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June,

I hate the idea of rushing to create a whole bunch of subgroups which
may or may not be actually be needed in the future but at the moment I
don't see any alternative.

There is no need.

Your primary group was created before the 15th, so its ability to create new subgroups will be "grandfathered in" - not just the specific subgroups you have now.


Shal


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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 04:04 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

A co - owner has full moderator powers and privileges by default.

True, but the co-owners needn’t receive all of the moderating emails, etc.?

Their subscription needs altering to stop receiving them.?

Frances
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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 08:26 PM, kruffing wrote:

I don't plan to make the new owners into moderators.? That's not necessary, right?? They could promote themselves if they wanted?

A co - owner has full moderator powers and privileges by default.

Chris

June,

1. Login and go to your groups webpage on GroupsIO

2. On the left column click on PHOTOS

3. On that page at the top should be a bottom to click on NEW ALBUM

4. Enter the name for the album.

5. Enter the description field

6. Drag and drop photos.? (sometimes a bunch would work, else you got to do one-by-one.? Not sure what the reasoning behind that is.)

BMaverick

Friends,

I'm the owner of a smallish group that smoothly made the transfer from Yahoo in November.? We're a group of alumni from a government agency who worked closely together and, yes, take institutional pride.? By "smallish" I mean we have about 125 members (though I expect that to grow, not least because GIO is so, so much better than Yahoo!).

I'm healthy but, hey, not immortal.? And I saw the great consternation that many groups couldn't take advantage of "easy transfer" because a Yahoo group's owner had died, disappeared, or just plain lost interest.? Only an owner could authorize a transfer.

So I plan to ask two trusted members if they wouldn't mind being promoted to owner.

Our group is unmoderated; membership is restricted (i.e., requires approval), but over 10 years there's never been any need to moderate messages except in two cases where members' email accounts were hacked.

I don't plan to make the new owners into moderators.? That's not necessary, right?? They could promote themselves if they wanted?

Thanks in advance,
Kathy

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, Annick wrote:

However they are now landing in the spam folder there so she has to contact them to ask how to mark them as "not spam" as she can't find a way to do that there.

And on Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 12:18 PM, Cheryl replied:

If she is on her computer,? there is an icon that says not spam. If she is on her phone, there isn't an icon. Instead,? she had to move the email to her inbox. I have to do this with all of Shal's emails for some reason, since Comcast thinks all of his emails are spam.?
Cheryl?

I had the same problem with Comcast marking some of my Groups.io mail as spam. Yes, as several have pointed out, she can log into the web UI for her email and move the contents from the spam folder back to the inbox, but I couldn't find a simple way to notify Comcast that Groups.io mail isn't spam. What I ended up doing was going through the menu online until I found how to create a 'rule' that would automatically move anything from Groups.io from the Spam folder into the Inbox folder.

I consider myself a slightly-better than average computer user (but FAR from a professional IT and not even in the same league with the moderators and some other users of this group) and it took me a while to figure a solution. I can see where the average user that only wants to read their email (especially one like me that really doesn't want to read the mail on-line) would have difficulty setting this up. Why can't Comcast just create a button that allows 'mail from this domain' be not marked as spam? I know, rhetorical question.

Dave

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 12:18 PM, Karen Scarr wrote:

I saw in a post here that Mark would be willing to upload the mbox files (I assume this would yield the same benefit of using Easy Transfer, yes?) if I pay for Premium Yearly ($220).? Does that offer still stand?? If so I'd love to do it.?

Karen -- At least one person has recently (January 9) reported that groups.io will import your mbox file in exchange for a Premium Yearly payment. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69538488#27265?for a discussion, and also the ?(15th bullet).

You must, of course, make the appropriate group upgrade payment, contact support at?[email protected], provide Mark with the mbox file(s) in some manner, and let him know into which [sub]group you want them to go.

Please note that this is the ONLY way to import your messages while retaining posting date and message ownership.

While we're at it, take a good look at your mbox files (open one in NotePad or similar) and look at some of the message headers. Are the sending email addresses truncated (i.e.: lacking domain information)? If so, importing the files may not be possible.

I've had really mixed results with this...sometimes Yahoo has provided mbox files with truncated email addresses, and sometimes not, even for the same group. Generally speaking, anyone attempting this should try to obtain Moderator status before requesting an export via the Y!G Privacy Dashboard.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 12:44 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:

but if they ever want to visit any other group area (Files, Photos, etc***), then they would have to complete (i.e. add a password) to their GIO account, right?

No, they can have a login link emailed to them.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In? Since it goes to their email address, no one can impersonate them unless they have access to the email address.? There have been a few cases that I know of where a member never had a password, but would log in now and then.? (If you visit at least once per 30 days and don't delete cookies, you don't need to log in again.)

Duane
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Thanks Mark and Robert for the explanation of the term. It's a usage I'm not familar with.

I will procede with my plans for other subgroups for logical geographical sub-parts of the county.

Malcolm.

One of our group members is not receiving emails that everyone else is. They use Outlook as their mail application.
Their delivery log shows: "451 4.7.650 The mail server [xxxxxxxxx] has been temporarily rate limited due to IP reputation."

?It seems that Outlook filters our messages because of the volume coming from Groups IO.

Is there a fix for this?
Thanks!

Duane,

Bryan,

While the idea itself is sound, IMO, using a subgroup for this would really depend on how many mods you have and whether you want to have any conversations, attachments, files, photos, etc, archived for later reference or reuse when a new mod comes in, etc; if yes, a (private) subgroup would work great with all the features GIO has, although keep in mind that if you don't already have a subgroup already, there are some addressing changes that take place as stated.

Taking into account the caveats already been stated, if you don't care about archiving anything or have maybe a few mods, it'll be less work just doing it through an email list; or use the +owner address as suggested, but keep in mind in this case, in order for this to work effectively, all mods will have to have the receive owner email to ON otherwise this scheme will not work well.

Cheers,
Christos

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:35 AM, June Genis wrote:

I hate the idea of rushing to create a whole bunch of subgroups which may or may not be actually be needed in the future but at the moment I don't see any alternative.

As long as you already have the main group, you can still create and delete subgroups as you want, even after the deadline.? If you might want other main/sub groups, you'd need to create the main group now.

Duane
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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:18 AM, Karen Scarr wrote:

I saw in a post here that Mark would be willing to upload the mbox files (I assume this would yield the same benefit of using Easy Transfer, yes?) if I pay for Premium Yearly ($220).? Does that offer still stand?? If so I'd love to do it.? Just tell me what to do.

See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io#Upload-Services

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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:17 AM, txercoupemuseum.org wrote:

Since it is already possible to view our archived messages in sequence by date and time, I was merely asking how to view the assigned message numbers that make that possible. ? While writing this up, I see you have answered this question in your answer to Victoria…that the message number shows up in email footers.

While online, you can also go into the Messages view and look at each one to the right of the senders name/handle.? Or for any view, while looking within the message or topic, there will be a hyperlink at the upper right of the message that contains the message number.? For example, your message that I'm replying to is 27422.

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