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Hi everybody, Only checking if my account on the new N2PK-VNA vector network analyser group is OK. Kind Regards, Juan, M0WWA --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Started by Juan M0WWA @
How to see the old messages 2
Hi I have seen in the files of the new group the messages. I have tried to see the content but i see only a lot of figures, words non sense. Can anybody explain to me how to visualize correctly the messages of the old group ? Thanks Gianfranco
Started by canale @ · Most recent @
N2PK project items
Greetings I have been a keen user virtually from the beginning. Recently a very good friend passed away and prior to leaving us he donated the VNA Items which he built or purchased, He was an expert builder and his superior workmanship is clear. Unfortunately he died before final assembly and testing. Here are the items that I am offering for sale as a complete set. The case is typically used in N2PK VNA projects .The front panel has the 3 SMA connectors with a USB rear connector Main board rev 5.1 came from Ivan VE3IVM Semiflex cables with SMA connectors are used throughout HF reflection bridge has SMA sockets to match those on the front panel with male-male couplers VE3IVM RF-IV rev 2 board (not built) Two low noise power supplies with over-voltage and crow-bar protection were designed specifically for the N2PK VNA and made by OM3LZ, One is dual 12 and 5V version 4 is the other supplies 12, 9 and 5 v for use with transverters.I recommend studying the OM3LZ project description on his web site I will be pleased to respond to email questions and will provide pictures of all items to those interested As a sanity check I am expecting offers over $300
Started by Ron Skelton @
New file uploaded to [email protected]
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that the following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /N2PKwebsite.zip Uploaded By: David Feldman <wb0gaz@...> Description: N2PK web site archive captured January 1, 2020 from URL: http://n2pk.com/N2PKwebsite.zip Cheers, The Groups.io Team
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N2PK Website 21
Hi All, With the start of the new year, I am seriously considering discontinuing the N2PK.COM website. Assuming I proceed with this, it will likely happen shortly after Feb. 1, 2020. The website will be gone and this will be my only email address. As I believe I have mentioned before, anyone wanting to save all of the N2PK.COM content and then re-display it somewhere else can do so with my agreement as long as that content is credited with me being its author. I would appreciate anyone doing this to notify us all on one and preferably both of these groups. Many thanks to the MANY people who have supported and improved the N2PK VNA over the years, in particular: Ivan (VE3IVM), Dave (G8KBB), Bill (W7AAZ), Harold (W4ZCB - now SK), Tom (DG8SAQ), Greg (W8WWV), Ian (GM3SEK), and Roger (GM4PMK). I suspect there are others that I am not recalling and to those I apologize. It's been a WONDERFUL experience for me! Happy New Year, Paul N2PK
Started by Paul Kiciak @ · Most recent @
N2PK VNA part 1 paper HTML version
Hi Everyone, The HTML version of the paper is published, these three links below cover the 'part 1' PDF. I'm now working on the part 2 PDF, splitting that out too into multiple shorter pages too. Once they are all complete, I can add hyperlinks between them all. Here are the links to the first set: VNA Measurement Examples: https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-94326/l/hf-vector-network-analyzer-some-measurement-examples VNA Theory of Operation: https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-94327/l/hf-vector-network-analyzer-theory-of-operation VNA Performance: https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-94338/l/hf-vector-network-analyzer-performance I think the Part 2 will be split into six sections: VNA Hardware Overview and Schematic VNA Construction Notes VNA Power Interface Board VNA Bridges and Calibration Standards VNA Master Oscillator VNA DDS Buffer and Detector Pre-Amplifier Many thanks, Shabaz.
Started by Shabaz Yousaf @
Import configuration
Hi I am using the myVNA 1.0.0.95 When I import a any configuration ( transmission, S-Parameters etc ) appears tick also " TDR mode only". I have to un tick it and everything works properly. Any explanation ? Thanks Regards IZ2ZNC Gianfranco
Started by canale @
N2PK.COM is Now Defunct 3
Hi All, Ivan has kindly added an archived copy of my now defunct website to his website here: <https://www.makarov.ca/n2pk_archive/index.html> I have also updated my QRZ page to reflect this. Stay safe, Paul
Started by Paul Kiciak @ · Most recent @
trouble
Hi all I have a problem. I calibrate in reflection mode, then I apply again the load used to calibrate and display the Xp. See enclosed the result, glitches ? Help IZ2ZNC Gianfranco
Started by canale @
3.3V MO regulator odd voltage reading 3
I've finished a v5.2 board and the VNA seems to be operating properly. However there was one odd observation that I was hoping someone in the group may have seen before, or have a theory about. The 3.3V regulator that feeds the CW master osc shows 3.3V **without** the CW MO connected. With the CW MO connected, the 3.3V terminal reads about 3.55V. Roughly 0.25V high. Notes: 1. The voltage tracks the 5V rail. If the 5V rail is set to 5.1V, the observed voltage is higher yet, about 3.6V. 2. The regulator is not oscillating. I have measured the voltage at the terminal with 2 HP lab DVM, a fluke, an oscilliscope and a SA. There is some level of the 156 Mhz present on the +3.3V line, but I'm not sure if that's just being picked up by the near proximity of the oscillator's ajacent output. I've replaced both the 0.1 & 10 uF caps ajacent the CW osc just for good measure. 3. The VNA seems to work fine with as-expected noise floor levels. 4. While the CW part is a 3.3V nominal, the abs max voltage is 5V so even if the circuit is truly running at 3.55V, the oscillator is probably not in mortal peril. 5. Checks of nearby points show nothing in the 3.55V or 0.25V range. 6. With the +3.3V feed from the regulator pulled, the voltages around the CW osc are all zero. 7. The CW oscillator output is clean and stable. I can see 2nd/3rd harmonic levels but it looks like it's working fine. 8. Current consumption of the oscillator is about 30 mA which I think is in line with the datasheet values. At the moment I have no explanation for this. Hoping someone would have a theory. Or be able to check their board and see if they have a similar observation on the MO voltage. 73/jeff/ac0c alpha-charlie-zero-charlie www.ac0c.com
Started by Jeff AC0C @ · Most recent @
Single detector PCB
Hi I am wondering whether anyone might have a single detector PCB available. I am looking to update a rather old single detector N2PK VNA to a dual detector for use by a friend. Thanks. Bob, 5B4AGN
Started by Bob, 5B4AGN @
VNA broken
Hello folks, After many years of great service my N2PK VNA has developed a problem, it acts like it's detectors both have poor sensitivity. Can anyone give me some guidance troubleshooting? Drop me a email and I will try to describe the problem a little better and the steps I have taken. Thanks I sure miss this thing!!
Started by kb4j_2000@... @
Problem with measuring Q's of Capacitors
Greetings Q can be derived for either L or C by measuring their complex impedance . In either case Q is a ratio of the real to imaginary values provided by the VNA. I have recently spent considerable hobby time using my N2PK VNA to derive equivalent series resistance (ESR) of high quality fixed capacitors. My bottom line is that accurate measurement becomes increasingly challenging for capacitors with values less than 100 pF and at frequencies below 10MHz or above 100MHz One academic study bluntly concluded that a VNA is unsuited to the task and several manufactures use other measurement instruments. I have a 6-page summary of my efforts, let me know if you would like a copy if anyone 73 Ron W6WO
Started by Ron Skelton @
Problem with measuring Q's of Caps & Inductors 5
Hello All, I haven't posted in years but I need your help now. The hardware is a single detector board with Pauls original coupler board unmodified. The software I'm using is MyVNA version 1.0.0.54 on an XP machine. Problem. I think I'm having problem measuring the correct Q of good Caps and Inductors, I never seem to measure a Q greater than 200. Vacuum Cap or inductors wound on PVC forms. Why is that? Is this to be expected with the original coupler board? Should I be using the wider bandwidth RF-IV sensor PCB for measuring higher impedance parts? Thanks for your time, Dave - wb9own
Started by David Garnier @ · Most recent @
Matching for a Xtal filter 6
Hi Everyone, I hope you're well. Although I have some RF background, I don't do this for a day job, I'm very much a beginner so apologies if I'm asking something basic. I've never had to match such a filter before, but long story short, I have a 8-pole filter model "QMF 10725" which according to the PDF datasheet<https://www.hy-q.com.au/pdf/Filter%20Guide.PDF> looks like 910 ohm in parallel with 25 pF. I wish to match to 50 ohms input and output. According to calculators, that means that I can use a series capacitor of 72 pF and a parallel inductor of 2.4 uH. I didn't get good results when I tried it (not sure how precisely I need to trim the capacitance and inductance - I would say I had the inductance and capacitance to within a few percent since I measured them at 10.7 MHz). With the matching circuit attached to the QMF filter, on a Smith Chart I could not get the 10.7MHz point anywhere near the centre, I was just circling not far from the perimeter! So, I decided to measure the filter on its own (i.e. without any matching) using the RF-IV sensor, to confirm if it is 910 ohm//25pF or not, and I see Rp and Xp as shown in this screenshot: https://app.box.com/s/9706a84esjsi67lbwj6f5goh7g15peps I'm fairly confident I'm using the RF-IV sensor and MyVNA correctly (I tested with known resistances to confirm the OSL calibration), so I have confidence in the measurements. As can be seen, in the filter passband, Rp varies considerably. Xp also varies a lot, in some places inductive, and some capacitive. How can I match it do you think? Should a series C and parallel L be fine, and if so, what values would you suggest? The CSV file of the data is here: https://app.box.com/s/bm6y2g4t560v6hd1cebvaby4mmouci0s The Extended CSV is here: https://app.box.com/s/tq4z0r4ti1myfeofptqmjz9654f9gj6m Many thanks, Shabaz.
Started by Shabaz Yousaf @ · Most recent @
Going through older lockdown projects
As WFH and sorting out stuff, I have also managed to go through some of the older projects I needed to complete from 2006 and found I have a V4.1 dual detector N2PK and an original N2PK to make up. Got the dicast enclosures as well as all the parts (phew). Lacking PSU and sma/Ntype chassis connectors though. Seem to have a USB to LPT control project as well for the N2PK control based on a Cyrus chipset? Hope to pop back as I melt solder on these and to find more destructions and ideas. I see the N2PK site was archived so grabbed copies of that too now. 73 Dom M1KTA
Started by Dom Baines M1KTA @
Calibration KIT standards
Hi all in myVNA the calibration standards are defined in terms of fringe capacitance, resistance, inductance ( load )etc etc. I purchase a calibration KIT with parts from Rosemberger , they define the standards in term of delay from the reference plan . How is possible to transform the value parameters between the two definitions ? The standard by default in myVNA are referred to which calibration KIT ? Thanks to all Regards IZ2ZNC Gianfranco
Started by canale @
Message archive from Yahoo group. 4
Hello, Has someone captured all of the messages from N2PK yahoo group? Thanks, Dave - wb9own
Started by David Garnier @ · Most recent @
MyVNA/N2PK VNA Axis update problem 3
Group - For many many years my N2PK/MyVNA combo has been great. Recently I have gotten it into a state and not found an exit. With a short cable from RF Out to Detector 1 and the M2PK ion transmission mode, the sweep looks perfect: flat with loss < .01 dB. With no cable, the trace is very noisy and loss is just a little more than .01 dB. The trace looks like the trace normally seen with no input, which normally is -85 to -90 dB. So the trace seems to be correct but the vertical axis labels were not updated. I tried clicking on AutoScale many times, restting the N2PK, and restarting MyVNA. I find nothing in Display Options nor in the window that appears after left clicking on the plot. So what have I done? Chuck
Started by chutton12000 @ · Most recent @
simultaneous s11 and S21 mewasurements 17
Hopefully one of the experts can help me decide if I should dig farther. I built a dual (2 detector) version the the LTC2440 (faster) ADC converters at least a dozen years ago. I'm not really sure about the years because they just fly by. Well the VNA has been great for me for a number of projects (thanks Paul and others) and I have kept it alive my keeping an old win 2000 machine with the parallel port. In the last year with the combination of the more convenient nanoVNA and keeping a parallel port machine alive, I have retired my N2VNA to the ex-project pile. Recently I wanted to make a some low frequency power supply and PID control loop measurements and thought that the N2PK VNA could be adopted for this purpose. With the non-integrated source and detector ports (2) (external bridge) , I thought I could modify the bridge and make a specialized bridge for these measurements. As a reference you can look at the RIdleyEngineering software and injection measurements he makes with his low frequency analyzer (AP310). In order to make these measurements I think I would need to make the following adjustments, hopefully someone can provide me some feedback if this is possible. I've been using exciter which can measure both S21 and S11 but not simultaneously. In addition I still use the parallel port, but I purchased the USB adapter years ago but never completed the build. My question are: 1) Which of the more modern software interfaces supports measuring both S21 and S11 at the same time. This would be required to perform injection measurements. https://www.ridleyengineering.com/hardware/ap310-analyzer/ap300-application/ap300-loop-injection.html 2) Does any of the software support sweeping below 50kHz. This is the exciter low freq limitation and also the DDS transformer limit. I don't mind changing the hardware to make this a low freq only analyzer 3) Could I use my unfinished WB6DHW HSUSB_R1 interface to support the correct software? 4) Are there better/easier ways to make these low freq phase and amplitude measurements (100Hz - 2MHz) than the above concept. Thanks in advance for any suggestions Brian
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