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Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 06:32 PM, Events events wrote:
Is there something that can be done about this? ?It seems like the default messages do not meet the needs of many group owners.
Most of the boilerplate currently in place has to be present for legal reasons. This is particularly true in the EU.

At a minimum, you must let the recipient know exactly what is happening and give them a chance to opt out.



Bruce


Re: Message search by numbers

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 08:41 AM, txercoupemuseum.org wrote:
But at the bottom of our Home Page it says we have originated 12,410 ¡°Topics¡± since April of 2006 although I see no total for the ¡°Message History" year/month summary at the bottom of that page (which includes many, many individual messages brought over from our Yahoo days).
The numbers in the Message History chart are the number of messages for each month, so should add up to a somewhat larger number than the number of Topics (assuming it's not an announcement only group.)? There is no total for those.

Presumably those, too, have been assigned a ¡°message number¡±. ?How would one similarly view and search those by message number?
Because all imported messages have been assigned a new message number on GIO, there won't be an easy way to correlate to YG message numbers.? You'd really need to know some information within a message to search for it, rather than the original number.

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Re: Message search by numbers

 

Victoria,

Simple.?

1. When logged into to you group on the GroupsIO website, click on the left column titled MESSAGES.

2. At the top right part of the screen, there is a box to enter the message number.? Place in the number you have and hit enter.

3. The message then appears.

This is very helpful vs. the search or arrows to scroll thru pages upon pages of kept messages.? Now, if you do not have the message number, then the search is the fastest way.

BMaverick


Re: How to find (not disclosed) emails?

 

John,

Out of our 2783 members, I was able to pluck out about 1,600 from the membership list by sorting the column methods and exporting each one.?

As for the non-disclosed, I was able to snag just a few.? How is this possible?? Well, the member chose to use their EMAIL as their user ID.? That was one way to hunt thru the non-disclosed listings.? The other way was a little more inventive.? When a SPECIAL notice on YG is sent out, those with non-disclosed emails can reply to the mod or owner.? When they do, your home email GETS their EMAIL ADDRESS when they reply to the the message.? Otherwise, it's not been noticed beyond these two methods.? On Geocities, we had the ability to keep emails totally anonymous and when moved to Yahoo, Yahoo kept that feature for us folks.

Glad you can be creative to snag all the members with the methods.?? Making the listing in EXCEL is easy with 'sort for duplicates' and 'filter' out the non-disclosed.? Before doing the sort and filter, make a backup of the file.?? Once done, the GroupsIO INVITE feature will work really nicely with the listing.? The cut-n-paste does take a moment for the paste buffer to load into the GroupsIO field.? It's not spontaneously instant.? Basically, that paste is coming from your computer, over the internet and filling in the INVITE field.?

With that many loaded INVITES, you will get a noticed that a GroupsIO system level moderator has to review and approve your INVITE request.? It didn't take long for that to happen.? 1/2 day.? But I wasn't in no instant hurray.? Glad it works. :) :) :)
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Re: Message search by numbers

 

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Hi Duane,

This works fine for the 715 messages posted since 10/30/2019 when our group moved from Yahoo to . ?But at the bottom of our Home Page it says we have originated 12,410 ¡°Topics¡± since April of 2006 although I see no total for the ¡°Message History" year/month summary at the bottom of that page (which includes many, many individual messages brought over from our Yahoo days).

Presumably those, too, have been assigned a ¡°message number¡±. ?How would one similarly view and search those by message number?

Best!

WRB

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On Jan 11, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 07:42 AM, Victoria wrote:
How can I search a message if I only know its number?
Change your message view to Messages or Expanded, then enter the message number in the box at the upper right, just to the left of Date, and hit enter.

Duane
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Re: Comcast problems again?

 

Shal, That is a good work-around for those who are more computer literate than my member. I also use MS Outlook with a POP setting, but when I go to my provider's? web interface, I can look at the spam folder there and mark any relevant emails as "not spam" and then it gets sent to my Outlook email. But this member having the Comcast problem is not finding a way at the Comcast web interface to mark an email in the spam folder as "not spam". Does anyone know if she is missing something, or is there no method at the Comcast web interface to do that?
Annick


Re: How do we delete something that was put twice in the Directory

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 07:45 AM, Margo Seegrist wrote:
How do we (or the individual who created it) delete a second profile in the Directory?
The only way to have a second entry is to have a second account.? To remove it from the Directory, just edit the Group Profile for that account to change the Profile Privacy.

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Re: member activity history

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 07:44 AM, Victoria wrote:
After a member has left our group and their email address as displayed in the ¡°leave¡± message is the only indication I have of the unsubscribed member, is there a way to obtain a history of their activities
I don't have a Premium group, but there's supposed to be a choice for Past Members in the drop down at the top of the Members page.? I don't know if it will include what you want or not.

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Re: Message search by numbers

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 07:42 AM, Victoria wrote:
How can I search a message if I only know its number?
Change your message view to Messages or Expanded, then enter the message number in the box at the upper right, just to the left of Date, and hit enter.

Duane
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Re: Message search by numbers

 

Not sure if this is precise enough. Go into activity and then all activity and in the drop down menu "Actions" chose "sent message", you then get sent messages in reverse order (i.e. newest/biggest number) at the top. You can then scroll through to find the right number. This might be painful if you have several hundred/thousand and you are trying to find one somewhere in the middle. However you could jump multiple pages till you get close and then go page by page.

HTH
Sherry

On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 13:42, Victoria via Groups.Io <dr.vcaesar=[email protected]> wrote:

How can I search a message if I only know its number?

Victoria


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How do we delete something that was put twice in the Directory

 

A member in a group that I am Moderator for just emailed to say she accidentally created herself twice in the Directory and wants to delete one of them.? I looked as Moderator to see if I could delete the second one and then went to another site I'm owner of to see if there was anything there that I could click on to delete but there wasn't.

How do we (or the individual who created it) delete a second profile in the Directory?

Sincerely,

Rli@...


Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc

 

No it would not have been better if I had posted it in the beta group. I was not 100% sure it couldn't be done and that was made more uncertain when Frances's reply to the OP did not say it couldn't and appeared to give instructions as to how to defeat the default message.

It is not that the message is too long; it is for my personal reasons that I find it too terse for inviting people I already know. I wanted to make it friendlier but at the same time not clutter it up with irrelevant wording that I dislike. I will not attempt to justify my reasons as that will simply result in a battle of others trying to knock down my personal preferences as has already been started.

In? future I will not be using the Invite message but will create my own from personal email.

Matter closed for me but maybe not for the OP and at least one other.


Re: GIO changes from Mark

 

Grandfathering means that the change will not affect previously created groups.? They will continue under the old policy.

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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 5:57 AM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:
I'm a GIO-newbie having brought over a family history list from Rootsweb. I actually brought over two lists, one covered a geographical subset of the other so I created the subset as a subgroup. As I'm on the basic/free plan this change will affect me ...

Can someone please explain what 'grandfathering in' means? I have looked in the GMF wiki but maybe need to look further in the documentation.

I don't fully understand GIO yet but I will say that I like what I have seen :-)

Malcolm.?


member activity history

 

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After a member has left our group and their email address as displayed in the ¡°leave¡± message is the only indication I have of the unsubscribed member, is there a way to obtain a history of their activities (not email activity) similar to the one yahoo offered? I am referring to a member?s activity history from joining to leaving the group (including various changes of email addresses and display names)?

Victoria

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Re: GIO changes from Mark

 

"Grandfathering" means that the restrictions part of the new rules applies only to newly created groups. No capabilities are removed from groups which already exist. Specifically, your existiong subgroups will be fine, and your current basic groups can continue to create new subgroups.

I think of my own grandfather with this word. He started to drive before there was any driving test in Britain, possibly even before there was a driving licence. He was never required to pass a driving test, even 50 years later: his right to the driving licence was grandfathered in.

? - Mark (not that Mark, of course)


Message search by numbers

 

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How can I search a message if I only know its number?

Victoria


Re: New owner help please #howto

 

Thank you SO much for this information :-)?

Loving and now loving this Forum :-)

Sherry

On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 07:20, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Sherry,

?> 1. A member has asked about replying when he is on summary mode...
?> " ... To ... reply to a topic click the subject." But then couldn't
?> see any obvious Reply button."

When you click on the Subject of an item in the Daily Summary that's a
link that takes you to that Topic in the group's Messages section.

What does the member see?

If the member can see the messages but can't see the Reply link in the
bar under each message that tells me two things: 1) your group's
messages are public, and 2) the member is not logged in to Groups.io or
is logged in with an address that is not subscribed to your group. Have
the member look at the text at the very bottom of the Daily Summary. It
will say "you are subscribed to ... via (his email address here)". The
email address shown when logged in must match the subscribed address.
(screenshot here: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/27062 )

If the member sees your home page or something else, same answer: he is
not logged in or is logged in with a non-subscribed email address; but
your group does not show messages to non-members.

?> I note that some of my membership are showing as *Summary* and some as
?> *Summary [R]*

An R in a blue box means that the member has selected "Auto Follow
Replies" in the Advanced Preferences section of his/her Subscription.
That feature is intended for use with Individual or Digest delivery, I
don't think it has any effect when used with Daily Summary.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

?> 2. A member has reported regarding posting an image that "it only
?> seems to accept jpgs, as I found when I tried a bmp [no error message,
?> just nothing happens]" again I could find nothing about image types
?> that would be accepted and which (if any) would not.

As far as I know any type would be accepted, but it may depend on how
the member posts the message (via his/her email interface, or via the
group's interface) and how one views the resulting message.

I haven't tried BMP, but it (like TIFF) has a lot of variations and are
sometimes very large files. I've used JPG (for images) and PNG (for
screenshots and drawings); both are much more standardized and typically
more compact.

Shal


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Re: How to find (not disclosed) emails?

 

On 11/01/2020 03:45, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:13 PM, John Robertson wrote:

I have been lurking, but now have a question. Trying to move a
Yahoo group (Dneprheads) and when I did the big download as an
owner for the basic 1,000 list (doing the screen dump) a lot came
through as "(not disclosed)". I did get all the archived messages,
images, and data.
You have to be a Moderator of the group to get the email addresses.
Even as a moderator (even as a group owner) of the Yahoogroup, there can
be "(not disclosed)" members. I've seen it several times in member
lists that I download using the screen dump method, as a moderator.

Samuel


Re: GIO changes from Mark

 

I'm a GIO-newbie having brought over a family history list from Rootsweb. I actually brought over two lists, one covered a geographical subset of the other so I created the subset as a subgroup. As I'm on the basic/free plan this change will affect me ...

Can someone please explain what 'grandfathering in' means? I have looked in the GMF wiki but maybe need to look further in the documentation.

I don't fully understand GIO yet but I will say that I like what I have seen :-)

Malcolm.?


Re: "Reply All" and "cc" issues

 

Many thanks to Chris, Duane and Bruce for their very helpful posts, and apologies for the slow response. And I am embarrassed to say that, after examining our Activity Log (at Chris's suggestion) I can now see that I was mistaken. Although the non-member did in fact "Reply All" to the message that was copied to our group, his message WAS NOT in fact received by our members. Confusingly, the non-member also blind copied in a (non groups.io) list, of which many of our members are also subscribed. So to an untrained eye (like mine) it looked like his message had breached our wall, when in fact his inclusion of our groups.io list as a recipient would not have got through to us.?

I have also checked our Message Policies, on Bruce's suggestion, and indeed the first checkbox was already unchecked.

So, false alarm. Please accept my apologies.

Barry