Introduction guide for subscribers
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Well the wiki has a quick start section plus advice to group members. You don't have to be a member of this group or even Groups.io to read it.
Perhaps the Group Management section should be more split off from these. Even graphically. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home The Wiki is jointly maintained by volunteers (including me from time to time). Perhaps you could take a look and see what sections you think it needs.? Frances -- /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki /static/help More help: use the search button at the top of the Messages list. |
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 09:51 AM, mohnkern wrote:
I've been trying to find an online guide for groups.io for subscribers...There is no formal "Intro to Groups.io" document, but rumor has it that one is in the works (ref:?).?Meanwhile,?I agree with Frances that?the GMF wiki?is likely to be your best resource at this time. It contains a lot of useful information not found in?the system Help.? Regards, Bruce |
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Pardon me for being a dummy, but just what is wiki?? I have been working on computers for many years, but it seems there is always something new that I am not familiar with. Barbara Jean On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:12 AM Frances <frances@...> wrote: Well the wiki has a quick start section plus advice to group members. You don't have to be a member of this group or even Groups.io to read it. |
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:48 AM, Barbara Jean Jasen wrote:
Pardon me for being a dummy, but just what is wiki?? ·É¾±¡¤°ì¾±
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a website that allows collaborative editing of its content and structure by its users.
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Barbara Jean,
As Bruce cited, it is a collaborative web site. The name wiki has a somewhat . Specific to Groups.io, it is an optional web feature of a group (like files and photos) where group members can contribute content. In this case, content in the form of a collection of mutually editable web pages. When visiting GMF's web pages you'll find the link to our Wiki at the bottom of the navigation list in the left column. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Could we create a new home page pointing to one page for members and one page for owners and moderators? Just divide the two parts. Or does Groups.io allow 2 wikis for one group? The 2-pager that mohnkern mentions could be part of the members¡¯ section. Frances -- /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki ( /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki ) /static/help More help: use the search button at the top of the Messages list. |
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Chris,
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... but I might argue that it is aimed at Owner & Moderators rather than Subscribers, who might find the whole thing a bit daunting. The GMF wiki has a lot of content around what Owners and Moderators can do, much of which is not available to "ordinary" members. ?
The first two sections, Quick-Start Guide and Advice to Group Members, are supposed to be aimed squarely at the non-moderator members of our groups.
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That said, I'm open to suggestions akin to Frances' idea for more clearly delineating the target audience of the sections. Would horizontal rules across the page be enough of a visual clue? Maybe we should try that or something similar.
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I'm even open to the possibility that those two sections should be broken out into a separate wiki "home" page for members. Well, not literally a second wiki "home" page, since that's not an available feature. So I'm unsure what the best path forward would be.
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My main concern is that moving those sections to their own page might effectively hide them, no matter how prominently we make the link "Here's info for group members" on the home page. Maybe that's not too big a concern, as group moderators who want to provide that info to their members would pass along a link to that separate page rather than the GMF wiki home page.
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The other obvious option would be to keep the member info on GMF's home page, and move the Best Practices for Group Management section off to a secondary page. I'm not fond of that idea because I suspect that most GMF members actually need the Best Practices pages more often.
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A third approach is the same as the first, but leaving the GMF home page as is. The downside is that the duplication of effort involved in adding links to any new member-specific pages to both "home" pages.
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Monkern, Can I get your pdf? lloydlehrer@... lloyd lehrer, (310)[redacted]
[mod note: feel free to upload it to GMF's files, and/or copy/paste its content into a new page in our Wiki] On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 8:31 AM mohnkern <mohnkern@...> wrote:
It's definitely a good start, but still a bit intimidating for some users.? I wrote a 2 page "here's what Groups.io, and here's the basic functionality and how it works."? I'll see what reaction is within my organization, and if so, put it up here. |
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Ken, Why not the home page being a (hate to use this term) TOC, pointing toward ¡°mods/owners¡± or ¡°advanced¡± and ¡°dummies¡±?? That's how our wiki is evolving.? That's how I think of the wiki home page now: a hand-built TOC for the group's pages. The Quick Start section is about as far as I think we should go in terms of segregating "basic" from "advanced" information. I did add some horizontal rules to that page to help distinguish member oriented content from mod/owner oriented content. All this talk of the wiki home page made me think of the GMF's home page. So I added a paragraph there to help guide newbies to the wiki and messages sections. Hopefully these tweaks will prove helpful. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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