Welcome message links not working
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In the welcome message, which I customized, the links in "You can visit your group, start reading messages and posting them here: /g/OperaRW" and "You can set your subscription settings here: /g/OperaRW/editsub" don't work.
We get the message "This group does not exist." Any suggestions??
Owner, Opera RW
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Thanks, Emily, those nice bars have gone missing, too.
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On Feb 17, 2025, at 23:49, Emily Rosenberg via groups.io <emily@...> wrote:
Try clicking the three bars at the bottom right of the screen vMaybe that will get you back to Admin
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Jane, is your husband a member of any of the groups where you have lost owner status? If so, he can look at the member list and see if he gets an 'owner' flag against your name.
Also, on your husband's computer, log in yourself. If it is showing the correct details for him, it ought to show the correct details for you when using? is computer.
Re IP address and VPN, it's not impossible that your ISP has done something sneaky and put you on a VPN - remember that Dan's problem was a VPN put in place by his provider without his knowledge.
best thoughts I can manage, Malcolm.
On 17 February 2025 20:52:11 (+00:00), Jane Gilman via groups.io wrote: Thanks, Thomas. ?It doesn¡¯t apply here as my husband has the same IP and he still has Moderator privileges. ?I don¡¯t have any capability. ?It¡¯s something to do with my account.?
On Feb 17, 2025, at 05:59, Thomas Gruber via groups.io <computerhusky@...> wrote:
Hi Jane,
please check messages #48845 and #48849 by Dan Lepinski in this topic, where he describes what caused the problem in his case. It was basically caused by some change made by his internet provider, without telling their customers. Nothing he caused by wrong login.
Maybe your problem is similar.?
Thomas
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Malcolm Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
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Try clicking the three bars at the bottom right of the screen vMaybe that will get you back to Admin
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On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 04:06 PM, Jane Gilman wrote:
It¡¯s something to do with my account.?
Jane -- From what you've said previously, you don't have a single account. You have three, one for each email address.?
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To troubleshoot this, you will have to log in three times -- once for each.
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From the system help:
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To log in to your Groups.io account without setting a password:
- Go to the?Groups.io website?(or a specific group¡¯s website) and click the?Log In?link at the top right of the page.
- On the resulting Log In page, enter your email address, then click the?Email me a link to log in?button.
- When you receive the email message (the subject is ¡°Link to log into Groups.io¡±), click the login link provided in the message. You are logged in to Groups.io, and your?Groups.io home page?is displayed on the website.
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-- No "Log In" link shown at top right? You need to log out first.
-- Doesn't accept your email address? You never registered that one (or perhaps you typo'ed it).
-- Email address accepted but no email arrives with a login link? Check your Spam/Junk folder.
-- You click the login link in the email but you don't get logged in? Tell us what error message(s) you get.
-- You manage to log in but there's no Owner badge (or Admin menu item)? This email address does not own the group. Log out and try again with the next email address.
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If you do all this for all three email addresses and it still doesn't work:
-- Did you recently merge two accounts? Group ownership can be lost in this way (I thought Mark fixed this, but perhaps not).
-- Do these groups have any co-owners? Maybe someone demoted you (perhaps even your husband).?
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At each step, you have to tell us what does/does not happen. "It doesn't work" tells us nothing.
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Please help us help you.?
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Good luck,
Bruce
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Thanks, Thomas. ?It doesn¡¯t apply here as my husband has the same IP and he still has Moderator privileges. ?I don¡¯t have any capability. ?It¡¯s something to do with my account.?
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On Feb 17, 2025, at 05:59, Thomas Gruber via groups.io <computerhusky@...> wrote:
Hi Jane,
please check messages #48845 and #48849 by Dan Lepinski in this topic, where he describes what caused the problem in his case. It was basically caused by some change made by his internet provider, without telling their customers. Nothing he caused by wrong login.
Maybe your problem is similar.?
Thomas
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It''s wise to have yourself as a co-owner under a different name and even a different email provider. A hack happened to an owner I know while at at an overseas hotel.
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But accidents and heat attacks also occur.
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If you trade back up duties with a cat list owner yo can add safety and avoid friction, if your list is say, for cars.
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BillSF9c
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I have checked your group out and sent a message to the group owner, which should indicate the email address you need to use to sign in as owner
If you don't receive it check your spam folder
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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On 16/02/2025 22:58, Jane Gilman via groups.io wrote: Thank you Nivard.The link worked, but I can't log in as owner. ? The left panel always showed Admin but it's disappeared.? Similarly the Admin button at the bottom of the Home Page is missing.? I can log in only as a member.
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Re: How do I know if a member is reading our content
I do wish that folks wouldn't try to impose blanket judgments universally.? There are other perspectives.
For many/most groups lurking may not make much difference -- however, IMO, that depends on what sort of group it is.? Some here appear to view groups as sorta like social media.? But others of us have different uses.? Here's an example that I would guess doesn't match hardly anyone else's:
Many of the groups I am an owner of are "consciousness work" groups.? (These fall within the personal growth realm.)? Everything in that organization is considered an opportunity for growth and learning, whether it's supporting one's transformational work, being a team member, or stepping into a leadership role.? In such groups, it's energetically funky if someone who is a member of such a group isn't active (or even seen).? This even applies to our work teams.? (I won't go into how collective energetics works.)
And there's always the notion that the observer, merely by the act of observing, affects or alters the thing being observed.
So, depending on what sort of group it is, "silent viewing, non-viewing, and leaving the group" can all have different effects, regardless of whether you can perceive them.
Yours,
Cal
From: "Peter S. Shenkin via groups.io" <shenkin@...>
To: "GroupManagersForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 2:36:57 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] How do I know if a member is reading our content
On a group that I co-own, the founder was upset when someone who recently joined didn't contribute and was concerned that?he might not even be reading postings. In fact, I? pointed out to him that several people whom we both know who are experts in the subject matter monitor the group ("lurk", as one of them put it) but don't contribute. Somehow he didn't feel the same way about them.?
I really could not fathom why he was upset about this. If a lurker leaves, or a member doesn't even lurk, it doesn't make him more invisible. They don't?affect anything that?the active participants are doing. He eventually accepted my way of thinking.?
I can understand it better if it's a free group about to reach its 100-member limit,?or if there are enough silent participants to?seriously?affect the?membership charge for a large paid group. But aside from that, as far as I can see, silent viewing, non-viewing and leaving the group all have absolutely?no effect on?what active participants are doing and getting from the group. Someone said it's unfair if someone hangs around and doesn't read postings, but the original poster felt it was fair if they do read postings but don't contribute. I just don't see the difference.?
-P.
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Hi Jane,
please check messages #48845 and #48849 by Dan Lepinski in this topic, where he describes what caused the problem in his case. It was basically caused by some change made by his internet provider, without telling their customers. Nothing he caused by wrong login.
Maybe your problem is similar.?
Thomas
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Re: Populating Groups.IO calendar via email
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 06:40 AM, SooHoo, Spencer L wrote:
I an sending a .ics file to a group Groups.IO and although the message is received with the .ics file as an attachment,? I don't know how to get it to automatically populate the calendar in the subgroup.
This process works just fine. Just send your meeting invite to your subgroup. This example shows how the invite appears in my Outlook 365 client before sending:
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Depending upon your group settings, the meeting invite may show up as a pending message on your group. The paperclip symbol indicates there's an attachment (in this case it's the .ics file which contains the meeting details):
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When the message is processed by Groups.io, you will see a sent message and added event entry on the Activity Log. If the message required approval, you will see an entry for that too.
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The meeting request will then show in your subgroup calendar:
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Regards
Andy
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Re: Populating Groups.IO calendar via email
Hi,
I checked the help file (Member¡®s manual) but didn¡®t find any reference to ?create groups.io calendar entries using ICS files¡°. I suspect that¡®s not possible. Check yourself - Help - Members Manual.
You can export existing calendar entries into an ICS files, but not the other way round it seems.
Thomas
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Populating Groups.IO calendar via email
Hi, this probably has been covered but I looked through the thread and am unable to find a solution.? I an sending a .ics file to a group Groups.IO and although the message is received with the .ics file as an attachment,? I don't know how to get it to automatically populate the calendar in the subgroup.? I have a premium subscription.
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I can access 2 of my 3?accounts but not as Owner or Admin. As my screen shot shows, Admin doesn't appear in the left side bar.
Thank you, Duane.? I tried to sign in with each of the 2 possible accounts I own with no luck. ? On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:15 PM, Jane Gilman wrote:
The link worked, but I can't log in as owner.
It sounds to me like you're using the wrong email address.? That will determine which account you get logged in to.? Do you have another email address that you used to create an account?
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Duane
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Thank you, Duane.? I tried to sign in with each of the 2 possible accounts I own with no luck. ?
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:15 PM, Jane Gilman wrote:
The link worked, but I can't log in as owner.
It sounds to me like you're using the wrong email address.? That will determine which account you get logged in to.? Do you have another email address that you used to create an account?
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Duane
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Re: How do I know if a member is reading our content
Do lurkers increase the efforts of the 15-20 active posters? Would purging lurkers improve the list for posters? In general, I don't see the harm in people subscribing but not posting. In fact, I wish more people exercised restraint in posting, asking themselves whether everyone on the list needs to see what's about to be posted.? That would reduce the number of "Me too", "Yes, please post that" and "Thanks" posts -- which are mostly just noise.
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?A specialist group with a specialist interest seems a good place for aspiring and new specialists to learn about your specialized interests, which seems useful. I'm on many lists, some general and some specialized. Some are for fields where I worked for many years -- I mostly lurk on them but occasionally post answering/asking questions or commenting on discussions.
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On the many lists I own, I see the same ratio posters/subscribers as you describe -- and see nothing wrong with it. In fact, it's common across lists; it's the nature of communities -- 80/20 rule strikes again. Unless there's some reason to restrict what's posted to people actively posting -- why care about it?
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 08:49 AM, Barry wrote:
I consider on balance that it is my business to know who is just watching our group as opposed to being positively involved. We are not restricted in terms of numbers of members, because we are a specialist group with a specialist interest. We have only 160 members.
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Of those numbers maybe 15-20 hold it all together at most. The efforts of those to keep it going is therefore considerable. We see on average 100 posts per month. If I knew who the watchers were, as opposed to the contributors - I'd ask them to leave, its as simple as that. This being on the basis of it being wholly fair on those that contribute - who wants to talk to no-one - barry.
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:15 PM, Jane Gilman wrote:
The link worked, but I can't log in as owner.
It sounds to me like you're using the wrong email address.? That will determine which account you get logged in to.? Do you have another email address that you used to create an account?
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Duane
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Make sure you check your spam folder. It may have arrived in there. And after you put the email address in, make sure you hit the send button.
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On Feb 16, 2025, at 3:01?PM, Jane Gilman via groups.io <jane.gilman@...> wrote:
I've logged in from my?2 browsers.? I followed your suggestion to "email me a link" with no luck.?
I cannot locate the Admin function on our home page or anywhere.? I can't access our member list. My last access was. on January?7 and I changed nothing since. (This is a good reminder to?all to?build in some redundancy in case you also are locked out.) ?CAN ANYONE HELP ME?? I welcome all suggestions.
I am using a password keeper so there is little chance I entered an incorrect pw. Nevertheless I followed all the steps for requesting a new password, getting the email link and going back in but it never worked and I got trapped in a loop of rejection.
How about trying a different browser and then using Email Me A Link To Login if the password doesn't work?
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Frances
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Thanks.? I've tried that.? The point is, ?I can't restore my status as Owner/Admin and without that I don't have functionality to assign myself either title.?
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 6:16?PM Donald Hellen via <donhellen= [email protected]> wrote: Ask to have a login link sent to you by email. Then use that link to log into
your account. You can change your account information if you need to.
Donald
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:34:41 -0500, "Jane Gilman via "
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>> It's not "ownerless".? I'm still getting owner e-mail and messages sent to the "owner" address.
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM? ?/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp? ? /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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Ask to have a login link sent to you by email. Then use that link to log into your account. You can change your account information if you need to. Donald On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:34:41 -0500, "Jane Gilman via groups.io" <jane.gilman@...> wrote:
It's not "ownerless". I'm still getting owner e-mail and messages sent to the "owner" address.
---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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