Hi, again. Marsha, I'm also wondering if you've tried temporarily
setting JAWS to what is called alternate user directory mode. This
is used for diagnostic purposes and it essentially uses JAWS with
default settings. To toggle in or out of this mode press the
layered keystroke insert-space, followed by the letter Z. You
should hear JAWS verify that you're in this mode using the
Eloquence voice with the default speech settings although
sometimes other voices with unexpected speech settings are used.
If this happens just switch to the voice and speech settings that
are preferable. However, these settings aren't going to be saved
but this mode can be temporarily used to see if JAWS is still
generating that error message when you exit the Find pane. If it
behaves normally then something may have gotten corrupted in your
student's profile and it may then be necessary to remove the
student's Word settings to start over. This, of course, does not
remove the actual settings in the Word application itself.
In addition, if your student likes using the JAWS find command
you can remind the student that pressing insert-f3 finds and moves
to the next occurrence of the word that was being searched for and
shift-insert-f3 moves to the previous instance. Navigation quick
keys needs to be enabled with insert-z in order for these search
capabilities to work. I personally prefer hotkeys which are easier
to press and if this is the case for your student you can use the
JAWS Keyboard Manager to add other keys for these functions.
Personally, I prefer ctrl-F for Find, f3 for Find Next and
shift-f3 for Find Previous but Word does use the function keys for
its own functions so not all users will like my choices. As an
alternative you could use ctrl-F for JAWS Find, shift-ctrl-F for
Find next and alt-shift-f for Find Previous.
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
On 9/16/2020 10:00 AM, Marsha Drenth
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David,
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Good suggestion. I did have my student
unload JAWS and restart word. Next lesson, we will try the
JAWS find. I thought it might be just in the one document so
had her open a different document, but again happened. The
reason that this is an issue is that this individual uses Word
every day all day long and uses the find command to jump from
different parts of a very long document. So after getting this
message a million times, I am sure it would drive me batty
too. Ha ha
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Thank you,
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Marsha Drenth, Access Technology
Instructor
Associated Services for the Blind
and Visually Impaired
919 Walnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19107
Personal:215-821-6151
Office: 215-627-0600 Ext. 3254
FAX: 215-922-0692
Email: MDrenth@...
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Marsha,
I personally haven't encountered this problem but the message
that your student is hearing is normally what you would hear
if you pressed insert-C for read word in context in situations
where this hotkey doesn't apply or function.
Like you I'm unable to reproduce this problem. Does this happen even if your student closes and restarts JAWS? Does it occur if Word is also closed and restarted?
As a workaround your student could try using the JAWS Find command with quick keys enabled.
1. Press insert-Z to enable quick keys.
2. Press insert-ctrl-F for the JAWS find dialog. Type the text string to find and press enter.
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One advantage of this method is that the cursor should land right on the text and your student won't need to press the escape key to close the find dialog.
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David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
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JAWS Certified, 2019
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On 9/15/2020 2:38 PM, Marsha Drenth
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I have a student who uses Jaws
2019, with MS word 2013 and Windows 10. When doing a
simple search, control+F, types in the ssearch term,
presses enter, which then takes her to the first search
result. Then the escape is used to get out of the find,
Jaws reports, ¡°Not available outside of tables or
Spellchecker in Office 2013 or later.¡± I can not
reproduce this message. All Jaws updates have been
applied. And I can¡¯t imagine why this is happening,
since it was only stated once the escape key was
pressed.
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Any ideas?
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Thank you, ?
Marsha Drenth, Access Technology
Instructor
Associated Services for the Blind and
Visually Impaired
919 Walnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19107
Personal:215-821-6151
Office: 215-627-0600 Ext. 3254
FAX: 215-922-0692
Email: MDrenth@...
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