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If I post a message through my email provider I have a copy of it in my Sent folder, however if I use the New Topic feature it seems I do not.

Or if it is there, how can I find it?
Or only if my post is approved will it then appear as a New Topic?

Your email program/provider created a copy in your Sent folder.? Groups.IO does not have access to your mail folders on your PC or web mail so there's no way it can put a copy there.
(and that's not something that can ever be done so please don't ask.)
If the group is moderated, the post will not be visible on the web until after approved.
Toby

Your email program/provider created a copy in your Sent folder.

Yes, I stated and understand that.

Groups.IO does not have access to your mail folders on your PC or web mail so there's no way it can put a copy there.

Obviously

(and that's not something that can ever be done so please don't ask.)

Agreed. I wasn’t asking that.

If the group is moderated, the post will not be visible on the web until after approved.

Yes, I stated and understand that.


What I meant, and apparently may not have been clear enough about is:
When I use the New Topic feature (because I did not send it through my email provider and of course do not have a copy of it in my Sent folder) it seems I do not (have a copy of it in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to, until and) only if my post is approved will it then appear as a New Topic.

So what I was asking is:
if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can I find it?

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:32 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:

So what I was asking is:
if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can I find it?

See /static/help#dupemail? If you check the box, you will receive a copy when you post online (as you wish), but will get a duplicate copy (i.e.: along with the one your client saved) whenever you send by email.?If you uncheck the box, you will not get any emails you sent yourself, no matter where you send it from. You can't have it both ways.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Michael,

if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere
in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can
I find it?

No there is not. Nor is there for replies you post via the group's Messages section. They only surface if approved to post in the group.

It would be nice if there were an equivalent of the Sent folder, say on your Subscription page. Failing that, or maybe in addition to it, it would also be nice if there were a BCC me checkbox in both places (New Topic and Reply). It is possible that one or both ideas have been discussed in beta:


Shal


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On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:32 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:
So what I was asking is:
if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can I find it?
See /static/help#dupemail If you check the box, you will receive a copy when you post online (as you wish), but will get a duplicate copy (i.e.: along with the one your client saved) whenever you send by email. If you uncheck the box, you will not get any emails you sent yourself, no matter where you send it from. You can't have it both ways.

Hope this helps,

No, it doesn’t. My question has nothing to do with sending a message through my email provider.

Let me try the question again:

1) I click on “New Topic” on the GMF Groups.io group website (to which I am subscribed and have a Password)

2) I write and send a message.

3) It appears I have no copy of that message, unless and until it is approved and sent out to members of GMF

4) Only then do I have a copy of it (by receiving it through email) - if it is not approved, it seems I have no copy of it.

5) Before it is approved (if ever), is there a copy of my message submitted by clicking on “New Topic” on the GMF Groups.io group website, that I can find and refer to?

6) If so, where and how can I find it?

On Jun 25, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Michael,

if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere
in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can
I find it?

No there is not. Nor is there for replies you post via the group's Messages section. They only surface if approved to post in the group.

It would be nice if there were an equivalent of the Sent folder, say on your Subscription page. Failing that, or maybe in addition to it, it would also be nice if there were a BCC me checkbox in both places (New Topic and Reply). It is possible that one or both ideas have been discussed in beta:

Thanks for hearing my question and clarifying.

(My response to the other non-answer to my question passed each other by while posting) :)

Michael,

As a former long time user of Yahoo Groups, I learned that making a post (new topic or reply) did not guarantee that I or anyone else would ever see a copy of it.

From that scenario, I got into the habit of making a backup copy for myself whenever I created a post. Saved me from recreating the post over from scratch many times.

I have not seen the need to make backups here as reliability has not been an issue.

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Received from Michael Pavan at 6/25/2018 08:14 PM UTC:

On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:32 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:
So what I was asking is:
if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere in

my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can I find it?

See /static/help#dupemail If you check the box, you

will receive a copy when you post online (as you wish), but will get a duplicate copy (i.e.: along with the one your client saved) whenever you send by email. If you uncheck the box, you will not get any emails you sent yourself, no matter where you send it from. You can't have it both ways.

Hope this helps,

No, it doesn't. My question has nothing to do with sending a message through my email provider.

Let me try the question again:

1) I click on "New Topic" on the GMF Groups.io group website (to which I am subscribed and have a Password)

2) I write and send a message.

3) It appears I have no copy of that message, unless and until it is approved and sent out to members of GMF

4) Only then do I have a copy of it (by receiving it through email) - if it is not approved, it seems I have no copy of it.

5) Before it is approved (if ever), is there a copy of my message submitted by clicking on "New Topic" on the GMF Groups.io group website, that I can find and refer to?

6) If so, where and how can I find it?

When posting via the web interface as you describe above, you cannot view the message you posted once submitting it until it is made visible to the entire group.

Perhaps a solution is to POST using an email client on your own computer and then read via whichever method you prefer.

Or perhaps copy the posting before submitting it and save/print it using something like WordPad until it appears on-line. (Yeah, I wouldn't go to that length either.)

Jim H

Thanks for the work-around suggestions.

I do understand the work-around of the extra step(s) of making a copy of my post, saving a d filing it, hoping I could find it again should I wish to make the same or similar point later.

It just seems like such an obviously desirable function that appeared to be missing from “New Topic” that Groups.io might very well have (as an improvement to YahooGroups, etc), but I didn’t know how find. So I was asking before I might suggest it, only to find out it already existed...