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I had about 10 drafts, all waiting until next week to post
they took hours to create

Because some dumb feature of groups.io that unsubscribes me
I lost them all!

And how I was loving this draft feature of groups.io!

I AM SO MAD and SO Disappointed!!!!!


 

psb b,

Because some dumb feature of groups.io that unsubscribes me
I lost them all!
If you were removed for marking messages as spam, received the "resume" notice, and followed the link to resume your subscription, then I would report this to [email protected]

It is likely too late for those you had, but arguably resuming your subscription should retain your drafts.

Shal


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Did you or your email provider move a message from GIO to your spam folder? If so, it worked as expected and required. Whether you did it or your email provider did it, marking a message as spam or dragging it to your spam folder will automatically trigger an unsubscribe from the group.?

If that didn't happen you will need to investigate what triggered this.?

You can get around this sort of thing of losing your drafts by receiving and sending group posts by email and composing your draft messages in an email program instead of the GIO web interface. You then have complete control of your messages and drafts.?

Donald?


On September 5, 2019 10:25:28 PM "psb b via Groups.Io" <greecianhoney@...> wrote:

I had about 10 drafts, all waiting until next week to post
they took hours to create

Because some dumb feature of groups.io that unsubscribes me
I lost them all!


 

I agree about the draft messages in email program but mine won't accept clipart as easily as groups.io does, and groups.io has the very handy features of editing!

Still haven't figured out the trigger for slipping them into my spam folder.
No one at Yahoo answers queries.

Thank you, though!

~~Pamela~~
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"Awake, CHAOS: ?we have napped." ?--E. E. Cummings

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 7:16:45 AM EDT, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:


Did you or your email provider move a message from GIO to your spam folder? If so, it worked as expected and required. Whether you did it or your email provider did it, marking a message as spam or dragging it to your spam folder will automatically trigger an unsubscribe from the group.?

If that didn't happen you will need to investigate what triggered this.?

You can get around this sort of thing of losing your drafts by receiving and sending group posts by email and composing your draft messages in an email program instead of the GIO web interface. You then have complete control of your messages and drafts.?

Donald?


On September 5, 2019 10:25:28 PM "psb b via Groups.Io" <greecianhoney@...> wrote:

I had about 10 drafts, all waiting until next week to post
they took hours to create

Because some dumb feature of groups.io that unsubscribes me
I lost them all!


 

If you are using Yahoo as your primary email, I urge you to get another one but make sure it's not Verizon or any of the ATT company's services because they are all hosted at Yahoo.
The majority of my membership that has the same issue is on one of the above mentioned services.

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Best to trust your own backing up, instead of only something else's.
Composing online is vulnerable to losses caused by unexpected crashes, premature posting, and/or other mishaps.

It is always safest to compose emails offline, saving frequently.
I suggest using plain text, such as Mac's TextEdit.
I think NotePad is the PC equivalent (PC users, please verify or correct this).

Avoid word processing applications - especially MS Word as it uses special character coding that can result in unwanted formatting, and/or gibberish instead of apostrophes, slashes, etc.

When your message is ready to post, copy and paste it into an email, address it, then send.

On September 5, 2019 10:25:28 PM "psb b via Groups.Io" <greecianhoney@...> wrote:

I had about 10 drafts, all waiting until next week to post
they took hours to create

Because some dumb feature of groups.io that unsubscribes me
I lost them all!


 

I'm kind of naive in this area. ?Wouldn't know what email TO get!
Wouldn't know what's Verizon or ATT or Yahoo hosted.

And so laborious to change since I've had this one for well over 30 years.
It's full of folders and stars and saved photos and such.

Any recommendations?
I hear Google is sneaky.

Thank you for advice.

~~Pamela~~
http://thequeensbs.blogspot.com?

"Awake, CHAOS: ?we have napped." ?--E. E. Cummings



On Friday, September 6, 2019, 1:51:01 PM EDT, Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:


If you are using Yahoo as your primary email, I urge you to get another one but make sure it's not Verizon or any of the ATT company's services because they are all hosted at Yahoo.
The majority of my membership that has the same issue is on one of the above mentioned services.

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I suggest downloading notepad++ which is a free replacement for notepad. It has tabs available so you could use a separate tab for each message you need to compose. It has other features too but I don't think it formats your note text, at least not by default.

Donald
AD8DY

On September 6, 2019 2:11:30 PM "Michael Pavan" <michaelpavan@...> wrote:


It is always safest to compose emails offline, saving frequently.
I suggest using plain text, such as Mac's TextEdit.
I think NotePad is the PC equivalent (PC users, please verify or correct this).


 

Google is sneaky but no more so than Yahoo.?

There is which can be set up so you can retrieve it in an email program. Their web interface isn't bad but I prefer more control over my email and use Postbox to get my web mail. Thunderbird is a similar program but is free.

Microsoft has also. I can't say they're not sneaky though. Gmx seems to be the best of those however.

Donald?

On September 6, 2019 2:14:41 PM "psb b via Groups.Io" <greecianhoney@...> wrote:

I'm kind of naive in this area. ?Wouldn't know what email TO get!
Wouldn't know what's Verizon or ATT or Yahoo hosted.

... snip...?

Any recommendations?
I hear Google is sneaky.

Thank you for advice.,_._,_


 

Pamela,

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I'm kind of naive in this area.? Wouldn't know what email TO get!
Yeah, it is a little like asking what brand of car to buy - everyone has their favorite.


Wouldn't know what's Verizon or ATT or Yahoo hosted.
Unfortunately Google (Gmail) and Microsoft (Hotmail, Outlook) are two of the last major services standing after Verizon's purchases of Yahoo and AOL.
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I use Gmail and like it well, but I do think the reduced diversity of available services is regrettable.


And so laborious to change since I've had this one for well over 30 years.
It's full of folders and stars and saved photos and such.
It may not be worth it for you to change.

But it might be worth it to have a second email address at another service to use for Groups.io and any other services you don't want to give your primary email address.

If you decide to stay with Ymail for Groups.io I suggest checking your spam folder periodically, say once a week at least. Put a checkmark on any Groups.io emails in there, as well as anything else you'd rather have had in your inbox, and click the Restore to Inbox button. That should prevent future unsubscriptions, and help train Ymail not to treat group messages as spam.
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Shal
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Whether you did it or your email provider did it, marking a message as spam or dragging it to your spam folder will automatically trigger an unsubscribe from the group.
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not sure that is correct.?
I recently had msgs in my spam (aol musta flagged em) and got no unsubscribe.?


 

It was such a stupid inconvenient thing.
For months I had the Yahoo spam folder as the page that opened first and I could quickly see what shouldn't be there.

But sometime over vacation, that changed, and I got caught unawares!

In times past I have checked and done the "restore to inbox", you'd think it would be "trained" by now not to put 'em in spam folder.

Thanks for reply.

~~Pamela~~
http://thequeensbs.blogspot.com?

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On Friday, September 6, 2019, 3:13:47 PM EDT, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:


Pamela,

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I'm kind of naive in this area.? Wouldn't know what email TO get!
Yeah, it is a little like asking what brand of car to buy - everyone has their favorite.


Wouldn't know what's Verizon or ATT or Yahoo hosted.
Unfortunately Google (Gmail) and Microsoft (Hotmail, Outlook) are two of the last major services standing after Verizon's purchases of Yahoo and AOL.
?
I use Gmail and like it well, but I do think the reduced diversity of available services is regrettable.


And so laborious to change since I've had this one for well over 30 years.
It's full of folders and stars and saved photos and such.
It may not be worth it for you to change.

But it might be worth it to have a second email address at another service to use for Groups.io and any other services you don't want to give your primary email address.

If you decide to stay with Ymail for Groups.io I suggest checking your spam folder periodically, say once a week at least. Put a checkmark on any Groups.io emails in there, as well as anything else you'd rather have had in your inbox, and click the Restore to Inbox button. That should prevent future unsubscriptions, and help train Ymail not to treat group messages as spam.
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Shal
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Thank you Donald for all your responses.
I'm checking into notepad++ ?and the gmx.com
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Don't care for outlook. ?My DH (darling hubby) has that one.
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~~Pamela~~
http://thequeensbs.blogspot.com?
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"Awake, CHAOS: ?we have napped." ?--E. E. Cummings
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On Friday, September 6, 2019, 3:13:01 PM EDT, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:
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Google is sneaky but no more so than Yahoo.?
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There is which can be set up so you can retrieve it in an email program. Their web interface isn't bad but I prefer more control over my email and use Postbox to get my web mail. Thunderbird is a similar program but is free.
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Microsoft has also. I can't say they're not sneaky though. Gmx seems to be the best of those however.
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Donald?
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Any chance I can be owner and sole member of a group on groups.io?
I could build my posts, hit send, they'd come to me, (same as being "saved") and then I could forward them.

Would that be feasible?
Would groups.io permit such?

~~Pamela~~
http://thequeensbs.blogspot.com?

"Awake, CHAOS: ?we have napped." ?--E. E. Cummings







On Friday, September 6, 2019, 3:13:47 PM EDT, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:


Pamela,

?
I'm kind of naive in this area.? Wouldn't know what email TO get!
Yeah, it is a little like asking what brand of car to buy - everyone has their favorite.


Wouldn't know what's Verizon or ATT or Yahoo hosted.
Unfortunately Google (Gmail) and Microsoft (Hotmail, Outlook) are two of the last major services standing after Verizon's purchases of Yahoo and AOL.
?
I use Gmail and like it well, but I do think the reduced diversity of available services is regrettable.


And so laborious to change since I've had this one for well over 30 years.
It's full of folders and stars and saved photos and such.
It may not be worth it for you to change.

But it might be worth it to have a second email address at another service to use for Groups.io and any other services you don't want to give your primary email address.

If you decide to stay with Ymail for Groups.io I suggest checking your spam folder periodically, say once a week at least. Put a checkmark on any Groups.io emails in there, as well as anything else you'd rather have had in your inbox, and click the Restore to Inbox button. That should prevent future unsubscriptions, and help train Ymail not to treat group messages as spam.
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Shal
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Pamela,


Any chance I can be owner and sole member of a group on ?
I could build my posts, hit send, they'd come to me, (same as being "saved") and then I could forward them.

You could, but I don't think that helps.

If you held them in that group they'd still be drafts until you hit send. If you hold them in your email then why not create them as drafts there in the first place?

Shal


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Shal, I understand what you're saying.
I guess the hangup is my love of clipart?
which Yahoo doesn't always accept, or
sometimes the clipart won't transfer in a drafted post to appear in a groups.io message.

It's something funky I don't dig.

I just wish the drafted messages would still be there when I re-subscribe, so much easier than all this investigation and rigamarole.

Everyone has been very helpful. ?Love all the replies and suggestions.


~~Pamela~~
http://thequeensbs.blogspot.com?

"Awake, CHAOS: ?we have napped." ?--E. E. Cummings



On Friday, September 6, 2019, 4:25:50 PM EDT, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:


Pamela,


Any chance I can be owner and sole member of a group on ?
I could build my posts, hit send, they'd come to me, (same as being "saved") and then I could forward them.

You could, but I don't think that helps.

If you held them in that group they'd still be drafts until you hit send. If you hold them in your email then why not create them as drafts there in the first place?

Shal


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Ken, I'm pretty sure the unsubscribe only happens if you mark an email as spam - not if your ISP thinks it's spam and sends it to your spam folder. I occasionally get gio emails in my spam folder but I'm still subscribed.

Pete


 

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 05:39 PM, Peter Cook wrote:
I'm pretty sure the unsubscribe only happens if you mark an email as spam - not if your ISP thinks it's spam and sends it to your spam folder.
Regardless of how it got there, emptying the spam folder with it in there will cause it to be treated as spam in the future.? That's why it's recommended to check that folder now and then to remove anything that's not spam.? See the Wiki page for more details.

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Checking spam
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As well, be sure to add e-dresses (and permutations) in your contact list so it is recognized as an ¡°approved¡± one. Not just in your device but in the providers list. For instance my phone contacts is separate from the contacts list that AOL keeps. Some let you auto add all addresses that YOU send TO.


 

I have 2 email addresses I use for groups.io. The one designated as owner of several groups is set to "No Email" for all of them. The other address is subscribed to the same groups and uses various email settings. You can't be unsubscribed if you don't get email.