Stein ... Western States Envelope Co. in Butler, Wi sells their Digi-Clear laser-safe envelopes in #10s. You should be sure your double windows are laser safe.?
Wouldn't double windowed envelopes just double your problem?? Or are they windows with no plastic?
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 2:17?PM Stein Goering < sgoering@...> wrote: A footnote on my nonprofit app demo: ? One feature I showed was the donor receipt letter which had the recipient¡¯s address positioned to show up in a window envelope.? ?I noted that I had bought single-window envelopes (since that¡¯s what Walmart had in stock) so I planned to put return addresses on by running each envelope through my laser printer.? Jim warned that might be a problem if the windows were made of plastic film due to the heat of the laser rollers.? I said I¡¯d tried one and it seemed to work fine but figured I¡¯d better do some more testing,? So I ran through another half dozen envelopes when I got home.? The first one came through OK, but subsequent envelopes got increasingly distorted as things heated up and the plastic shrank.? So I went ahead and special ordered a box of double-window envelopes (which a should have done in the first place) ¨C that should allow both he return and recipient addresses to show through from the letter.? ? Thanks to Jim for the heads up ¨C I¡¯m glad I caught this now and not next week when I¡¯m trying to get the receipts sent out before the end of the year. ? If anyone needs some single-window envelopes I¡¯ll make you a good deal¡ ? --stein ? On Dec 20, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Eric Selje <eric.selje@...> wrote: With the revelation that some folks are still tuning in, here's a meeting recap from December 2023: 4 people attended in person: Eric, Stein, Cliff, and Jim. 1 person attended remotely:? Jack (If you tell us you want to attend remotely, we'll turn on the Google Meet) Cliff gave a demonstration of his interface to the OpenAI API. He wrote a UI that lets the user tweak settings such as "Temperature" to fine tune the type of results you get. We ran some queries using "One Shot" and then using templates to get repeatable results formatted properly. He explained the billing, via "tokens" which you may want to constrain to keep costs down. Stein is transforming his nonprofit project from a VFP Windows app to a web (Vue.js) and West Wind application. We did a little troubleshooting to figure out why the app that worked perfectly on one PC crashed when he moved it to his laptop (ended up forcing a recompile by changing a function signature which we think was the solution). There's still work to do. We talked about the security implications of adding a file upload to the app vs doing it via CPanel. Eric briefly demonstrated the Advent of Code project, which are essentially word problem challenges for developers. It'd be fun to try to solve these using FoxPro if I had the extra time. Jim reiterated the advantages of doing business locally. That wraps up our 2023 year. I think we only missed one meeting this year due to the timing of Southwest Fox.? The dates for VFF and Southwest Fox 2024 have been announced so look for an email from Rick Schummer soon and hopefully we'll see some of you there!
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Wouldn't double windowed envelopes just double your problem?? Or are they windows with no plastic?
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 2:17?PM Stein Goering < sgoering@...> wrote: A footnote on my nonprofit app demo: ? One feature I showed was the donor receipt letter which had the recipient¡¯s address positioned to show up in a window envelope.? ?I noted that I had bought single-window envelopes (since that¡¯s what Walmart had in stock) so I planned to put return addresses on by running each envelope through my laser printer.? Jim warned that might be a problem if the windows were made of plastic film due to the heat of the laser rollers.? I said I¡¯d tried one and it seemed to work fine but figured I¡¯d better do some more testing,? So I ran through another half dozen envelopes when I got home.? The first one came through OK, but subsequent envelopes got increasingly distorted as things heated up and the plastic shrank.? So I went ahead and special ordered a box of double-window envelopes (which a should have done in the first place) ¨C that should allow both he return and recipient addresses to show through from the letter.? ? Thanks to Jim for the heads up ¨C I¡¯m glad I caught this now and not next week when I¡¯m trying to get the receipts sent out before the end of the year. ? If anyone needs some single-window envelopes I¡¯ll make you a good deal¡ ? --stein ? On Dec 20, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Eric Selje <eric.selje@...> wrote: With the revelation that some folks are still tuning in, here's a meeting recap from December 2023: 4 people attended in person: Eric, Stein, Cliff, and Jim. 1 person attended remotely:? Jack (If you tell us you want to attend remotely, we'll turn on the Google Meet) Cliff gave a demonstration of his interface to the OpenAI API. He wrote a UI that lets the user tweak settings such as "Temperature" to fine tune the type of results you get. We ran some queries using "One Shot" and then using templates to get repeatable results formatted properly. He explained the billing, via "tokens" which you may want to constrain to keep costs down. Stein is transforming his nonprofit project from a VFP Windows app to a web (Vue.js) and West Wind application. We did a little troubleshooting to figure out why the app that worked perfectly on one PC crashed when he moved it to his laptop (ended up forcing a recompile by changing a function signature which we think was the solution). There's still work to do. We talked about the security implications of adding a file upload to the app vs doing it via CPanel. Eric briefly demonstrated the Advent of Code project, which are essentially word problem challenges for developers. It'd be fun to try to solve these using FoxPro if I had the extra time. Jim reiterated the advantages of doing business locally. That wraps up our 2023 year. I think we only missed one meeting this year due to the timing of Southwest Fox.? The dates for VFF and Southwest Fox 2024 have been announced so look for an email from Rick Schummer soon and hopefully we'll see some of you there!
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A footnote on my nonprofit app demo: ? One feature I showed was the donor receipt letter which had the recipient¡¯s address positioned to show up in a window envelope.? ?I noted that I had bought single-window envelopes (since that¡¯s what Walmart had in stock) so I planned to put return addresses on by running each envelope through my laser printer.? Jim warned that might be a problem if the windows were made of plastic film due to the heat of the laser rollers.? I said I¡¯d tried one and it seemed to work fine but figured I¡¯d better do some more testing,? So I ran through another half dozen envelopes when I got home.? The first one came through OK, but subsequent envelopes got increasingly distorted as things heated up and the plastic shrank.? So I went ahead and special ordered a box of double-window envelopes (which a should have done in the first place) ¨C that should allow both he return and recipient addresses to show through from the letter.? ? Thanks to Jim for the heads up ¨C I¡¯m glad I caught this now and not next week when I¡¯m trying to get the receipts sent out before the end of the year. ? If anyone needs some single-window envelopes I¡¯ll make you a good deal¡ ? --stein ?
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On Dec 20, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Eric Selje < eric.selje@...> wrote: With the revelation that some folks are still tuning in, here's a meeting recap from December 2023: 4 people attended in person: Eric, Stein, Cliff, and Jim. 1 person attended remotely:? Jack (If you tell us you want to attend remotely, we'll turn on the Google Meet) Cliff gave a demonstration of his interface to the OpenAI API. He wrote a UI that lets the user tweak settings such as "Temperature" to fine tune the type of results you get. We ran some queries using "One Shot" and then using templates to get repeatable results formatted properly. He explained the billing, via "tokens" which you may want to constrain to keep costs down. Stein is transforming his nonprofit project from a VFP Windows app to a web (Vue.js) and West Wind application. We did a little troubleshooting to figure out why the app that worked perfectly on one PC crashed when he moved it to his laptop (ended up forcing a recompile by changing a function signature which we think was the solution). There's still work to do. We talked about the security implications of adding a file upload to the app vs doing it via CPanel. Eric briefly demonstrated the Advent of Code project, which are essentially word problem challenges for developers. It'd be fun to try to solve these using FoxPro if I had the extra time. Jim reiterated the advantages of doing business locally. That wraps up our 2023 year. I think we only missed one meeting this year due to the timing of Southwest Fox.? The dates for VFF and Southwest Fox 2024 have been announced so look for an email from Rick Schummer soon and hopefully we'll see some of you there!
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With the revelation that some folks are still tuning in, here's a meeting recap from December 2023:
4 people attended in person: Eric, Stein, Cliff, and Jim.
1 person attended remotely:? Jack (If you tell us you want to attend remotely, we'll turn on the Google Meet)
Cliff gave a demonstration of his interface to the OpenAI API. He wrote a UI that lets the user tweak settings such as "Temperature" to fine tune the type of results you get. We ran some queries using "One Shot" and then using templates to get repeatable results formatted properly. He explained the billing, via "tokens" which you may want to constrain to keep costs down.
Stein is transforming his nonprofit project from a VFP Windows app to a web (Vue.js) and West Wind application. We did a little troubleshooting to figure out why the app that worked perfectly on one PC crashed when he moved it to his laptop (ended up forcing a recompile by changing a function signature which we think was the solution).
There's still work to do. We talked about the security implications of adding a file upload to the app vs doing it via CPanel.
Eric briefly demonstrated the Advent of Code project, which are essentially word problem challenges for developers. It'd be fun to try to solve these using FoxPro if I had the extra time.
Jim reiterated the advantages of doing business locally.
That wraps up our 2023 year. I think we only missed one meeting this year due to the timing of Southwest Fox.? The dates for VFF and Southwest Fox 2024 have been announced so look for an email from Rick Schummer soon and hopefully we'll see some of you there!
Eric
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Dang - I miss another meal!? I too follow these threads and would love to get a little AI intro - perhaps future meeting.
Merry Christmas to everyone - it's coming up quickly especially with no snow.
Peter
If you hurry you guys can get up here and eat w/ us!
Eric
I'm still a lurker too! Wishing everyone a Joyous Season!
Dave
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I'm still a lurker too! Wishing everyone a Joyous Season!
Dave
On Dec 19, 2023 2:35 PM, "P.J. Fernandez" <pjfern2@...> wrote: Still reading the messages.? Very commendable that you continue?to meet.
Many good wishes to all of you!
PJ
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
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Yes... here's a link!
MadFox
Tuesday, December 19 ¡¤ 5:30 ¨C 8:30pm
Time zone: America/Chicago
Google Meet joining info
Video call link:
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 1:44?PM Jack Smith < jack@...> wrote:
Can I attend remotely?
?
On 12/19/2023 12:15 PM CST cliff < cliff@...> wrote:
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say just after 4:00
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Cliff
Cliff Smith / HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/19/23 10:44 AM, Stein Goering wrote:
Cliff, what time are you planning to leave?? I¡¯ve done some more work on the Sister City database that I could demonstrate.
?
--sg
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of cliff
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MadFox] Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023 #cal-reminder
?
Are we on for tonight - I am ready to do the OpenAI thing and hopefully Eric will get there before they throw us out ?
--
Cliff
Cliff Smith / HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/16/23 5:30 PM, Group Notification wrote:
Reminder: MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje eric.selje@... 608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Now: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-notice
MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje
eric.selje@...
608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Still reading the messages.? Very commendable that you continue?to meet.
Many good wishes to all of you!
PJ
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
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On 12/19/2023 12:15 PM CST cliff <cliff@...> wrote:
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?
say just after 4:00
--
Cliff
Cliff Smith / HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/19/23 10:44 AM, Stein Goering wrote:
Cliff, what time are you planning to leave?? I¡¯ve done some more work on the Sister City database that I could demonstrate.
?
--sg
?
From: [email protected] On Behalf Of cliff
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MadFox] Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023 #cal-reminder
?
Are we on for tonight - I am ready to do the OpenAI thing and hopefully Eric will get there before they throw us out ?
--
Cliff
Cliff Smith / HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/16/23 5:30 PM, Group Notification wrote:
Reminder: MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje eric.selje@... 608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
say just after 4:00
--
Cliff
Cliff Smith /
HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/19/23 10:44 AM, Stein Goering
wrote:
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Cliff, what
time are you planning to leave?? I¡¯ve done some more work on
the Sister City database that I could demonstrate.
?
--sg
?
From: [email protected] On
Behalf Of cliff
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MadFox] Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup
- Tuesday, December 19, 2023 #cal-reminder
?
Are we on for tonight - I am ready to do the OpenAI thing and
hopefully Eric will get there before they throw us out ?
--
Cliff
Cliff
Smith / HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/16/23 5:30 PM, Group Notification
wrote:
Reminder:
MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer:
Eric Selje eric.selje@... 608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about
anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group
but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile
Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream
the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like
to join us online.
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
Since 'tis the season, we can discuss as well!
E
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 10:44?AM Stein Goering < sgoering@...> wrote: Cliff, what time are you planning to leave?? I¡¯ve done some more work on the Sister City database that I could demonstrate. ? --sg ? From: [email protected] On Behalf Of cliff
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MadFox] Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023 #cal-reminder ? Are we on for tonight - I am ready to do the OpenAI thing and hopefully Eric will get there before they throw us out ?
--
Cliff
Cliff Smith / HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/16/23 5:30 PM, Group Notification wrote: Reminder: MadFox Monthly Meetup When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago Where:
Sauk City Library Organizer: Eric Selje eric.selje@... 608-213-9567 View Event Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
Cliff, what time are you planning to leave?? I¡¯ve done some more work on the Sister City database that I could demonstrate. ? --sg ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of cliff Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 10:01 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MadFox] Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023 #cal-reminder ? Are we on for tonight - I am ready to do the OpenAI thing and hopefully Eric will get there before they throw us out ?
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Cliff
Cliff Smith / HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/16/23 5:30 PM, Group Notification wrote: Reminder: MadFox Monthly Meetup When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago Where:
Sauk City Library Organizer: Eric Selje eric.selje@... 608-213-9567 View Event Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
I'll be there!
Rich do you need a ride?
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 10:01?AM cliff < cliff@...> wrote:
Are we on for tonight - I am ready to do the OpenAI thing and
hopefully Eric will get there before they throw us out ?
--
Cliff
Cliff Smith /
HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/16/23 5:30 PM, Group Notification
wrote:
Reminder:
MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje eric.selje@... 608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything
development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we
talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development,
Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the
meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join
us online.
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
Are we on for tonight - I am ready to do the OpenAI thing and
hopefully Eric will get there before they throw us out ?
--
Cliff
Cliff Smith /
HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
On 12/16/23 5:30 PM, Group Notification
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Reminder:
MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje eric.selje@... 608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything
development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we
talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development,
Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the
meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join
us online.
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Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
Reminder: MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje
eric.selje@...
608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, December 19, 2023
#cal-reminder
Reminder: MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje
eric.selje@...
608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Re: Event: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, November 21, 2023
#cal-reminder
So I have done a MAJOR refactor of my OpenAI demo and would
appreciate some feedback - hawkrdg.com/sandbox and the unlock key
is still the same. Some of this was because I was unhappy with the
cluttered layout and I also wanted to see just how easy animations
are in Angular (easy peasy, actually). I hit one website that uses
sliding windows for certain functionality and I kinda like that.
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Cliff
Cliff Smith /
HawkRidge
1 (608) 373-4716 / cliff@...
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Now: MadFox Monthly Meetup - Tuesday, November 21, 2023
#cal-notice
MadFox Monthly Meetup
When:
Tuesday, November 21, 2023
5:30pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-06:00) America/Chicago
Where:
Sauk City Library
Organizer: Eric Selje
eric.selje@...
608-213-9567
View Event
Description:
Join us for our monthly get together. We can talk about anything development related. We started as a FoxPro group but now we talk about even more: Web Development, Mobile Development, Music, SQL Server and other databases, etc.
We are meeting in person again, but will try to livestream the meeting as well thanks to Aceware!? RSVP if you'd like to join us online.
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Eric Selje
Peter Diotte
cliff