Just to update from my (brief) period of testing.
I've had the suggested filter in place for a couple of days now and haven't observed any different behaviour. Nothing blocked that should have got through and no spam received at all (or in my on-line spam box).
Again, it doesn't help with the problem but sometimes even no information can help the diagnosis.

Sue

Tim

It is good to know that. I used to rage against Artificial Intelligence until I found some real people using it, too.

I tried sending a group message with different words in the title just now, and all the messages came through properly and pretty quickly. I then sent another message with a title very similar to the offending title, and that got through promptly as well.

Perhaps BT Yahoo can learn from users marking messages as "not spam", but is just a very slow learner. It was exactly the same mailing list, so it should not be a bcc versus individual email issue. My BT Yahoo in fact receives mail with multiple blind copies from a number of sources. We just have to trust BT to be better at knowing which messages we wish to receive than we are.

I have a paid-for ISP for anything important.

Thanks

John Clube

Ken,

So I end up w/.several topics listed,
ALL have exactly the *same name *???

Nothing mysterious about that. There's nothing that says topics can't have the same Subject text. Just look at GMF's #changelog.

Trying to get a new message into the new topic, I copy/pasted the
title into an email.

If you mean that you edited the messages while pending, I've had mixed results with that. If the incoming messages have In-Reply-To fields in their headers that may derail your edit attempt.

I haven't taken the time yet to try and really track down the failed cases to see what the logic must have been.

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Lloyd,

I want to get to the individual user profile in the group and limit it
to just viewing by those group members.

You cannot. Only the member can set the Profile Privacy of his/her profile.

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I think, Lloyd, you would have to set up a database.?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Databases

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 07:05 PM, lloyd lehrer wrote:

I cannot see a way to get to a profile limited to a specific group.? what are the steps to do that?

From any group page, select Subscription from the left-side menu bar, then click the Group Profile button at the top of the resulting page.

You can also go to /account, click the Identity button on the left-side menu bar, then?click the Edit button for any group profile that you want to edit. Be sure to change the Profile Privacy entry, if you want anyone else to see it.

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 06:03 PM, Andy W wrote:

However, when I look at the directory entry for a number of groups and subgroups, it only shows my name and date of joining.? On other groups, I see the profile as you described. ?I can’t see any relationship between those where I see the profile and those where I don’t.

Go to?/account?page=profile&profilesubid=0. The message in the grey box at the top probably explains this.

There is an account profile and individual group profiles. The intent is that you can customize each group profile to discuss topics of interest to other members of the group.

Hope this helps,
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On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:58 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:

Assuming the subscriber clicked the wrong button... false reports from this cause probably could be prevented by requiring a reason be given... check for at least 10 characters as a reason and don't accept the report until one is given. That should be enough for someone clicking accidentally to say "Oops" and cancel the report.

Agreed. I had another thought along those lines; mainly, simply moving the two buttons in the dialog box to opposite sides of the screen, so as to make it more difficult to fat-finger the wrong one. At the same time, such things are properly feature requests, and should be vetted in beta; with the additional understanding that few "inappropriate content" reports are likely to be happening, erroneous or otherwise.?

All that aside, I was informed yesterday (and I've confirmed this in ShalsTest) that the link in the email sent to group Moderators/Owners when a photo is reported as inappropriate now correctly takes you to the "offending" photo. I find myself once again dazzled by how promptly Mark gets on top of such things.

FYI,
Bruce
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Mark has today to what it was back in early December.

I have similarly reverted GMF's corresponding wiki page.

FYI,
Bruce
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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 01:03 PM, David Grimm wrote:

If a file or photo has no attribution shown, it is safe to say it was uploaded by a former member of the group?

Any content posted by Y!G members who are not transferred for whatever reason (they'd left the group, their email address is bouncing, etc.) is reassigned to the group owner who performed the transfer (probably you). If a group member leaves the GIO group afterward, his/her content is left without an attribution.

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Mike,

I'd bet money a number of you have made that journey and I'm hoping
you'll be willing to share your experiences.

Ding, ding, ding! A winner. We've gathered some notes about the process here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

See also GMF's Hashtags page and click on #testimonials

o Does the migration still work - I've seen conflicting reports

The Easy Groups Transfer mechanism is currently disabled:


It is unknown how long this outage will last, or whether it is permanent.

You can, if you want, export your Manage Members list from the Yahoo Group (you just squeak by under their 1000 member export limit) and either Invite or Direct Add your list to your new Groups.io group. Direct Add is a Premium feature, but there's an option to pay a one-time fee of $10 to have Premium for a month, it automatically reverts to Basic after 30 days.

However, all the other content from the Yahoo Group would have to be manually uploaded to the Groups.io group.

See also Personal Groupware, and ask if their PG Offline product is still functional. They also provide an alternative group service, if that has gotten off the ground:

* Is there an export option? So, if we're not happy we can take our
data and go home.

Yes.

On the Settings page of the group there's an Export Group Data button. That opens a page with a list of checkboxes for the items you'd like to export. Basically everything is available.

The export is created as a zip archive and you are sent (by email) a link to the zip file when it is ready.

Some of the people in our group are more cautious than others, so
we're looking at a number of options.

If you want to kick the tires as a group owner feel free to create a test group to try things out. That will give you some more questions to ask ... ;-)

Or use mine:


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Hi Mike

I am very happy with Groups.io too. We migrated a couple of groups but this was a couple of years ago. Easy.

I wanted to answer about moderation. Nice feature - you can see a message is claimed so you don't deal with it when another moderator already is. It is easy to moderate through email - blank reply, basically. Easy through the website as well.

Support is great. Advice ?and support through this forum. Suggestions, etc. through Beta. Or Support email if it is a problem. (Only did that a couple of times over the year.)

Lots of subscriptions options for members. On one of my groups, I set the default so that the user gets the first message only in any thread, plus threads they write in. And the user can opt to follow a specific thread. Useful for someone who doesn't want too much email or chitchat. Of course a member can change their subscriptions to one of a couple of digests, all posts, or summary.?

I have opted to prevent "no mail" option - I want all members to get the occasional Special Message from me.?

I also allow non-members to post, subject to moderation, on my unmoderated groups. That means someone who is marginally attached can send something and I decide whether or not it goes to the members.

I find email aliases handy - so I can send from more than one email address. I encourage this because some want to post from their work email, but receive the email to their home address.

Yes, there is an export option - in Settings.

In a few of my groups, we use the Files. In two others, we use the Wiki. (Good wiki, I think, in GMF.)?

Lots of options!?

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I can answer a couple?of your questions. First, I am extremely happy with Groups IO!! The customer service and support in groups IO is wonderful....... Very hands on and approachable and quick. ? I think Yahoo put a snag in the migration process so moving to groups IO would either need to be done right now by invitation to your members or through sending them a link to join. Automatic transfer I believe?has been temporarily suspended. ? I am?very happy with the group manager experience. I have 6 groups on groups IO ? If I had to do it all over again, I would leave Y Groups in a heartbeat all over again! ? Groups IO is the best! ? ? ? ?

A group I'm in (the Bread Baker's Guild of America) wants to migrate away from Yahoo Groups.? I'd bet money a number of you have made that journey and I'm hoping you'll be willing to share your experiences.

Some of the people in our group are more cautious than others, so we're looking at a number of options.

If you could answer some questions, it would help us make the decision -

• How was the migration from Yahoo Groups?
• Does the migration still work - I've seen conflicting reports
• How is the user experience?? Are your users happy?
• How is the group manager experience?? Are you happy?
• How is support?? Are your issues addressed in a timely fashion?
• Is there an export option?? So, if we're not happy we can take our data and go home.
• If you had it to do all over again, what would you do this time?

Many thanks,
Mike

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:03 PM, David Grimm wrote:

Is there any way to move those Files folders or their contents to the Photos section, or even the appropriate folder within the Photos section, and maintain the attribution to the original poster?

There's not an easy (bulk) way.? You (as group owner) could upload the photos where they need to be, then assign ownership.? Unfortunately, you'd need to do this through the Edit function for each Photo.

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