On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 7:51, Nick Hecker

<nhhecker@...> wrote:

Morning y'all,

You might already know that Marshall N1FN who ran a.k.a.? passed away a few years back. His storefront has been closed since then, but I just noticed his wife Wendy has updated it recently to say she's selling everything at 33% off. I'm putting together and order myself, and thought I'd offer you local guys a chance to add anything to the order for you and I'll be happy to cover the shipping. There's a lot of good paddles and keys and solder and other whatnots.

Marshall was an outstanding guy the few times i got a chance to talk to him; he was about as nice as you can get when taking to some kid as he bought his first key (still use it, it's my only one!) I've been hoping the store would open back up and glad it finally did. The 1/3-off-discount is just icing on the cake.

73, KI4YSP

On Jan 21, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Huel Halliburton <seafury777@...> wrote:

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I just made an order and they gave me some good prices but you have to call and talk to them.

On Friday, January 21, 2022, 03:17:13 PM CST, Jeff Otterson <otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

I just dropped $200 at the Wireman this week.

Coax is already crazy expensive. 2x?? ouch

Jeff n1kdo

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 2:34 PM Huel Halliburton <seafury777@...> wrote:

FYI

I just talked to the Wireman folks and coax and rotor cable is going to double in price in the next few weeks?

They still have some cable at the old prices so you may want to stock up on your cable needs.

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022, 12:02:46 PM CST, Joe Schippert via <joe_schippert=[email protected]> wrote:

Hey Dave,

It must be nice to have three elements on 20M on up!

Good assessment of how problems show up. I had not thought about for the Steppir. Good luck with your controller!

73, Joe AJ2Y?

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On Jan 5, 2022, at 09:52, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:

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Joe, to try and research the steppir controller issue I joined the steppir group. Now I get multiple messages daily from folks with controller issues. That prompted me to look at eham reviews, and much the same there.?

It’s hard to get a read on what percentage of steppir owners are having issues. Many/most with problems will vent about it. Many/most with no issues are quiet about it. So maybe 20 percent have issues, or maybe 1/20th of one percent. Who knows. But lots of folks have problems. It sure is great when it’s working though.?

Dave UW

On Jan 5, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Joe Schippert <joe_schippert@...> wrote:

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Hi Dave,

Glad you and Margaret dodged that darn Covid, and hope your tribe is soon back at 100%.?

I have not heard that level of problems with the Steppir from anybody else. Do you think maybe a call with a senior guy at Steppir would yield some results?? I can’t imagine they would accept that performance in their own stations. Did you buy it new?? I don’t think I know, but regardless, I hate to see you entering this phase of Cycle 25 with your antenna keeping you off the higher bands.?

Let us know when you want to pull it down and fix, or whatever.?

73, Joe AJ2Y?

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On Jan 4, 2022, at 22:04, Dave Moss <davemoss@...> wrote:

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OK, here’s the photo.? Sorry, I forgot it last time.?

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Pardon the mess on the desk.? This is still very much a work in progress.??

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UW

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of KE4UW Dave
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 9:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [N4N-Field-Day] Me vs. Computer

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This has been an interesting week.? We had a few family members exposed to covid.? My daughter Kim managed to catch it from her daughter who brought it home from daycare.? Then my son-in-law Mark (married to my daughter Jenna, and recently moved to the US) and another daughter’s fiancée decided to go play basketball at the gym a few days before xmas and both apparently brought covid home.? Mark and Jenna and their two toddlers live with us, so we sort of isolated, with Margaret and I staying in the basement, and Mark, Jenna, and the girls staying in the top two floors.? So far, so good.? We tested negative the Thursday before xmas (after possible exposure to Kim), and again on this past Tuesday (after possible exposre to the basketball players, and again this morning.? So it looks like we dodged a bullet.? But Jenna, Mark, and the two girls all tested positive.? All minimal symptoms, thanks, I presume, to the vaccines.?

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So, what to do when isolated in the basement?? Well, the new Dell arrived (without the monitors), and a bunch of radios and accessories needed setting up, so this was the week.? I took the advice of several and cancelled the order of monitors from Dell and got Asus monitors from Microcenter instead.? Good plan.? I was able to pick them up the same day.

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It has not exactly been easy for me—you know computers and I don’t generally get along well.? But after several days of tinkering I have the new computer up and running with Microsoft office, Logic logging software, and WSJT-x on both radios simultaneously.? Yes, I had that all working on the old computer, but there are a lot of little nuggets I had figured out some time in the past that I had to re-figure out.? Remember how to change the RRR message in WSJT-x to RR73?? Remember how to move forms on/off of the Logic main window?? Remember how to adjust font size in Logic, WSJT-x, or Outlook?? Remember how to set up two instances of WSJT-x?? I didn’t, and I’m trying not to pester the world with questions.? Eventually, after hours monkeying with it, I relearned them all.? All but one, really.? Eddie, I tried the instructions you sent to set thing up to download LOTW users into WSJT-x.? Worked perfectly on the old computer.? Didn’t work in the new computer.? So I manually downloaded the csv file into the WSJT-x log directories.? Not ideal, but after hours of fiddling with it, I went with what worked.? It’s on my list to come back to one day.?

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Oh, and you don’t need to import the WSJT-x log to get the color-coded dupe checking.? It apparently reads the info from the ADIF file, not the log file.? So parking the ADIF I exported from Logic into the WSJT-x log folders was all that was needed.? Sounds easy, but it took me hours to figure it out.?

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So, slowly making progress.? I have the TS-990 and TS-890 up and running on FT-8 and phone, talking nicely to Logic and WSJT-x.? The TS-2000 is up and running on 2m.? The remote antenna switch is band following on both radios.? Rotor control from the logging software is working.? Next up is the Winkeyer setup, then N1MM for phone and CW.? Then I’ll take another crack at RTTY setup, although that was a dismal failure last attempt.??

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The Steppir is again broke.? Control chip error in the SDA controller.? Jeff1 helped me replace the chips, then after working for a short while it went Tango Uniform again.? After I get all the software working (and the rest of the xmas lights put away) I’ll do more troubleshooting again.? That steppir is great when it’s working, but it has been broke about as often as it is working in the three years I’ve had it.? Got to think this thing has some serious design shortcomings.? I’m getting pretty close to punting on steppir forever.? More frustration than fun.?

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But I’m good on 80, 60, 40, 30, and 2m. Made a few contacts today (9V on 40m was the best).? Feeling almost, but not entirely, back in business.?

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Here’s a photo of the new rack mount setup.? Not much rats nest of wiring visible from the front.? Back is another thing altogether.? Not visible, but still a rats nest, but the back of the equipment is readily available despite the rats nest.? Went from two 22-inch monitors to three 27-inch monitors—lots of room for logging and digital mode windows.? I think I’m going to like it.?

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Dave UW

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On Jan 6, 2022, at 10:59 PM, KE4UW Dave <mossdj@...> wrote:

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I think every 11 months would work great for GA. ?Late June to mid-September would suck pretty much just like FD has forever with the heat and humidity.? But the other 2/3 of the year would be GREAT!

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Not so sure the folks in NH or in International Falls, MN would care for the December through March time slots.? It would take balls like grapefruits to do FD outdoors at 40 below.?

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UW

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 7:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N4N-Field-Day] from arrl letter -- what do you think?

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I thought about this for a short minute, and I think that they should try adding a "bragging rights" score: a second score calculated differently.

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Unique to the FD callsign, there is a band/mode/section multiplier.? DX counts by ITU Region only 1/2/3.? Score is #qsos * (# unique band/mode/section)

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You know me, I've been wanting to make Field Day occur every 11 months instead of annually for a long time.

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Jeff n1kdo

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:07 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Somewhat progressive for the ARRL, I thought, at least they were seeking feedback.

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I think the more the merrier should be encouraged/motivated to participate in FD, whether from home or not.?

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AE4TQ?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:02, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

done?? What did you think?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Done!

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 18:33, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

ARRL Surveying Field Day Participants

The ARRL Programs and Services Committee is seeking input from stations and groups that participated in??2020 and 2021 and has posted a survey. The committee said the survey results may help shape the development of Field Day rules for 2022 and beyond. The survey has already been sent via email to some 13,000 Field Day participants, more than 2,400 Affiliated Clubs, and to the?CQ-Contest and VHF-Contesting Reflectors.

"Specifically, as we look toward 2022 Field Day, health and social-distancing concerns may continue in June 2022 during the ongoing world pandemic," said ARRL Radiosport Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ. "For 2023 and beyond, the assumption is made that the pandemic will be over, and COVID-related restrictions will be relaxed."

Jahnke said the Programs and Services Committee invites participants' insights, in advance of its January meeting, regarding what they consider appropriate for operating ARRL Field Day 2022 during the ongoing pandemic. The committee hopes to learn if participants prefer to continue Field Day under the pandemic accommodations afforded in 2020 and 2021, which included limiting home stations to the Low Power multiplier (150 W PEP), and whether stations in some classes or all other classes should be limited to 150 W PEP as well. Field Day stations operating at high power became the topic of some discussion in the wake of Field Day 2021, when some stations were reported to be running the legal limit on FT8 on crowded bands.

The committee is also interested in views on the 150 W versus 100 W change in the Field Day Low Power category definition, which is being implemented across all contest platforms.

During 2020 and 2021, ARRL permitted a couple of basic accommodations in the Field Day rules during the COVID outbreak.

Participants who could not or did not want to be in a group were allowed to operate from their home stations and contribute their individual scores to their club's Field Day aggregate score. Members' scores were combined to achieve an overall final club score, which then appeared in the ARRL Field Day results summary in?QST?and on the ARRL website.

In addition, Class D (Home, commercial power) stations were allowed to contact other Class D stations for point credit.

In 2021, Class D and Class E (Home, emergency power) stations were limited to a maximum transmitter output power of 150 W PEP (Low Power). The idea here was to minimize the advantage of well-established home stations with superior antenna systems and running up to the legal 1,500 W PEP limit.

Field Day participants may use this??or copy this URL into a web browser:?.

The survey will close on January 17, 2022.?Direct?any questions to the ARRL Contest Department.

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Ok, thanks Eric, Tom, and Jeff.? Home Depot has the Command Strips and the Scotch extremely strong strips.? I’ll grab some of those and give them a try.? If two on each hockey puck isn’t enough, I’ll try four.? ?

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I guess these are like removable two-sided tape. ?Wonder what gives first, the Velcro or the adhesive.?

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UW

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Sent from for Windows

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Dave,

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Try some of the Command Velcro strips on the bottom. You can still move it if necessary and it will come off if you want to change it around.

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--
Eric Howell
W4MC
w4mc@...

On Jan 6, 2022, at 19:17, Jeff Otterson <otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

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I thought about this for a short minute, and I think that they should try adding a "bragging rights" score: a second score calculated differently.

Unique to the FD callsign, there is a band/mode/section multiplier.? DX counts by ITU Region only 1/2/3.? Score is #qsos * (# unique band/mode/section)

You know me, I've been wanting to make Field Day occur every 11 months instead of annually for a long time.

Jeff n1kdo

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:07 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Somewhat progressive for the ARRL, I thought, at least they were seeking feedback.

I think the more the merrier should be encouraged/motivated to participate in FD, whether from home or not.?

AE4TQ?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:02, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

done?? What did you think?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Done!

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 18:33, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

ARRL Surveying Field Day Participants

The ARRL Programs and Services Committee is seeking input from stations and groups that participated in??2020 and 2021 and has posted a survey. The committee said the survey results may help shape the development of Field Day rules for 2022 and beyond. The survey has already been sent via email to some 13,000 Field Day participants, more than 2,400 Affiliated Clubs, and to the?CQ-Contest and VHF-Contesting Reflectors.

"Specifically, as we look toward 2022 Field Day, health and social-distancing concerns may continue in June 2022 during the ongoing world pandemic," said ARRL Radiosport Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ. "For 2023 and beyond, the assumption is made that the pandemic will be over, and COVID-related restrictions will be relaxed."

Jahnke said the Programs and Services Committee invites participants' insights, in advance of its January meeting, regarding what they consider appropriate for operating ARRL Field Day 2022 during the ongoing pandemic. The committee hopes to learn if participants prefer to continue Field Day under the pandemic accommodations afforded in 2020 and 2021, which included limiting home stations to the Low Power multiplier (150 W PEP), and whether stations in some classes or all other classes should be limited to 150 W PEP as well. Field Day stations operating at high power became the topic of some discussion in the wake of Field Day 2021, when some stations were reported to be running the legal limit on FT8 on crowded bands.

The committee is also interested in views on the 150 W versus 100 W change in the Field Day Low Power category definition, which is being implemented across all contest platforms.

During 2020 and 2021, ARRL permitted a couple of basic accommodations in the Field Day rules during the COVID outbreak.

Participants who could not or did not want to be in a group were allowed to operate from their home stations and contribute their individual scores to their club's Field Day aggregate score. Members' scores were combined to achieve an overall final club score, which then appeared in the ARRL Field Day results summary in?QST?and on the ARRL website.

In addition, Class D (Home, commercial power) stations were allowed to contact other Class D stations for point credit.

In 2021, Class D and Class E (Home, emergency power) stations were limited to a maximum transmitter output power of 150 W PEP (Low Power). The idea here was to minimize the advantage of well-established home stations with superior antenna systems and running up to the legal 1,500 W PEP limit.

Field Day participants may use this??or copy this URL into a web browser:?.

The survey will close on January 17, 2022.?Direct?any questions to the ARRL Contest Department.

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I agree to a point.?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 20:17, James Nail

<james.nail@...> wrote:

Great Dave. ?Field Day is about emergency preparedness and how to maximize your effectiveness in the field given minimal setup time to simulate a real need. ?Take that out of it and the event is meaningless. ?I’ll write this in also.

Jim

James Nail

On Jan 6, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Roger Hackler <roger.l.hackler@...> wrote:

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On point Dave. ?

On Jan 6, 2022, at 20:00, KE4UW Dave <mossdj@...> wrote:

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I’m going to respond to ARRL too.? I would like to do away with home stations working other home stations for points.? In that world, high power stations with the best antennas money can buy and install dominate the bands.? The “field” stations using temporary setups will become less important, maybe even irrelevant, to others in the “contest”.? Why bother with a “field” day if all the advantages go to the home stations.? Already 15 or so of the top 100 scores were home stations.? This will only grow as folks figure out there isn’t any down side to operating in D class.?

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If they keep this rule, we could still do the event here, but why not just be class D and use whatever antennas we can get up over the next six months?? Take the set up out of FD weekend.

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That’s just my opinion, I may be wrong.?

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UW

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Edmund Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N4N-Field-Day] from arrl letter -- what do you think?

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I get ya. ?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:17, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

I thought about this for a short minute, and I think that they should try adding a "bragging rights" score: a second score calculated differently.

?

Unique to the FD callsign, there is a band/mode/section multiplier.? DX counts by ITU Region only 1/2/3.? Score is #qsos * (# unique band/mode/section)

?

You know me, I've been wanting to make Field Day occur every 11 months instead of annually for a long time.

?

Jeff n1kdo

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:07 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Somewhat progressive for the ARRL, I thought, at least they were seeking feedback.

?

I think the more the merrier should be encouraged/motivated to participate in FD, whether from home or not.?

?

AE4TQ?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:02, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

done?? What did you think?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Done!

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 18:33, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

ARRL Surveying Field Day Participants

The ARRL Programs and Services Committee is seeking input from stations and groups that participated in??2020 and 2021 and has posted a survey. The committee said the survey results may help shape the development of Field Day rules for 2022 and beyond. The survey has already been sent via email to some 13,000 Field Day participants, more than 2,400 Affiliated Clubs, and to the?CQ-Contest and VHF-Contesting Reflectors.

"Specifically, as we look toward 2022 Field Day, health and social-distancing concerns may continue in June 2022 during the ongoing world pandemic," said ARRL Radiosport Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ. "For 2023 and beyond, the assumption is made that the pandemic will be over, and COVID-related restrictions will be relaxed."

Jahnke said the Programs and Services Committee invites participants' insights, in advance of its January meeting, regarding what they consider appropriate for operating ARRL Field Day 2022 during the ongoing pandemic. The committee hopes to learn if participants prefer to continue Field Day under the pandemic accommodations afforded in 2020 and 2021, which included limiting home stations to the Low Power multiplier (150 W PEP), and whether stations in some classes or all other classes should be limited to 150 W PEP as well. Field Day stations operating at high power became the topic of some discussion in the wake of Field Day 2021, when some stations were reported to be running the legal limit on FT8 on crowded bands.

The committee is also interested in views on the 150 W versus 100 W change in the Field Day Low Power category definition, which is being implemented across all contest platforms.

During 2020 and 2021, ARRL permitted a couple of basic accommodations in the Field Day rules during the COVID outbreak.

Participants who could not or did not want to be in a group were allowed to operate from their home stations and contribute their individual scores to their club's Field Day aggregate score. Members' scores were combined to achieve an overall final club score, which then appeared in the ARRL Field Day results summary in?QST?and on the ARRL website.

In addition, Class D (Home, commercial power) stations were allowed to contact other Class D stations for point credit.

In 2021, Class D and Class E (Home, emergency power) stations were limited to a maximum transmitter output power of 150 W PEP (Low Power). The idea here was to minimize the advantage of well-established home stations with superior antenna systems and running up to the legal 1,500 W PEP limit.

Field Day participants may use this??or copy this URL into a web browser:?.

The survey will close on January 17, 2022.?Direct?any questions to the ARRL Contest Department.

?

On Jan 6, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Roger Hackler <roger.l.hackler@...> wrote:

?On point Dave. ?

On Jan 6, 2022, at 20:00, KE4UW Dave <mossdj@...> wrote:

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I’m going to respond to ARRL too.? I would like to do away with home stations working other home stations for points.? In that world, high power stations with the best antennas money can buy and install dominate the bands.? The “field” stations using temporary setups will become less important, maybe even irrelevant, to others in the “contest”.? Why bother with a “field” day if all the advantages go to the home stations.? Already 15 or so of the top 100 scores were home stations.? This will only grow as folks figure out there isn’t any down side to operating in D class.?

?

If they keep this rule, we could still do the event here, but why not just be class D and use whatever antennas we can get up over the next six months?? Take the set up out of FD weekend.

?

That’s just my opinion, I may be wrong.?

?

UW

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Edmund Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N4N-Field-Day] from arrl letter -- what do you think?

?

I get ya. ?

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:17, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

I thought about this for a short minute, and I think that they should try adding a "bragging rights" score: a second score calculated differently.

?

Unique to the FD callsign, there is a band/mode/section multiplier.? DX counts by ITU Region only 1/2/3.? Score is #qsos * (# unique band/mode/section)

?

You know me, I've been wanting to make Field Day occur every 11 months instead of annually for a long time.

?

Jeff n1kdo

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:07 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Somewhat progressive for the ARRL, I thought, at least they were seeking feedback.

?

I think the more the merrier should be encouraged/motivated to participate in FD, whether from home or not.?

?

AE4TQ?

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:02, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

done?? What did you think?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Done!

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 18:33, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

ARRL Surveying Field Day Participants

The ARRL Programs and Services Committee is seeking input from stations and groups that participated in??2020 and 2021 and has posted a survey. The committee said the survey results may help shape the development of Field Day rules for 2022 and beyond. The survey has already been sent via email to some 13,000 Field Day participants, more than 2,400 Affiliated Clubs, and to the?CQ-Contest and VHF-Contesting Reflectors.

"Specifically, as we look toward 2022 Field Day, health and social-distancing concerns may continue in June 2022 during the ongoing world pandemic," said ARRL Radiosport Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ. "For 2023 and beyond, the assumption is made that the pandemic will be over, and COVID-related restrictions will be relaxed."

Jahnke said the Programs and Services Committee invites participants' insights, in advance of its January meeting, regarding what they consider appropriate for operating ARRL Field Day 2022 during the ongoing pandemic. The committee hopes to learn if participants prefer to continue Field Day under the pandemic accommodations afforded in 2020 and 2021, which included limiting home stations to the Low Power multiplier (150 W PEP), and whether stations in some classes or all other classes should be limited to 150 W PEP as well. Field Day stations operating at high power became the topic of some discussion in the wake of Field Day 2021, when some stations were reported to be running the legal limit on FT8 on crowded bands.

The committee is also interested in views on the 150 W versus 100 W change in the Field Day Low Power category definition, which is being implemented across all contest platforms.

During 2020 and 2021, ARRL permitted a couple of basic accommodations in the Field Day rules during the COVID outbreak.

Participants who could not or did not want to be in a group were allowed to operate from their home stations and contribute their individual scores to their club's Field Day aggregate score. Members' scores were combined to achieve an overall final club score, which then appeared in the ARRL Field Day results summary in?QST?and on the ARRL website.

In addition, Class D (Home, commercial power) stations were allowed to contact other Class D stations for point credit.

In 2021, Class D and Class E (Home, emergency power) stations were limited to a maximum transmitter output power of 150 W PEP (Low Power). The idea here was to minimize the advantage of well-established home stations with superior antenna systems and running up to the legal 1,500 W PEP limit.

Field Day participants may use this??or copy this URL into a web browser:?.

The survey will close on January 17, 2022.?Direct?any questions to the ARRL Contest Department.

?

On Jan 6, 2022, at 20:00, KE4UW Dave <mossdj@...> wrote:

?

I’m going to respond to ARRL too.? I would like to do away with home stations working other home stations for points.? In that world, high power stations with the best antennas money can buy and install dominate the bands.? The “field” stations using temporary setups will become less important, maybe even irrelevant, to others in the “contest”.? Why bother with a “field” day if all the advantages go to the home stations.? Already 15 or so of the top 100 scores were home stations.? This will only grow as folks figure out there isn’t any down side to operating in D class.?

?

If they keep this rule, we could still do the event here, but why not just be class D and use whatever antennas we can get up over the next six months?? Take the set up out of FD weekend.

?

That’s just my opinion, I may be wrong.?

?

UW

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Edmund Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N4N-Field-Day] from arrl letter -- what do you think?

?

I get ya. ?

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:17, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

I thought about this for a short minute, and I think that they should try adding a "bragging rights" score: a second score calculated differently.

?

Unique to the FD callsign, there is a band/mode/section multiplier.? DX counts by ITU Region only 1/2/3.? Score is #qsos * (# unique band/mode/section)

?

You know me, I've been wanting to make Field Day occur every 11 months instead of annually for a long time.

?

Jeff n1kdo

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:07 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Somewhat progressive for the ARRL, I thought, at least they were seeking feedback.

?

I think the more the merrier should be encouraged/motivated to participate in FD, whether from home or not.?

?

AE4TQ?

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:02, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

done?? What did you think?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Done!

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 18:33, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

ARRL Surveying Field Day Participants

The ARRL Programs and Services Committee is seeking input from stations and groups that participated in??2020 and 2021 and has posted a survey. The committee said the survey results may help shape the development of Field Day rules for 2022 and beyond. The survey has already been sent via email to some 13,000 Field Day participants, more than 2,400 Affiliated Clubs, and to the?CQ-Contest and VHF-Contesting Reflectors.

"Specifically, as we look toward 2022 Field Day, health and social-distancing concerns may continue in June 2022 during the ongoing world pandemic," said ARRL Radiosport Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ. "For 2023 and beyond, the assumption is made that the pandemic will be over, and COVID-related restrictions will be relaxed."

Jahnke said the Programs and Services Committee invites participants' insights, in advance of its January meeting, regarding what they consider appropriate for operating ARRL Field Day 2022 during the ongoing pandemic. The committee hopes to learn if participants prefer to continue Field Day under the pandemic accommodations afforded in 2020 and 2021, which included limiting home stations to the Low Power multiplier (150 W PEP), and whether stations in some classes or all other classes should be limited to 150 W PEP as well. Field Day stations operating at high power became the topic of some discussion in the wake of Field Day 2021, when some stations were reported to be running the legal limit on FT8 on crowded bands.

The committee is also interested in views on the 150 W versus 100 W change in the Field Day Low Power category definition, which is being implemented across all contest platforms.

During 2020 and 2021, ARRL permitted a couple of basic accommodations in the Field Day rules during the COVID outbreak.

Participants who could not or did not want to be in a group were allowed to operate from their home stations and contribute their individual scores to their club's Field Day aggregate score. Members' scores were combined to achieve an overall final club score, which then appeared in the ARRL Field Day results summary in?QST?and on the ARRL website.

In addition, Class D (Home, commercial power) stations were allowed to contact other Class D stations for point credit.

In 2021, Class D and Class E (Home, emergency power) stations were limited to a maximum transmitter output power of 150 W PEP (Low Power). The idea here was to minimize the advantage of well-established home stations with superior antenna systems and running up to the legal 1,500 W PEP limit.

Field Day participants may use this??or copy this URL into a web browser:?.

The survey will close on January 17, 2022.?Direct?any questions to the ARRL Contest Department.

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I get ya. ?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:17, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

I thought about this for a short minute, and I think that they should try adding a "bragging rights" score: a second score calculated differently.

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Unique to the FD callsign, there is a band/mode/section multiplier.? DX counts by ITU Region only 1/2/3.? Score is #qsos * (# unique band/mode/section)

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You know me, I've been wanting to make Field Day occur every 11 months instead of annually for a long time.

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Jeff n1kdo

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:07 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Somewhat progressive for the ARRL, I thought, at least they were seeking feedback.

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I think the more the merrier should be encouraged/motivated to participate in FD, whether from home or not.?

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AE4TQ?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:02, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

done?? What did you think?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Done!

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 18:33, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

ARRL Surveying Field Day Participants

The ARRL Programs and Services Committee is seeking input from stations and groups that participated in??2020 and 2021 and has posted a survey. The committee said the survey results may help shape the development of Field Day rules for 2022 and beyond. The survey has already been sent via email to some 13,000 Field Day participants, more than 2,400 Affiliated Clubs, and to the?CQ-Contest and VHF-Contesting Reflectors.

"Specifically, as we look toward 2022 Field Day, health and social-distancing concerns may continue in June 2022 during the ongoing world pandemic," said ARRL Radiosport Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ. "For 2023 and beyond, the assumption is made that the pandemic will be over, and COVID-related restrictions will be relaxed."

Jahnke said the Programs and Services Committee invites participants' insights, in advance of its January meeting, regarding what they consider appropriate for operating ARRL Field Day 2022 during the ongoing pandemic. The committee hopes to learn if participants prefer to continue Field Day under the pandemic accommodations afforded in 2020 and 2021, which included limiting home stations to the Low Power multiplier (150 W PEP), and whether stations in some classes or all other classes should be limited to 150 W PEP as well. Field Day stations operating at high power became the topic of some discussion in the wake of Field Day 2021, when some stations were reported to be running the legal limit on FT8 on crowded bands.

The committee is also interested in views on the 150 W versus 100 W change in the Field Day Low Power category definition, which is being implemented across all contest platforms.

During 2020 and 2021, ARRL permitted a couple of basic accommodations in the Field Day rules during the COVID outbreak.

Participants who could not or did not want to be in a group were allowed to operate from their home stations and contribute their individual scores to their club's Field Day aggregate score. Members' scores were combined to achieve an overall final club score, which then appeared in the ARRL Field Day results summary in?QST?and on the ARRL website.

In addition, Class D (Home, commercial power) stations were allowed to contact other Class D stations for point credit.

In 2021, Class D and Class E (Home, emergency power) stations were limited to a maximum transmitter output power of 150 W PEP (Low Power). The idea here was to minimize the advantage of well-established home stations with superior antenna systems and running up to the legal 1,500 W PEP limit.

Field Day participants may use this??or copy this URL into a web browser:?.

The survey will close on January 17, 2022.?Direct?any questions to the ARRL Contest Department.

?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:17, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

I thought about this for a short minute, and I think that they should try adding a "bragging rights" score: a second score calculated differently.

Unique to the FD callsign, there is a band/mode/section multiplier.? DX counts by ITU Region only 1/2/3.? Score is #qsos * (# unique band/mode/section)

You know me, I've been wanting to make Field Day occur every 11 months instead of annually for a long time.

Jeff n1kdo

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:07 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Somewhat progressive for the ARRL, I thought, at least they were seeking feedback.

I think the more the merrier should be encouraged/motivated to participate in FD, whether from home or not.?

AE4TQ?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 19:02, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

done?? What did you think?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM Edmund Thompson <Edmundthompson@...> wrote:

Done!

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 18:33, Jeff Otterson

<otterson_nospam@...> wrote:

ARRL Surveying Field Day Participants

The ARRL Programs and Services Committee is seeking input from stations and groups that participated in??2020 and 2021 and has posted a survey. The committee said the survey results may help shape the development of Field Day rules for 2022 and beyond. The survey has already been sent via email to some 13,000 Field Day participants, more than 2,400 Affiliated Clubs, and to the?CQ-Contest and VHF-Contesting Reflectors.

"Specifically, as we look toward 2022 Field Day, health and social-distancing concerns may continue in June 2022 during the ongoing world pandemic," said ARRL Radiosport Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ. "For 2023 and beyond, the assumption is made that the pandemic will be over, and COVID-related restrictions will be relaxed."

Jahnke said the Programs and Services Committee invites participants' insights, in advance of its January meeting, regarding what they consider appropriate for operating ARRL Field Day 2022 during the ongoing pandemic. The committee hopes to learn if participants prefer to continue Field Day under the pandemic accommodations afforded in 2020 and 2021, which included limiting home stations to the Low Power multiplier (150 W PEP), and whether stations in some classes or all other classes should be limited to 150 W PEP as well. Field Day stations operating at high power became the topic of some discussion in the wake of Field Day 2021, when some stations were reported to be running the legal limit on FT8 on crowded bands.

The committee is also interested in views on the 150 W versus 100 W change in the Field Day Low Power category definition, which is being implemented across all contest platforms.

During 2020 and 2021, ARRL permitted a couple of basic accommodations in the Field Day rules during the COVID outbreak.

Participants who could not or did not want to be in a group were allowed to operate from their home stations and contribute their individual scores to their club's Field Day aggregate score. Members' scores were combined to achieve an overall final club score, which then appeared in the ARRL Field Day results summary in?QST?and on the ARRL website.

In addition, Class D (Home, commercial power) stations were allowed to contact other Class D stations for point credit.

In 2021, Class D and Class E (Home, emergency power) stations were limited to a maximum transmitter output power of 150 W PEP (Low Power). The idea here was to minimize the advantage of well-established home stations with superior antenna systems and running up to the legal 1,500 W PEP limit.

Field Day participants may use this??or copy this URL into a web browser:?.

The survey will close on January 17, 2022.?Direct?any questions to the ARRL Contest Department.