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Marie,

If I make a subgroup in one of my groups, will all of the people in my
group and the subgroup, receive email from both groups?

Everyone who is a member of both the primary and the subgroup will receive messages from both the primary and the subgroup. Subject to their subscription settings (which are separate - they can be digest in one and individual in the other).

Note that no one can be a member of the subgroup without also being a member of the primary group - that's the meaning of subgroup here: each subgroup is a subset of the primary membership.

Note also that when you create the subgroup no one will be automatically made a member of it - you'll have to add primary group members to the subgroup, and/or allow them to join on their own.

Shal


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A follow-up...

I wrote:

So I let that reminder push me to flesh out the descriptions of the
message footers.

In the course of writing that I encountered a number of "quirks" about the footers. I made note of these, intending to post them to beta. Please have a look at them, and at the page, and help make my quirk/bug list better and more complete before it goes to beta:

o Formatted Digest View/Reply Online link opens a Reply composition box. The View/Reply in individual messages just navigates to the message.

I'm not sure if that leads to an excess of abandoned drafts - maybe the system doesn't store the draft if the user doesn't type into the Reply composition box.

o Formatted Digest View/Reply link is followed by a count of the messages in that topic. Which seems out of place; in an individual message it is followed by the message number.

o Formatted Digest footer has the word "group" included in the linkified text, along with the group's posting address. It seems like the link should only include the address, as elsewhere.

o Formatted Digest header has the group's posting address link to the group's Messages section, in Messages view, whereas the footer has it link to the group home page. I think they should both be the group home page.

o Formatted Digest has no ToS link.

o Formatted individual footers have no automatic separators surrounding the group-specific addition. Compare to the plain-text footers. I think perhaps a short horizontal rule is in order. Say <hr style="width:10%">. Or maybe just an indent, to save vertical space

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Earlier, I wrote:

> CHANGE: Condensed HTML message footers.

That reminds me I have a Wiki page I need to finish...

So I let that reminder push me to flesh out the descriptions of the message footers. It was quite a while ago that someone was asking about them and I set about to answer. Apologies for the delay.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers

Those with an interest in the topic please have a look at it and correct any typos, errors, and omissions; or other problems you find with it.

I've linked to this from the Quick-Start section of the Wiki home page, on the theory that it will help our group members use the features in the messages they receive.

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I have a question about making subgroups. If I make a subgroup in one of my groups, will all of the people in my group and the subgroup, receive email from both groups?


Thanks for any help or advice for this.
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Paul,

Now my question: One of our moderators says he cannot see the Direct
Add button under the Admin button when expanded. All he says he can
see are the following four: Pending / Members / Subgroups /
Activity
...
All his MODERATOR PERMISSIONS ARE checked EXCEPT these five:
Manage Subgroups
Add or Modify Integrations
Modify Group Settings
Billing
Set Moderator Privileges

I can't reproduce this in my group. In my group the Invite Members permission correctly controls these two (Invite and Direct Add).

If you're certain that you've checked Invite Members for this mod, and saved that (blue Save button at the very bottom), make certain that the mod has refreshed their page at groups.io. I don't think logging out and back in again is needed, just F5 or Ctrl+F5 refresh should do it.

If the problem still persists you may need to contact [email protected] to resolve it.

Shal


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Patty,

Second question: I think I have a very small handful of of Yahoo
Groups list members who went over and signed up for our inactive,
placeholder Groups.IO mirror group. Will that pose an issue when we
transfer from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO?

If they joined the Groups.io group with a different email address than is listed in the Y!group those won't be recognized as the same person; which will result in them having two Groups.io subscriptions - which may cause them some confusion. That used to be a bigger problem, but now I think they can resolve this after the fact by merging those two Groups.io accounts.

Otherwise the only downside is that any address already present in the Groups.io Members list will be skipped when copying in Memberships from the Y!Groups. So those particular members will not have their subscription info (date joined, email delivery, posting privilege) copied over from the Y!Group. They've probably already adjusted their delivery setting the way they want, but you may want to double-check their posting privilege if any of them are troublemakers.

And, what about members who have signed up for Groups.IO that are NOT
Yahoo Groups members? I assume their memberships will remain as is.

Correct.

Shal


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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 09:45 am, Patty Sliney wrote:

I suspect I may do a combination of suggestions - resize and possibly delete the very oldest.

If you have time, you could grab a few of the photos to see which of the available settings would work best for your group.? On ours, 312x312 is fine since we really don't need much detail.? As a torture test, I uploaded a 10MB photo and it was reduced to 172KB.? Most end up around 50-100KB.? If it's an art group, you may not want to reduce them though.

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Yes, I received the notice and I thought it said that messages had been moved.? But I am not going to dwell on it as messages for this group isn't important as it is a quick siggy tagging group and all are outdated anyway. ? It was just something I brought up to consider if I decided to move my other groups. ? Thanks, Ilene ? ? ? ?

Hi?

I added it to the wiki. Moderators, please edit if necessary!
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm

Frances

Thanks Shal and Dano.? I suspect I may do a combination of suggestions - resize and possibly delete the very oldest.? Need to keep room for new photos.? My largest group's Photos section alone is 2 GB's.?

Second question:? I think I have a very small handful of of Yahoo Groups list members who went over and signed up for our inactive, placeholder Groups.IO mirror group.? Will that pose an issue when we transfer from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO?? If so, I can try to unsubscribe them prior to the transfer.? And, what about members who have signed up for Groups.IO that are NOT Yahoo Groups members?? I assume their memberships will remain as is.?

Patty Sliney

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Shal thanks. That is a good idea to change the subject every day. ? This is usually sent by email and not from the home page. This way the topic would stay separate. ? Anita

Our group was transferred on June 1st & upgraded to the annual Premium subscription status. Transfer was amazingly smooth and quick and happened the 2nd day after our transfer request. I'm pleased that we chose the Premum subcription option since the extra features it offers are proving a huge timesaver dealing with the variously unsubscribed members that we were warned would happen.

Now my question: One of our moderators says he cannot see the Direct Add button under the Admin button when expanded. All he says he can see are the following four: Pending / Members / Subgroups / Activity

He is set as a Moderator.

So... Which of the blue button(s) under his Moderator Permissions must be checked to give him 'Direct Add' and 'Invite' permissions?

All his MODERATOR PERMISSIONS ARE checked EXCEPT these five:
Manage Subgroups
Add or Modify Integrations
Modify Group Settings
Billing
Set Moderator Privileges

Which of the five above permission options will give him the needed permissions for 'Direct Add' and 'Invite' when selected?

I'm learning as I go so bear with me.

TIA

Paul M.
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And on the same note: ?The? more groups that join IO, it will free up server space on the?Y?groups and they will function better. Just my opinion. Ilene? ? ? ? ?

If you received the automated notice that your invitation was received, all you can do is wait for your turn.? The worse YG! gets, the more groups that try to transfer.? We don't know for sure what the wait time is, but it has been as short as 1 day and as long as 3 weeks.? Members here are other site users and as far as we know, no one from groups.io management monitors the group.

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I am in the process of transferring one of my Yahoo groups to Groups.io.? I did the Invite to "[email protected]".? The directions say it could take a couple days for the acceptance and e-mail request to be monitor, but after about four days and hearing nothing, I tried again.? It's been another two days and still nothing.? Is there a way to get in touch with whoever is supposed to handle that on Groups.io's end so I can get it moving along?

In case they happen to see this message, the group is named "TreadleOn Pony Express".

Thank you.

Sandra Bejster