Re: OW Mobile - Request for feature
Hi Vince,
Is this iOS and Andrdoid app?
Can you provide a screenshot demonstrating the problem (On the majority of Android devices, you can press the volume down button and the power button together to take a screenshot.) and a specific event so I can look at it.
When you open an event, for example the below "Pavlov H Home (AU)", would be the actual name of the station you have submitted which should be different for your different locations.
Are you referring to this screen or a different screen? The list of events does not show the site names at the moment.
Hristo.
On Monday, November 8, 2021, 03:45:51 PM GMT+11, V Sempronio <vastronomy@...> wrote:
I am not sure if it because I'm doing something wrong in OW or if OW Mobile isn't providing what I want, but I would like the app to display the site name of the location I choose to observe from rather than what seems to be my search site location.
Example: I normally keep the search site set to my home location, but when ever there is an event that will travel too, I select it off the site selection in 'right mouse click' menu. But the app doesn't display that site name in the details, rather it shows my name and the word Home. I'm not sure where it is getting that from. I have over 20 sites stored as possible observing locations and when i open an event OW Mobile I would like to know where I planned to observe from, otherwise I'll have to go back into OW on my PC and check.
Vince
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OW Mobile - Request for feature
I am not sure if it because I'm doing something wrong in OW or if OW Mobile isn't providing what I want, but I would like the app to display the site name of the location I choose to observe from rather than what seems to be my search site location.
Example: I normally keep the search site set to my home location, but when ever there is an event that will travel too, I select it off the site selection in 'right mouse click' menu. But the app doesn't display that site name in the details, rather it shows my name and the word Home. I'm not sure where it is getting that from. I have over 20 sites stored as possible observing locations and when i open an event OW Mobile I would like to know where I planned to observe from, otherwise I'll have to go back into OW on my PC and check.
Vince
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Re: still another OW issue
Paul has adviced me that the missing event has reappeared after increasing the travel distance filter.
On Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 09:10:11 AM GMT+11, hristo_dpavlov via groups.io <hristo_dpavlov@...> wrote:
Hi Paul, everyone,
> Now when I check, the event has gone back into the list of new events and there are no stations showing up
I have not seen something like this exactly. There is logic in OW about handling duplicated events and sometimes when you add a station to one event, then click on the second (duplicated) one it will automatically move to My Events as well. But I have not seen stations disappearing and having to be re-added.
I can see your station on the server.
Has anyone seen the problem that Paul is reporting?
Thanks, Hristo.
On Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 05:59:39 AM GMT+11, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
Here is another problem. I signed up a couple of weeks ago for another event. I saw my station this morning on OW. Now when I check, the event has gone back into the list of new events and there are no stations showing up. I have never seen anything like this happening.? ?I just reselected it, reinserted my station and now it shows up in my upcoming events list.??See attached Vindobona event on Oct 28.?
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
On Monday, October 25, 2021, 10:16:55 AM MST, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
I have just reported the same Campania observation into OW a second time. I will wait and check later to see if it sticks.?
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
On Monday, October 25, 2021, 08:31:19 AM MST, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
Hristo, sorry to bother you with this. If you go to Steve Prestons site you will see this important event:
?
It appeared in OW some time ago and I signed up for a site. Today that event is gone out of my selected events list and does not even appear in the unselected events. Any explanation as to what I can do to restore it?
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
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Re: still another OW issue
Hi Paul, everyone,
> Now when I check, the event has gone back into the list of new events and there are no stations showing up
I have not seen something like this exactly. There is logic in OW about handling duplicated events and sometimes when you add a station to one event, then click on the second (duplicated) one it will automatically move to My Events as well. But I have not seen stations disappearing and having to be re-added.
I can see your station on the server.
Has anyone seen the problem that Paul is reporting?
Thanks, Hristo.
On Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 05:59:39 AM GMT+11, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
Here is another problem. I signed up a couple of weeks ago for another event. I saw my station this morning on OW. Now when I check, the event has gone back into the list of new events and there are no stations showing up. I have never seen anything like this happening.? ?I just reselected it, reinserted my station and now it shows up in my upcoming events list.??See attached Vindobona event on Oct 28.?
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
On Monday, October 25, 2021, 10:16:55 AM MST, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
I have just reported the same Campania observation into OW a second time. I will wait and check later to see if it sticks.?
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
On Monday, October 25, 2021, 08:31:19 AM MST, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
Hristo, sorry to bother you with this. If you go to Steve Prestons site you will see this important event:
?
It appeared in OW some time ago and I signed up for a site. Today that event is gone out of my selected events list and does not even appear in the unselected events. Any explanation as to what I can do to restore it?
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
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Re: still another OW issue
Hi Paul, everyone,
I don't understand why your event may have disappared from OW. Has anyone else seens similar issues?
Hristo.
On Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 02:31:24 AM GMT+11, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
Hristo, sorry to bother you with this. If you go to Steve Prestons site you will see this important event:
?
It appeared in OW some time ago and I signed up for a site. Today that event is gone out of my selected events list and does not even appear in the unselected events. Any explanation as to what I can do to restore it?
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
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Re: my report disappeared from OW
Hi Paul, everyone,
I assume the event is (377)Campania occulting UCAC4491001574-20211025:
where you reported a 10.3 sec occultation. I see your report on the server as well as it is displayed above.
Has anyone seen their reports disappearing from their OW?
Currently there is an issue that some multple predictions of the same event (one agains a Gaia star) are not correctly recognized as the same event and stations of other people may not show up on the event you may have signed up, but ths particular event is not affected.
Has anyone seen anything wrong with the reporting functionality as reported by Paul?
Hristo.
On Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 01:49:30 AM GMT+11, PAUL MALEY <pdmaley@...> wrote:
This morning I observed and reported an occultation by 377 Campania. I interrogated the station sorts and saw my report.? 2 hours later I look now and that field is empty but the other observer shows Observed. Report to... as in my earlier email.? I have never seen my report disappear.
Paul
Paul D. Maley?
Carefree, Arizona USA
email: pdmaley@...
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Re: Cartes du Ciel add-in for OW
Hi Carlos,
I copied Grzegorz, the author of the add-in, in case he can provide some gudance.
It looks like Cartes du Ciel has done something really nasty here denying to start if you run it as an admin. While this is really not recomended for security reasons only, I find this a little extreme. Don't know if there is a setting in Cartes du Ciel to disable this behaviour.
On the other hand you can actually run OW as a non-admin account (which will then start Cartes du Ciel as a non-admin) but this means logging into Windows as a non-admin account. I would recommend this to all Windows users but this could be a very big change to for many. You should still consider doing that but I have no other suggestions how to resolve this.
To match the 'extreme' of Cartes du Ciel itself, may be I can recommend that you complain to 'Cartes du Ciel' support and stop using it, especially if you have paid money for it - ask for your money back until they fix this redicolous coercion.
Hristo.
On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 02:12:51 AM GMT+11, Carlos Perell¨® <rigilk436@...> wrote:
Hi, OW doesn't allow run this add-in. The message is "... should never be run as an administerator...". The executable file skychart.exe had not been set in that way. Please see attached picture. Anybody has the same problem? Hristo, could you check it? Thanks and regards, Carlos
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Re: Cartes du Ciel add-in for OW
Hi,
OW doesn't allow run this add-in. The message is "... should never be run as an administerator...". The executable file skychart.exe had not been set in that way.
Please see attached picture. Anybody has the same problem? Hristo, could you check it?
Thanks and regards,
Carlos
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C2A Occultation Map Interface (modification)
I find the C2A Occultation Map feature (right click on an event) very useful.
Once it is generated by C2A, I print out the map for field reference.
If possible, I would like to see the RA/Dec of the target star included in the notes that appear on the lower edge of the printout.
This would save me time and would be more accurate since I wouldn't have to hand write it each time.
This info is passed to C2A when launched from OW, so adding the coordinates of the target star should be feasable.
I searched the menus of C2A but couldn't find a setting that would include the coordinates on a printout. If someone knows how to include the RA/Dec, please let me know.
Vince
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Re: Request for new feature... and...
Hi V,
Thanks for your commnts.
Changing font size in the details won't work, not easily, as it will scramble everytying. This is due to bad design on my part 14 years ago. So no point of allowing to change the font.
Your best option would be to change the Scale of your display to something bigger (125%, 150%, 175%). Make sure you change this from the main page of Display Settings on Windows 10 (called "Change the size of text, apps and other items") and not from the advanced settings (called "Enter a custom scaling size between 100% - 500% (not recommended)")
I updated the link and the title of the Yahoo group to point here. I will release this with the next update that also has some other more substantial changes.
Hristo.
On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 08:21:21 AM GMT+10, V Sempronio <vastronomy@...> wrote:
I looked for a configuration setting, but there doesn't appear to be a setting .
I would like to be able to modify the font size of the detail lines in the event listing. The text can get a little difficult to read on laptops with small screens. Even at 1080HD it is tough on old eyes!?
I have the horizontal real estate to stretch the screen, so having a larger font won't cause a reduction of data.?
The "help" drop down has a entry to a user group on Yahoo. That link is dead, it dumps you to the main Yahoo page. How about changing the link to go to "this" group's page.
V
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Request for new feature... and...
I looked for a configuration setting, but there doesn't appear to be a setting .
I would like to be able to modify the font size of the detail lines in the event listing. The text can get a little difficult to read on laptops with small screens. Even at 1080HD it is tough on old eyes!?
I have the horizontal real estate to stretch the screen, so having a larger font won't cause a reduction of data.?
The "help" drop down has a entry to a user group on Yahoo. That link is dead, it dumps you to the main Yahoo page. How about changing the link to go to "this" group's page.
V
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Re: Fixed Comet Feed links [OW Action Required!]
Thanks Histro, the comet names have numbers now!
Vince
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Fixed Comet Feed links [OW Action Required!]
Hi all,
There was a problem where the recently uploaded comet event in the CometOcc feed were generated with a bad id, due to a recent change of the coment designation format used by MPC. As a result the events in OW and also listed on OWC could not be reached on their event page on OWC.
This has been now fixed for existing events starting from tomorrow and the issue should not happen for the future events uploaded to CometOcc.
To get the fix in OW, if you are using the Comet Occultation feed, you will need to:
- Go to Configuration -> Prediction Feeds -> Comet Occultation (Global) -> [right click] -> Purge database - Let OW finish restarting - Go to Configuration -> Prediction Feeds -> Comet Occultation (Global) -> [right click] -> Synchronise
If any MyEvents or stations are lost in the above process you will need to re-add them. Old events will not be updated.
Thanks to Vince Sempronio for poiting out this issue.
Cheers,
Hristo.
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Re: OW Cuts off object name.
The cut off is due to the very old design of OccultWatcher desktop client, which was initially intended for asteroids only and then comets were added later.
The? 'Comet Ocultation' predictions are uploaded to OWC so if you follow the "View details on the web" link from below, this will attempt to open up the OWC page which will contain all the information you are asking for.
However because of a change of comet designation format for named comets by MPC this is currently not working as OWC cannot resolve the comet.
You can find out which is the comet if you go to: and then in the Future Events sections select the date and identify the event by time/star etc.
Unfortunately the links on this page will also not work at the moment for the same reason.
I will try to resolve this problem before Carlos uploads the next set of comet predictions.
Hristo.
On Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 11:55:39 AM GMT+10, V Sempronio <vastronomy@...> wrote:
um, I refrained from asking why are Asteroid Name (comets in this case) cut off on the listings? Instead I gave an example.... here is a snip from the "Comet Occultation" section of the OW listing.  The names of the comets are truncated, so I have no idea what comet they really are. It is difficult to research them further, in this case. If you look at the details of an event (right click and "additional event details"), that doesn't help either because the object name is truncated there as well. so, is there anywhere to go to find out what the full name is of an object? As i stated before, asteroids aren't an issue since their official number is listed first and therefore easy to find online. that was all... V
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Re: OW Cuts off object name.
um, I refrained from asking why are Asteroid Name (comets in this case) cut off on the listings? Instead I gave an example.... here is a snip from the "Comet Occultation" section of the OW listing.  The names of the comets are truncated, so I have no idea what comet they really are. It is difficult to research them further, in this case. If you look at the details of an event (right click and "additional event details"), that doesn't help either because the object name is truncated there as well. so, is there anywhere to go to find out what the full name is of an object? As i stated before, asteroids aren't an issue since their official number is listed first and therefore easy to find online. that was all... V
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Re: personal feed file not working
Hi Vince,
I am with you.
My approach is that these events are just there and not picked up by anyone else. I expect the security aspect is the same as all other predictions.
And so not really requiring any further consideration. Happy with other feed's security, so why worry about "Personal".
John Newman
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Subject: Re: [OccultWatcher] personal feed file not working
Hi Vince,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on all this.
Hristo.
On Sunday, August 29, 2021, 04:14:31 AM GMT+10, V Sempronio <vastronomy@...> wrote:
Hristo,
My use case is as follows:
I normally use one scope size (8" SCT) and observe events from home or I drive locally to mobile events.
I am also working on getting access t a larger (permanent pier) scope which isn't too far from my home location,? so I end up searching for events from my home location but go a couple of magnitudes dimmer. I then examine each even to determine if the path is over me and then separate the events into which scope I will use.? I end up discarding the low mag events that I would have to travel to. right now this is a paper exercise as I don't yet have access to the bigger scope (closed during the monsoon season). This process has nothing to do with personal predictions, I can adjust the settings of OW.
A few days ago I took some time to play around with Occult and was surprised that I was seeing some events in Occult from my location that weren't showing up in any other feed. It is possible I didn't set the settings in OW correctly to pick these events up, but that is beside the point These didn't seem so far out of the ordinary, so I wanted to bring them into OW for further scrutiny. That is when I discovered the issues with the mapping.?
To me, I didn't regard "personal" and being for only me, I thought of them as events I found via Occult that aren't available on other feeds.
As far as personal security goes, OW already has some security features when adding an event to "My Events", so I'm not sure what others are using their "personal predictions" for. If you don't want anyone to know about them, don't add them to "My Events".? Nobody else can see personal predictions unless they add them to "My Events", right? Perhaps a better solution is to have an additional entry in the "Show site to Others" drop down menu. The entry would be "Complete Privacy", which means the icon would not appear on any map so nobody would know they were observing it. The event could still be added to their "My Events" as a reminder, but when added, it wouldn't be pushed to any station notifications.?
My assumption was that the personal predictions imported from Occult should look and behave like any other "feed" prediction, they are just events that weren't available elsewhere.
Perhaps we can hear from others who do personal predictions to see how they use them.?
Vince
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Re: personal feed file not working
Hi Vince,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on all this.
Hristo.
On Sunday, August 29, 2021, 04:14:31 AM GMT+10, V Sempronio <vastronomy@...> wrote:
Hristo,
My use case is as follows:
I normally use one scope size (8" SCT) and observe events from home or I drive locally to mobile events.
I am also working on getting access t a larger (permanent pier) scope which isn't too far from my home location,? so I end up searching for events from my home location but go a couple of magnitudes dimmer. I then examine each even to determine if the path is over me and then separate the events into which scope I will use.? I end up discarding the low mag events that I would have to travel to. right now this is a paper exercise as I don't yet have access to the bigger scope (closed during the monsoon season). This process has nothing to do with personal predictions, I can adjust the settings of OW.
A few days ago I took some time to play around with Occult and was surprised that I was seeing some events in Occult from my location that weren't showing up in any other feed. It is possible I didn't set the settings in OW correctly to pick these events up, but that is beside the point These didn't seem so far out of the ordinary, so I wanted to bring them into OW for further scrutiny. That is when I discovered the issues with the mapping.?
To me, I didn't regard "personal" and being for only me, I thought of them as events I found via Occult that aren't available on other feeds.
As far as personal security goes, OW already has some security features when adding an event to "My Events", so I'm not sure what others are using their "personal predictions" for. If you don't want anyone to know about them, don't add them to "My Events".? Nobody else can see personal predictions unless they add them to "My Events", right? Perhaps a better solution is to have an additional entry in the "Show site to Others" drop down menu. The entry would be "Complete Privacy", which means the icon would not appear on any map so nobody would know they were observing it. The event could still be added to their "My Events" as a reminder, but when added, it wouldn't be pushed to any station notifications.?
My assumption was that the personal predictions imported from Occult should look and behave like any other "feed" prediction, they are just events that weren't available elsewhere.
Perhaps we can hear from others who do personal predictions to see how they use them.?
Vince
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Re: OW Cuts off object name.
This is a bit out of context, while I am guessing what you may be asking, I am not completely sure.
Can you provide more context and details about what you are trying to do and where.
Hristo.
On Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 06:35:42 AM GMT+10, V Sempronio <vastronomy@...> wrote:
The asteroids aren't a problem since they start with their numeric designation, but comet names have problems since you need the entire designation to identify it or search for it online.
Case in point...
20 Sept event of ATLAS (C/2020 N
Um, what comes after the N?
The details of the event doesn't have a longer name, so I'm not sure how to identify it.
V
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The asteroids aren't a problem since they start with their numeric designation, but comet names have problems since you need the entire designation to identify it or search for it online.
Case in point...
20 Sept event of ATLAS (C/2020 N
Um, what comes after the N?
The details of the event doesn't have a longer name, so I'm not sure how to identify it.
V
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Re: personal feed file not working
Hristo,
My use case is as follows:
I normally use one scope size (8" SCT) and observe events from home or I drive locally to mobile events.
I am also working on getting access t a larger (permanent pier) scope which isn't too far from my home location,? so I end up searching for events from my home location but go a couple of magnitudes dimmer. I then examine each even to determine if the path is over me and then separate the events into which scope I will use.? I end up discarding the low mag events that I would have to travel to. right now this is a paper exercise as I don't yet have access to the bigger scope (closed during the monsoon season). This process has nothing to do with personal predictions, I can adjust the settings of OW.
A few days ago I took some time to play around with Occult and was surprised that I was seeing some events in Occult from my location that weren't showing up in any other feed. It is possible I didn't set the settings in OW correctly to pick these events up, but that is beside the point These didn't seem so far out of the ordinary, so I wanted to bring them into OW for further scrutiny. That is when I discovered the issues with the mapping.?
To me, I didn't regard "personal" and being for only me, I thought of them as events I found via Occult that aren't available on other feeds.
As far as personal security goes, OW already has some security features when adding an event to "My Events", so I'm not sure what others are using their "personal predictions" for. If you don't want anyone to know about them, don't add them to "My Events".? Nobody else can see personal predictions unless they add them to "My Events", right? Perhaps a better solution is to have an additional entry in the "Show site to Others" drop down menu. The entry would be "Complete Privacy", which means the icon would not appear on any map so nobody would know they were observing it. The event could still be added to their "My Events" as a reminder, but when added, it wouldn't be pushed to any station notifications.?
My assumption was that the personal predictions imported from Occult should look and behave like any other "feed" prediction, they are just events that weren't available elsewhere.
Perhaps we can hear from others who do personal predictions to see how they use them.?
Vince
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V Sempronio
Carlos Perell¨®
