Right, that's a whole other matter and I agree about that - I don't want
to get any railroader in trouble by my presence or actions I take
posting photos afterwards.

In fact I only take pictures of the people with their permission,
otherwise I avoid them as much as I can to give them privacy.

I don't own a drone but I see far too many vantage points on his flickr
that would be a violation of the same rules in Canada, flying drones
over rail yards is actually illegal



Is it trespassing? probably not.. probably worse. It would be nice if
the advice given out is adhered to is all, in a national forum such as
Dpreview. Trespassing in the USA (on a railroad or not) is a much more
serious matter than it is here in Canada, where here it is a fine (and
not criminal unless it's trespass by night which is around houses after
10 PM). In the US it's a criminal record.... if I had that on my record
they'd never let me across the border to visit my American friends and
family!

I've never ever had a ticket for anything like that in my middle aged
life :) Speeding tickets... fine... but it's been a while :) a long
while.

- Steve

On 2022-10-21 06:29, Dave Saums wrote:
> Steve, I would disagree. This past Sunday, I was out with a friend
> and we had a discussion about railroad photography, specifically about
> not posting any photography where it is evident that there is a rules
> violation. (We were chasing a branch movement and the ditch lights
> were not on.) That is hardly the first discussion on that topic.
>
>? My own rule is not photographing crewmen getting on or off equipment,
> as another example.
>
>? Asking permission is another.
>
>? I do not know about drone rules, though -- I do not own one.
>
>? Dave
>
>? Amesbury MA USA
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>
> "Never trespass and be careful"
>
> Sure..... I believe him :)
>
> BTW - Drones are trespassing, in this country (Canada) when you are
> flying them over rail yards.. drones are probably the worst offenders
> for rules violations...
>
> But then again, photographers don't care as long as the shot is in
> hand :) Drones are probably among the worst offenders these days given
> you can fly in, and out of many places , including private
> infrastructure and airspace without being detected (so far, that's
> also subject to change).
>
> - Steve
>
> On 10/20/2022 4:34 PM, Dave Saums wrote:
>
>> Phil, thanks for posting this and for pointing to the comments
>> section. This was really enjoyable to see -- although some of the
>> comments leave a little to be desired.
>>
>> I can understand that someone in the UK would find Montana or Idaho
>> or the Columbia River Gorge to be a bit challenging, from a shadow
>> perspective, not having normally to deal with very high geographic
>> features.
>>
>> Looks like I will have an opportunity to ride to a relatively high
>> point with very high trestles and vertical drops in the White
>> Mountains in New Hampshire on Sunday -- have to be prepared for
>> snow, though. One never knows what to expect at this time of year.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave.
>>
>> DAVE SAUMS
>>
>> Mountains-of-the-Sky Photography, Amesbury MA 01913 USA
>> Email: dsaums@... Tel: 978 479 7474
>> Editor, Rutland Railroad Historical Society "Newsliner" Quarterly
>> Magazine
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