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Hi all,
I sent a message to support a few days ago.
Wondering if anyone has migrated a list from mailman and if so the best way to do it.
I can get members addresses into a text file if that makes things easier.
TIA.

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adam,

Wondering if anyone has migrated a list from mailman and if so the
best way to do it.

From what I've read it can or has been done, and contacting support is the best way. Though you may end up in a queue with all of the Y!Group transfers.

I can get members addresses into a text file if that makes things
easier.

That would be essential as I understand it. As would getting the message archive into an mbox format file, if you want to import the history of your group.

If you're not looking to import the list's message archive you can DIY the transfer by using Direct Add, pasting in the list of addresses. Upgrade to the "group transfer plan", which is one month of premium (non-renewing) for $10. Or you can use the Invite feature for free.

Shal


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Shal Farley wrote:

adam,

Wondering if anyone has migrated a list from mailman and if so the
best way to do it.

From what I've read it can or has been done, and contacting support is the best way. Though you may end up in a queue with all of the Y!Group transfers.

I can get members addresses into a text file if that makes things
easier.

That would be essential as I understand it. As would getting the message archive into an mbox format file, if you want to import the history of your group.

If you're not looking to import the list's message archive you can DIY the transfer by using Direct Add, pasting in the list of addresses. Upgrade to the "group transfer plan", which is one month of premium (non-renewing) for $10. Or you can use the Invite feature for free.

Shal

Looks like importing a mbox file for archives is strictly a "support" process :(

/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/import_group_from_mailman/18690003?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,200,18690003

This would be a really nice feature to have via user upload of an mbox file.
I have a bunch of mailing lists I was considering transferring...
if I have to wait months (years?) to get my archives loaded, that is my first gripe with groups.io.

-Emre

Adam & Shal,

Having recently moved 3 mailman groups to Groups IO via the direct add route, let me just offer the following as a helpful hint.
When one exports an address list in mailman if someone has a name associate with it gets appended to the end of the address enclosed in parenthesis. For instance my address with name looked like this:
Alan1057@... (Alan Robbins)
Now, Groups IO has a much more stringent protocol in how it accepts email addresses in the direct add feature. Please read the syntax prior to submitting. Mass subscribe option in mailman would accept the above example of my address, Groups IO will not.
So, if you are only going to subscribe email addresses extracted from mailman, you will need to manually edit that file so only the email address is on the line or if you want to include the name it needs to be as Mark has indicated on that direct add page.
The first list I submitted from mailman contained about 360 names and only 181 get added. The 181 was the addresses that folks had not associated a name in mailman with their address. Maybe there is some type email address stripper program that will only extract from your mailman the email addresses. If your group is small, manually editing is no big deal, but if it is large, it can be quite a task. Anyway just thought I'd pass on my experience

Best,
Al

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 08:25 AM, Emre Brookes wrote:

This would be a really nice feature to have via user upload of an mbox file.
I have a bunch of mailing lists I was considering transferring...
if I have to wait months (years?) to get my archives loaded, that is my first gripe with groups.io.

To put this in perspective, at this time there is no user function to restore a group's message archive from its *own* backup, let alone a third-party one.

There have been quite a few requests for an Mailbox transfer here in GMF. We've always diverted them towards support for help, and there never seems to be any follow-up. Has anyone actually done it, or is this mbox import thing just an urban legend?

Bruce
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adam,

Looks like importing a mbox file for archives is strictly a "support"
process :(

True, but strictly speaking so is a Yahoo Group transfer. Most of it is automated but there is still a manual step or two for the transfer agent (support) in there.

Shal


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Al,

Alan1057@... (Alan Robbins)

That's an obsolete format for including a comment with an address (rfc5322 section 3.4).

Now, Groups IO has a much more stringent protocol in how it accepts
email addresses in the direct add feature. Please read the syntax
prior to submitting.

"Alan Robbins" <Alan1057@...>

That's the current standard for including a display-name with an address (same RFC & section). The double-quotes are optional if the display-name does not contain certain punctuation marks ( ) < > [ ] : ; @ \ , . or "
The angle brackets are optional if there is no display-name.

So, if you are only going to subscribe email addresses extracted from
mailman, you will need to manually edit that file so only the email
address is on the line or if you want to include the name it needs to
be as Mark has indicated on that direct add page.

I would probably use Excel or the search-and-replace capability of my preferred programmer's text editor (Epsilon) to reformat the file, rather than a completely manual process.

Shal


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That stripping/reformatting can be done without too much difficulty in a
spreadsheet program for many thousands of addresses. You do need to know how to
use certain text manipulating formulae though.

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Sounds interesting, ideas where I could learn info on this technique? Sounds
useful for many applications

Al

Adam, myself and a couple of others, I Have done transfers from mailman. We simply did the correct dad, which allows you to put in 20 addresses at a time. Then triggers the next how many ever other members that don't get added will have to be approved by Mark then they will also simply be direct debit. So you can either choose to upload text file with Direct dance, or simply use the invite functionality. We did not transfer our archives. Everything else has worked wonderfully.

Joseph,

Adam, myself and a couple of others, I Have done transfers from
mailman. We simply did the correct dad, which allows you to put in 20
addresses at a time.

Actually, there is no explicit limit to how many addresses you can submit at one time to Direct Add. However if you submit more than 20 in a 24-hour period your action may be held pending review by Groups.io.

Emphasis on the word "may", I was only held the first time I submitted a couple hundred addresses, and the hold was less than 24 hours. But Groups.io was smaller then, and support less busy, so your mileage may vary.

Shal


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I learnt by trial and error (in the completely different context of creating
repetitive HTML code), making considerable use of the Excel Help file. If you
want some tuition, I'm willing to help a little, but I suggest we take it off
this group and do it privately before Shal jumps on us for being off-topic. In
case you can't see my email address in the headers, it is ejf@...

Jim

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