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I realise that this is not an answer to why the error is present, but if the error is consistent, then have you thought of lying to Mach and telling it that the plate is only 0.06374" thick.

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Yes, and no.
It depends on the motion controller.

So, for example swapaxis was not a solution with the smoothstepper (not supported), On Mach3.

It will hopefully by easy and standard in Mach4.
I dont have the new controller (quite) on the lathe yet, to say about the lathe.

Working on this, with CSMIO-IPS, and 2 lathes.

So, I dont have any idea quite yet about multispindle support on Mach4.
You also need to control the acceleration profiles, and homing, when switching modes.
(Limits, maybe).

I have not tried swapaxis with CSMIO and M3, as the plan is I will be going directly to Mach4 (if it turns out to thread well).
Soon(ish) I hope to have it running.
Making motor mounts and broaching pulleys and doing cables, etc. Have 13 more servo drives to do..
The new servos all work very well, on the table, they just need to go on the machine.

There are all sorts of ways of doing it out-of-band with modbus, RS232, or analog signals.
The right way to do it, is with direct support from Mach4 and the motion control plugin.

Hopefully I will state this in terms that make sense.? Can Mach3 or Mach4 change modes on the fly?? E.G. Can I change from a spindle(lathe) to an axis(indexer) without quitting and reloading a different profile.

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i don't have an answer for your specific problem but i do want to say that Mach3 is ready for a production environment. the machine i just built has just one screen with everything needed on it including custom buttons which are just needed for setting up a session. all the work that an operator needs to do is done with a two button pendant. i do not do any tool changes because i wanted it faster that a tool change would allow so i have a second spindle. a member of this group suggested something to try that greatly simplified the second spindle.

i am machining three surfaces of small parts and can make a single part in less than 2 minutes and can also make them in batches, doing one surface of a number of parts in each batch. to do this i need to alternately load two different programs. one program with pauses would force me to choose between single part and batch mode and i want to be able to do this without getting confused or forcing a quit of the program.

it took me a while and a number of questions to this group to get it all working and at various points it seemed that it might not be possible to do what i wanted or at least for me to figure out how to do it. Mach3 is so versatile and so configurable that pretty much anything should be possible. you just need to figure out how :)

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The more I use Mach3 the more I am getting confused and worried that the software is not ready for a production environment.

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I have this sample code.

I have in my tool table 5 bits defined with only the diameters defined.

Bit 1 = 12.7mm, but 2 = 3mm,bit 3 = 4mm, bit 4=5mm, bit 5=8mm

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When I execute this sample code, the machine goes to tool change position (for the 1rst tool change) but then lower the z-axis to the Z-Zero position which is on the table top.

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Then I change the first tool from tool 02 to tool 03, and executed this code, then it works fine in that the spindle is going to the tool change position and sat in the define z-axis position high enough for me to do the tool change.

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I then deleted all the diameters and make sure the tool table is empty. Then this code is working 100%

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Why is this?

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N10 (PROGRAM PRODUCED? - 16 FEB 15)

N20 G21 G90 (UNITS METRIC)

N30 G40 G91.1

N40 T02 M06 G43 H02

N50 S24000 M03

N60 G0 X137.624 Y189.342

N70 G1 Z6. F2000

N80 X756.535 F5000

N90 T07 M06 G43 H07

N100 S18000 M03

N110 G0 X535.95 Y604.95

N120 G1 G42 D17 X493.95 Y598.6 Z8. F2000

N130 X106.6 F10000

N140 Y528.75

N150 G2 X100.25 Y522.4 I-6.35 J0.

N160 G1 X5.

N170 Y5.

N180 X881.3

N190 Y598.6

N200 X493.95

N210 X481.25

N220 G40 X439.25 Y604.95 Z21.

N230 G0 X535.95 Y604.95

N240 G1 G42 D17 X493.95 Y598.6 Z0. F2000

N250 X106.6 F10000

N260 Y528.75

N270 G2 X100.25 Y522.4 I-6.35

N280 G1 X5.

N290 Y5.

N300 X881.3

N310 Y598.6

N320 X493.95

N330 X481.25

N340 G40 X439.25 Y604.95 Z13.

N350 M05 M30

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I have recently installed the Big-Tex Probing screen v3.2 which seems to work absolutely fine.

However, after much testing now, I am getting a consistent error in that, once I take the touch plate away and 'GotoZero' I am always left with a clearance of 0.015" above the workpiece?

I have checked and re-checked everything I can think of which would affect the accuracy of the machine as follows.

1. Z axis movement 100% accurate when measured using a DTI (within 0.0005 over a 1" travel).
2. Plate thickness set at 0.07874" (2mm Brass Plate).
3. Z axis movement is smoothly operating with no binding.
4. All offsets set to zero prior to using the probe function.
5. Have tried various 'Debounce' settings between 0 - 2000 with no improvement or difference.

The Z axis has a 3" total movement (Marchant Dice manufactured) and has proved itself over time to be very reliable and accurate.

I really am stumped as to where this inaccuracy is coming from as most people seem to get very good results using this screenset - it's just that I can't seem to get the accuracy that I'm looking for.

Has anyone any idea why this is happening - or am I being too hopeful in looking for this degree of accuracy. ??

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that is the same PSP i bought. only ORIVeDA seemed to care about testing and publishing the results. i was not impressed with most of the products mass marketed in health food stores.

the routing machines from the link below look like just what i need if my current machine fails or becomes too expensive to maintain. it is a modified emco machine that is extremely sturdy and well made in most respects. if the spindle motor (a very expensive servo motor) fails i will stick in a common router where the spindle bearings currently are. i prefer the emco for now because i am making small vise held parts and also have the option to make intricate metal parts. i doubt the wood routers would have the rigidity to work well on metal, especially stainless.

just yesterday i got my screen modifications done and can do everything from one page with a few custom buttons for spindle control, referencing with one button and an MDI line just in case i need it. my two button pendant starts and stops the loaded program and also changes programs so i can machine all three faces of a part to make one at a time or run it in batches, whichever way i want. it is pretty much an ideal machine for making these particular parts fast and accurately.

COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT MACH3 AND THIS FORUM

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Spencer,

You’ve made day to hear about the benefits of Turkey Tail from someone who’s not trying to sell it to me. I buy my mother this...??

And it seems to do the trick. As someone who’s beaten cancer, collar or no collar on your leather vest will do just fine.

Tom.

Thanks.? ??Is this the sort of thing you’re after...

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Chuck.

I’m not well up on American slang, is ‘sick’ good or bad. If bad is good, I can’t lose.

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In a message dated 15/02/2015 08:10:55 GMT Standard Time, mach1mach2cnc@... writes:

Hi Dave,

Excellent job, I like it.:-))

There's a lot of chips around there, how did you know I didn't?pay my?attentions to chip conveyor?

And the holy grail of conflict (MPG) is missing.:-)

Thanks for the invitation to Yorkshire, I look forward to visit you one day.

Tom

2015-02-14 14:09 GMT+01:00 qconvers@... [mach1mach2cnc] <mach1mach2cnc@...>:

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I had a quick play with Photoshop yesterday to create the multi-axes machine in my head.

It’s a bit disjointed as I couldn’t compute what it would do.

It’s not a representation of Tom, but just a guy I thought would like axes.

Tom, if you like beer and ever do visit me, you’re in for a treat. I live in Yorkshire and we have many fine breweries.

In the end I concluded such a machine must make wooden dragons...

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Cheers

Dave K

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Spencer,

You’ve made day to hear about the benefits of Turkey Tail from someone who’s not trying to sell it to me. I buy my mother this...??

And it seems to do the trick. As someone who’s beaten cancer, collar or no collar on your leather vest will do just fine.

Tom.

Thanks.? ??Is this the sort of thing you’re after...

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Chuck.

I’m not well up on American slang, is ‘sick’ good or bad. If bad is good, I can’t lose.

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In a message dated 15/02/2015 08:10:55 GMT Standard Time, mach1mach2cnc@... writes:

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i took turkey tail extract (PSP) while undergoing radiation treatment for prostate cancer and had virtually no side effects. i still take it daily just to be sure?

turkey tail is one of the most abundant mushroom wold wide. i recently harvested a bunch from a log in the park near me. unfortunately the fruiting bodies do not contain the PSP (poly saccharide peptide, i think) that helps your body deal with cancer. there is stuff in the fruiting bodies that can boost your immune system so i will probably use them to make tea.

even turkey tail can be difficult to culture and since the are so abundant it makes more sense to find them in their natural habitat unless you want to extract the PSP from the mycelium? which is where you find it. probably best to buy the stuff from a reputable vendor. there are plenty who are not so do your homework before buying.

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That could be so, or they could be something else in my head....? I've been trying to grow mushrooms in saw dust.?? Lions Main mushrooms?have a unique protein that can cross the blood/ brain boundary and stimulate new growth.. better memory.

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Turkey Tail mushrooms can boost your immune system enough to stop the growth of cancer!...

I've seen this in my own mum...

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In a message dated 14/02/2015 16:32:50 GMT Standard Time, mach1mach2cnc@... writes:

that is perfect and green too. i assume the mushrooms turn the wood chips into compost.

On 2/14/2015 5:09 AM, qconvers@... [mach1mach2cnc] wrote:

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I had a quick play with Photoshop yesterday to create the multi-axes machine in my head.

It’s a bit disjointed as I couldn’t compute what it would do.

It’s not a representation of Tom, but just a guy I thought would like axes.

Tom, if you like beer and ever do visit me, you’re in for a treat. I live in Yorkshire and we have many fine breweries.

In the end I concluded such a machine must make wooden dragons...

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Cheers

Dave K

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sick? i thought someone finally understood my needs in a CNC machine. i need a few more details in order to finish mine. what species of mushroom is best and is the mounting angle of the stepper motors critical? also, my leather vest does not have a collar. is that necessary for appropriate operator attire?

anxiously awaiting a reply, the market for carved wooden dragons is huge.

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you have a very sick mind Dave.....LOL

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From: "qconvers@... [mach1mach2cnc]"
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:09 AM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] CNC Multi Axe Saw Machine

>I had a quick play with Photoshop yesterday to create the multi-axes
>machine in my head.
> It’s a bit disjointed as I couldn’t compute what it would do.
> It’s not a representation of Tom, but just a guy I thought would like
> axes.
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> Tom, if you like beer and ever do visit me, you’re in for a treat. I live
> in Yorkshire and we have many fine breweries.
>
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> In the end I concluded such a machine must make wooden dragons...
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> Cheers
> Dave K
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you have a very sick mind Dave.....LOL

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From 8 mins in. Be prepared to shed a tear...

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In a message dated 14/02/2015 17:11:46 GMT Standard Time, mach1mach2cnc@... writes:

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That could be so, or they could be something else in my head....? I've been trying to grow mushrooms in saw dust.?? Lions Main mushrooms?have a unique protein that can cross the blood/ brain boundary and stimulate new growth.. better memory.

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Turkey Tail mushrooms can boost your immune system enough to stop the growth of cancer!...

I've seen this in my own mum...

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In a message dated 14/02/2015 16:32:50 GMT Standard Time, mach1mach2cnc@... writes:

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that is perfect and green too. i assume the mushrooms turn the wood chips into compost.

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I had a quick play with Photoshop yesterday to create the multi-axes machine in my head.

It’s a bit disjointed as I couldn’t compute what it would do.

It’s not a representation of Tom, but just a guy I thought would like axes.

Tom, if you like beer and ever do visit me, you’re in for a treat. I live in Yorkshire and we have many fine breweries.

In the end I concluded such a machine must make wooden dragons...

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Cheers

Dave K

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Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...

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How should Mach know how far you need to lift your Z axis?? That is a function of your set up on each job.



On some jobs you may need to raise higher to avoid clamps or fixtures, etc. You need to set your retract height/clearance plane in your GCode NOT a setting in Mach 3. Most CAM programs have a setting for clearance plane but again it is not always going to be the same from job to job so you may have a default of 1” but you have to know when you need to set it differently for a particular job.



Jeff Birt

Soigeneris.com



From: mach1mach2cnc@... [mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:46 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Rapid Safe Z





Hi



This will set the limit, but where do I define the distance the router will lift from the workpiece when moving during the form one location to the next. Because I set my Z-Zero on top of my table and not the top of the workpiece. As I said earlier. Currently my spindle lift about a clearance of 80mm above the workpiece, leaving only 2mm till maximum z- travel limit.



From: mach1mach2cnc@... [mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]
Sent: 14 February 2015 03:26 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Rapid Safe Z





Config
Ports and pins
Safe z
Set safe Z to whatever



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