order again, I'm going to tell them to make sure it has the new cover and Chapter 20, since the previous edition didn't have a Chapter 20. I have no idea what we wrong as the are advertising the new version. Jack, W8TEE Jack, I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th And it would appear to be the updated version. <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
--? Jack, W8TEE<PastedGraphic-1.tiff> -- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJack,Ahhhhgggg, Chapter 19 Enhancements, and NO Chapter 20!!!!!! But it does have a shiny cover showing ¡°Third Edition Includes V11 & V12¡± And without Chapter 20 would mean that who knows what they actually printed. ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
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Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
Get your money back or have them send the correct one. Make sure to tell them they sent you the previous version, not the new one that went Live on the 4th. Jack, W8TEE
On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 04:53:37 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:
Jack, I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th And it would appear to be the updated version. ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
-- Jack, W8TEE |
Re: Updated 3rd Edition book NOT shipping from Amazon yet
All: I ordered two copies for Al and I to review, and they sent me the old book, too. I will be sending mine back, too. When I order again, I'm going to tell them to make sure it has the new cover and Chapter 20, since the previous edition didn't have a Chapter 20. I have no idea what we wrong as the are advertising the new version. Jack, W8TEE
On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 04:53:37 PM EDT, J P Watters via groups.io <jpwatters@...> wrote:
Jack, I ordered mine on April 4th, delivered on April 6th And it would appear to be the updated version. ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
-- Jack, W8TEE |
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