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Each group and subgroup is pretty much independent as far as moderation and other settings.? The only restriction is that everyone must be a member of the main group before they can join a subgroup.
Other than explaining which group/subgroup is intended for certain posts, there's no explicit way to keep folks from posting in the wrong one.? There are a lot of settings that each member can choose as far as which posts they get.? Take a look at /static/help#subscription-options and the sections just below it about muting and following. If it were me, I'd probably set up the General Discussion as the main group, then all the others as subgroups.? Then I'd set the Default Sub Settings for all of them to "Individual Messages" and "Following Only" with "First Message Also" selected.? With those settings, each person would get the first message of any thread, but after that they'd only get any they choose to follow.? You may find that other settings are better suited to your group, so look through all the options to see what might work best. There are many options available on GIO, so it can take awhile to determine which are the best for any given group/subgroup. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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I'd give some thought to hashtags also.? May not be good fit but...
AFAIK, messages cannot be moved from one subgroup to another (/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/5475284#3304) - might be an issue if people post in the wrong subgroup all the time.? [whereas you can edit the topic and change the hashtag pretty easily] For people that?only want to get announcements and newsletters, send them as Special Notice and have members set the Special Notices Only option. Just a thought. Toby |
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Hi Spencer,
You could make the Main group an Announcement Only group, by changing the settings so that only moderators can post and these posts are not moderated. The subgroups can be set as you like (Announcement Only for Newsletters, perhaps) or the more normal settings for a discussion sub-group. The members will soon find they cannot post to the Main (Default) group. The Main group can be used for any communication that needs to go to everyone. You would have to switch off the No Email delivery option at the Main group level for this to work, so all members would receive these general communications (from the moderators) via email. Another way to achieve this is to make the Main group your Discussion group and do not have a General Discussion sub-group. Then you can setup each of the sub-groups as Announcement Only (e.g. Newsletters) or as a Discussion type group. This is how you normally use Groups.io, as you want every member to be in the General Discussion sub-group. This would be my preferred setup, otherwise you are going against the design of Groups.io, where everyone must join the Main group? before joining a sub-group, and the sub groups are for special interests, with subsets of the membership. If you do have some special requirement that means not everyone wants to be in the General Discussion group, then make it a sub-group and follow the recommendation in my first paragraph. Regards John Russell |
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Spencer,
One problem we had with our yahoo groups is that all discussionAs Duane and Toby mentioned, Groups.io has better tools for members to ignore uninteresting threads, or follow only certain threads. That's described in the Help page sections that Duane cited. This can often replace or reduce the need for the rigid partitioning available using the subgroups feature. I want to setup the new groups.io group so that everyone isThere's no feature to have a member automatically subscribed to any subgroups. What I would suggest is that you make the primary group contain both announcements and newsletters, since you want everyone to automatically start with those, and then use #newsletter and #announcement as hashtags to mark those kinds of messages. That will allow members to mute either if they no longer wish to receive that type. but they are free to ignore all other groups such as GENERALYou could make the primary group also the place for general discussion - that would be all topics not hashtagged as either #newsletter or #announcement - but that would only be advantageous if you think most (or nearly all) members would want to receive general discussion topics. As John said that's seems more typical of how Groups.io groups are run. For the other categories of messages you can choose between rigidly separating them into a subgroup (Buy-Trade seems like it may be a good candidate for that) or marked by a hashtag. There are plus and minuses to either choice, and neither choice wholly eliminates the problem of members posting to the wrong subgroup or using the wrong hashtag (or failing to use the right one). How can I keep everyone from posting to MAIN as a default? We willIf only a small minority of subscribers have such a narrow desire you can put the onus on them to set up their subscription that way: they should use the advanced preferences to select Following Only and then follow only #newsletter and #announcement. If you think that there will be more than a few who feel that way you could go ahead and make General Discussion a subgroup. Then in the primary group's Settings, Spam Control section, you can put a check in the "Announcement Group" box so that only moderators may post into the primary group, and it is used only for announcements and newsletters. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Spencer,
I setup the main group for announcements only, but it seems that noThese are messages that do appear in the primary group's Messages page, correct? If so, they should have been forwarded to the members, subject to each member's subscription setting. It is technically possible for you to have Direct Add'd them with their email delivery specified as "no email", and it is technically possible that they all changed their subscription to "no email". But neither seems likely. If not, are they awaiting approval in the Pending Messages list? The moderation controls for the group work independently of the Announcements Only setting. Did you receive one of those messages in your email? Do you have a second email set up as an ordinary member, or know a member you can contact off-list to verify whether or not an announcement was received? Another thing to look at is the Reply To setting in the primary group. Since it is Announcements only you probably want replies to go to the group's +owner address rather than to the group (where they would be rejected if from a member). obvious in the settings. There is a subgroup called GeneralDiscussionYour primary evidence that the members were added would be the Members lists, of both the primary and the subgroup. Those lists have a column for the member's Email Delivery setting, which normally would be mostly Single, but some members may have selected Digest or something else. Unless you selected something other than Individual in the Default Sub Settings tab of the primary group's Settings page before the members were Direct Added. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 03:34 AM, <spencer.soohoo@...> wrote:
All of the members were added via DirectAdd, and I don't see anything obvious in the settings.Spencer, Just guessing here, but... ...check your Default Sub Settings (go to Admin>Settings and click the button at the top of the page). By any chance is this default set to Special Notices? If so, everyone subsequently added to the group (by Direct Add or whatever means) will not receive any emails you post unless you tic the Special Notice checkbox. To remedy it you will have to go into Admin>Members and change them all to something else. The description of this setting says "You will only receive special notices from the moderators."?On the surface, this might seem to be a desirable thing for an Announcement group, but it is not.? ? Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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