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Trying to write instructions for a Member as to how to save a picture from the Group's PHOTOS section......

To “Save pictures FROM the Group TO your computer.

1-Go to the Group Home page.

/g/SparrevohnSurvivors

2-Click on Photos on the Group Menu…(on computers it’s down the left side of the screen, on phones you have to manipulate the selections at the bottom of the screen).

3-Scroll to the Album of your interest and Left-click on it.

4-Scroll to the individual Photo of your interest and Left-click on it.

5-Scroll to the bottom of the screen and Left-click on the DOWNLOAD button.

At this point, the screen expands the picture to a larger view and offers no downloading option........works or don't work this way in three groups, (one paid and two free), and in one actually switches to different picture......is something wrong or am I doing it wrong?

Tks,
Chuck

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 02:40 PM, Charles Roberts wrote:

3-Scroll to the Album of your interest and Left-click on it.

4-Scroll to the individual Photo of your interest and Left-click on it.

5-Scroll to the bottom of the screen and Left-click on the DOWNLOAD button.

At this point, the screen expands the picture to a larger view and offers no downloading option....

Chick,

You are almost there, but you still have one more step needed.

On the page with the larger view of the picture, do a Right-Click on top of the picture and then select "Save Image As" (Chrome) or "Save picture as" (MS Edge)

Other browsers may behave differently.




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O-M-G, is that ever clumsy.....but it WORKS!? Many thanks to you Gerald, you're a Prince.

Chuck

When you see that larger picture, right click and select save image as and select where you want to save it when the Save As screen opens.?
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 07:01 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:

You are almost there, but you still have one more step needed.

On the page with the larger view of the picture, do a Right-Click on top of the picture and then select "Save Image As" (Chrome) or "Save picture as" (MS Edge)

Other browsers may behave differently.

If you have a Mac and use the Photos application, on the page with the larger view of the picture, right-click on the picture and choose Add image to Photos. It will be in Imports in Photos on your computer.

Frances
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On my Mac, I can download the photo (save image to downloads or somewhere else. / some other folder) Or add image to Photos. Or copy the address or the image. Or share.

But usually I want to put the photo in my Photos application.

Frances

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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 03:36 PM, Charles Roberts wrote:

is this the way saving a pic is supposed to work here?? Anywhere else DOWNLOAD means DOWNLOAD.

Yes, that's the way it works here.? At one time, it was changed to attempt to actually download a photo, but it broke most (all?) of the browsers that use the Firefox base, so was reverted to this version.

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It would be interesting to know how Yahoo did this. That was one thing that worked very well. Clicking on the little download icon on a thumbnail image would bring up the file saving dialog. It took very little effort to save photos from the web site.

Jonathan

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 05:34 PM, Jonathan Sivier wrote:

It would be interesting to know how Yahoo did this. That was one thing that worked very well.

It was probably done by forcing the mime type, which frankly isn't that reliable, either.

The behavior on sending a binary data stream depends on file type, in association with client-side configuration/add-ons. For example, if I click on a PDF file from the Files area, it also opens in my browser; and we recently had a thread here about the CSV file being displayed instead of opening a download dialog box when you export your member list.

However, this should probably be revisited. HTML5 introduced the "download" attribute for the <A> tag in 2015, and I suspect most browsers are now supporting it.?

Ref:?

Bruce

If the DOWNLOAD button is not going to download anything, then it should offer the user a dialog box to follow rather than assuming they can figure out what to do next.? Most of my members are in their 80's and don't share all the current "high-tech" lingo or intuitivity but still might want to save a pic.
Just saying...
Chuck

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>>>On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 09:05 PM, Margo Seegrist wrote:

I can copy it directly from groups.io and embed it right into my email using the copy and past<<<

A note that pasting an image into both/either an emailed or web post (‘er message) is haphazard at best. Our group finds that 1/2 the time the image ends up broken when GIO turns it around to members. I can’t say the reason because sometimes it’s only one or two if multiple images are embedded by pasting. ?Possibly the image format (eg, jpg v. png?). ? ?

Ken,

A note that pasting an image into both/either an emailed or web post
(‘er message) is haphazard at best.

When posting via web I believe there are two possible results: an image file carried in the message (a "local" or attached image file) or an image file hosted some web site (a "remote" image). The former occurs when the image was copied from your computer or device, the latter occurs when the image was copied from web site. Many Email interfaces block "remote" images by default because they can be used (by the site) to detect that the message was displayed.

When posting via email there are lots of variations in the way an email interface may choose to represent an embedded image. The actual image data may be inline, attached, or remote.

That said, I'm not sure if these variations account for your experience of haphazard results.

Possibly the image format (eg, jpg v. png?).

I don't think that would be it, at least not those two examples (I've used PNG a lot and others use JPG a lot). But there are a lot if image file formats out there, and it is entirely possible that one's email interface or web browser might not support some of the less often used types.

If your group is set to resize images sent by email then it is also possible for Groups.io's resizing software to misinterpret the image file content. If you don't resize I think Groups.io simply passes it through (to individual emails and to your browser when viewing via the Messages section).

If you can nail down a repeatable example that might be worth reporting to support.

Shal


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>>>n Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 04:26 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

When posting via web I believe there are two possible results: an image file carried in the message (a "local" or attached image file) or an image file hosted some web site (a "remote" image). The former occurs when the image was copied from your computer or device, the latter occurs when the image was copied from web site. Many Email interfaces block "remote" images by default because they can be used (by the site) to detect that the message was displayed.

When posting via email there are lots of variations in the way an email interface may choose to represent an embedded image. The actual image data may be inline, attached, or remote.<<<

Thx Shal

The image might be copied/pasted either from a local file (say the image displayed in a graphics application) or copied/pasted from an online image (say, displayed in a browser.)

But once the image is copied n pasted, does it matter the original source?? Note that I am not talking about using the insert image dialog (a local file).? ?Some (many?) forum platforms (like SMF - simple machines) have an insert image function using the image URL, which, I think, is sorely lacking in GIO.

I the examples I note, the image DOES exist in the web GIO, but come thru as a broken image in the emailed posts.? That tells me it's a GIO issue when turning around the message. Unfortunately, I? haven't kept?track enough to come up with a repeatable bug.

I also copied/pasted onto a wiki page (from an emailed image and from an older CIO post, and ultimately images disappeared.? Note the several broken images here for example:


I just try -- and tell others on the group --? to avoid copy/pasting altogether (unfortunately.)

-thx, k


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 04:26 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Ken,

> A note that pasting an image into both/either an emailed or web post
> (‘er message) is haphazard at best.

When posting via web I believe there are two possible results: an image
file carried in the message (a "local" or attached image file) or an
image file hosted some web site (a "remote" image). The former occurs
when the image was copied from your computer or device, the latter
occurs when the image was copied from web site. Many Email interfaces
block "remote" images by default because they can be used (by the site)
to detect that the message was displayed.

When posting via email there are lots of variations in the way an email
interface may choose to represent an embedded image. The actual image
data may be inline, attached, or remote.

That said, I'm not sure if these variations account for your experience
of haphazard results.

> Possibly the image format (eg, jpg v. png?).

I don't think that would be it, at least not those two examples (I've
used PNG a lot and others use JPG a lot). But there are a lot if image
file formats out there, and it is entirely possible that one's email
interface or web browser might not support some of the less often used
types.

If your group is set to resize images sent by email then it is also
possible for Groups.io's resizing software to misinterpret the image
file content. If you don't resize I think Groups.io simply passes it
through (to individual emails and to your browser when viewing via the
Messages section).

If you can nail down a repeatable example that might be worth reporting
to support.

Shal


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Ken,

But once the image is copied n pasted, does it matter the original
source?

It has been a while since I tested it, but if you used drag-n-drop (which many people think is the same as copy/paste) then in the case of an image in a web browser it was the URL that was copied, not the image data itself. If you used a "Copy Image" function in the browser then I believe you would get the content, same as a copy from your device.

I also copied/pasted onto a wiki page (from an emailed image and from
an older CIO post, and ultimately images disappeared.

I had that problem when pasting into a wiki page from the Screenshot function in older versions of Firefox - back when one of the options was to upload and edit the image. It turns out that copying after editing put the image's (URL) on the clipboard, to be pasted into the wiki page. That looked fine in the editor, and even immediately after saving the image, but would disappear later when Mozilla discarded the edited image. I spotted one of those in GMF's wiki a while ago and I've been meaning to replace it.

Firefox's current Screenshot function puts the image data on the clipboard when you copy it, as does Win10's Snipping tool or Snip & Sketch, so those work fine.

Shal


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>>>On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 10:13 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

but if you used drag-n-drop<<<

I always use copy/paste if from a web image, and those were the ones that blew up w/ the broken image icon.
(I might use DnD if using the insert local image tool.)