This is a demo google sites wiki I set up for cohousing communities to demonstrate how to keep track of facilities.
It is attractive as well as being easy to use. New pages appear automatically in the sidebar ¡ª when you create a new page, you enter the title, choose a template, and have a clear list of levels of pages to choose a level. You can also change the URL to use a name shorter than the name of the page.
The ability to modify colors, choose different themes. A page that lists attachments. The formatting palette shows automatically when you are editing a page or entering content in the first page. If you want to code, you can. You can also edit the html if a page is acting strangely.
I can¡¯t tell you how easy this is for totally inexperienced people to use.
Essential problem is finding it. Google¡¯s menu is getting so huge and is divided into so many levels that people have to have the Url to find it.
Sharon
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Question on Message Formatting
So we're trying to migrate from Yahoo Groups and I was wondering if there's a setting where a Replay to a message shows up as a new message (as it does in Yahoo Groups). This would be more beneficial for our group structure instead of the chain/thread of messages with the same title.
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Re: How to make payments from a small non-profit
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Thanks for the clarification. I did find out we don¡¯t even have a debit card so I need to ask the treasurer if that¡¯s a possibility.
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Re: Transfer group into another group's subgroup?
Transfer the messages should not be a problem but subgroup members must be also a main group member.
I think that there isn't any option for a member; to get a membership for a subgroup without a main group membership.
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On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:02 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: The reason I like hashtags is that the topic is clear¡ªits like a
standardized key word. While I agree, I'm not sure how that's relevant to your original question about Groups.io's directory listings.
This was in relation to the subject lines ¡ª hashtags are standard so they are more likely to catch all the messages on that topic ¡ª if people use them. I forget them, but I recognize their value. Subject lines are very undependable. My real interest, I think, is seeing the number of messages more than number of topics. Not sure why that is relevant in a list 20 years old. Sharon
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On Apr 8, 2018, at 11:35 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
It is safe to say that the Y!Group should invite the transfer agent; because the instructions say so. What I'm not certain of is what happens in the event that a group reaches the head of the queue, or some timeout, without the transfer agent receiving the invitation.
I¡¯ve not heard of an invitation message not being sent. When you fill out the transfer page, it won¡¯t take unless the transfer agent is a member and a moderator. You click the button and nothing happens. On the transfer form page there is a drop down menu that shows current transfers. It will list all the transferring groups with status ¡ª completed, pending (or some such word), and needs attention. Needs attention is likely to be make transfer agent moderator. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines, Washington DC "Give someone a book, they'll read for a day. Teach someone to write a book and they will spend a life-time mired in paralyzing self doubt."
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I also changed the banner image to a redirect containing the new URL. It wasn't big and red, but it really seemed to mitigate problems.
After doing that and putting the group(s) on moderation, I had ONE person post to the Y!Gs.
Speaking of which, I shut down our two Y!Gs yesterday. We are "all in" with GIO now.
Bruce
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Re: Adding about 3100 members
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 07:17 pm, Desid¨¦rio Murcho wrote:
My question though is this: in the paid plan we may directly add members. However, can I add those 3100 subscribers I already have? Or is it too much??
There are other groups here that are as big or bigger. I say set up your group, pay the ten bucks, and go for it! Bruce
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Re: Transfer group into another group's subgroup?
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Re: Transfer group into another group's subgroup?
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Shal, thanks for fleshing out what happened during that week. As I explained, I was trying to help some other groups get moved, and at that time the invitation process was simply not working, even if an invitation was also sent to another address at the same time. I had contacted Mark directly and we determined that the original way of getting 'transfer' onto those Yahoo groups wasn't working and I asked him if the old request membership email might work. He tried it and it did indeed get around the problem of getting 'transfer' onto those groups. It simply became another item in his bag of tools to get into Yahoo.
I think it's odd, given the constantly evolving situation of Yahoo, that some think it's necessary to pin Mark down as to which method he uses. I suspect the situation is changeable enough that he uses whatever means seems to work at the moment. At the risk of sounding heretical, it seems akin to asking God to explain creation. We really can only give Mark all the pieces we have and let him use his skill to make the process happen. If he needs something else, he's not hesitant to reach out to the owner.
Dan
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----- Original Message ----- Bruce, Hmmm...both the Yahoo group transfer instructions and the GMF wiki
still state that you have to manually send the transfer agent an
invitation. When the Form submission was first created there was a brief time (maybe less than a day) when the instructions did not mention inviting the transfer agent, but waiting to approve the transfer agent if needed ... and depending on group settings this might not even be possible. ... and then Mark ran into the "Invitation only" type of group. And so the instructions changed again to require an invitation. Bottom item: Someone needs to confirm the actual process so the documentation can
be kept current. I'm not sure we know, fully. It is safe to say that the Y!Group should invite the transfer agent; because the instructions say so. What I'm not certain of is what happens in the event that a group reaches the head of the queue, or some timeout, without the transfer agent receiving the invitation. Maybe Mark will then attempt to subscribe to the group. That is, it may be belts-and-suspenders, but I don't know that for certain. Of course if neither happens then the process stalls and it is up to Mark and/or the Y!group admins to notice and attempt to get it back on track somehow. Shal
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Transfer group into another group's subgroup?
I have two groups and want to "lump" where one is a subgroup of another.? Advantages: able to manage subscribers easily in subgroups.? And without any loss of messages, files, etc.? Is this possible for one of the Groups.io managers?? I don't think group owners have that power, right?
Derek
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Adding about 3100 members
Dear all,
I run an education website (in Portuguese), and so far I have been using TinyLetter to send updates and notices to my readers. I am fast approaching the max number of members, though, and I am shopping around for alternatives. That is when I found . Great work indeed!?
I have set a group for testing purposes and I already see a hurdle: the automatic message sent when someone subscribes by email cannot be changed and is sent in English. Well, maybe I can get around that.?
My question though is this: in the paid plan we may directly add members. However, can I add those 3100 subscribers I already have? Or is it too much??
Thanks in advance for your help!
Best, Desi
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Re: How to make payments from a small non-profit
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I've always used my debit card, from the group transfer forward. Groups.io just sees it as a credit card. If for some reason the monthly transfer doesn't go through, you get a warning message from groups.io and a chance to rectify the situation before anything dire happens.
Dano
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Currently I pay with a personal credit card for our small non-profits page. (We are a quilt group with 112 members.). I¡¯d like to switch this to our treasurer but the group does not have a credit card. Can we do an ach payment from our checking account? Can we use a debit card tied to that checking account?
What do others do in this situation?
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Normally, a good idea, but this is a private, by invitation, group of the board members of a small organization (~80 members), and won¡¯t have random interest. I have a friend that will probably be moving a more open group soon. I¡¯ll pass on the idea. ? Randy Thomson ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Bellizzi
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Are Yahoo Group Transfers No Longer Accepted #transfer #yahoo ? Oh yes, one other thing,? If it's possible someone might wish to join our group and run across your Yahoo shell, it would be helpful to do what I did for our very large and active group.
You can witness it at?
Actually our header was a big red box but it seems yahoo finally got tired of it.
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Bob Bellizzi The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation
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Well, heck. I saw that option, but it wasn¡¯t when I needed it, so I forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder. Hmm. Take me to the middle¡ not a bad idea J Nah, I can divide by two. ? Randy Thomson ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Bellizzi
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Are Yahoo Group Transfers No Longer Accepted #transfer #yahoo ? Good job, Randy,
Now, for the "oldest to newest & vice versa,k; Please, on the computer screen, when in Messages mode, look at the upper right portion.
You will see a Date followed by a "down" or "up" caret.
Clicking the caret reverses the order of the messages in the display.
When you get old, (you're only 78 & I'm almost 87) you may lose your fear of moving your mouse around and, when you get an indication that there is something live under your mouse, you will, in spite of fear, click the mouse to see what happens.? What you can find with this little trick is amazing.
BTW I doubt if Mark would give you a "take me to the middle" action, though.
Bob Bellizzi
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Bob Bellizzi The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation
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Re: How to make payments from a small non-profit
#Discussion
My understanding (generally) is that as far as the payments system is concerned, there is no great difference (except over the amount of service charge/commission) between debit and credit cards: it is only the paying card issuer which is really bothered, as to how it gets the money from the actual payer.
Jeremy
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Re: Cross posting to other lists
Having played around a bit, this is my take on things.
The perception that groups.io is 'passing through' e-mails sent to a group via it is I think something of an over simplification. It seems to me that when groups.io receives such an e-mail, or has 'message to group' posted through the web interface, after moderation, etc., it adds it the group message archive and, for each member, depending on their settings (including whether they want their own messages) either sends them a 'new' (from groups.io) e-mail (with a new msg id, what was in the original e-mail, with extra/changed footer); adds the message to their digest or summary; or just lets them read it in the archive.
If an e-mail has multiple addressees, then a recipient of the groups.io-sent e-mail version will see the group (only) in the 'To:' field, and any CCs as such: if the Group was itself a cc, then it will appear in both the To (without any of the addresses in the original To: list) and CC fields. In other words an e-mail sent To: Group1 and A, CC: Group2 and B will arrive from Group2 as To: Group2, CC Group2 and B. That from Group1 will not mention A; only A and B will see all four addressees.?
A 'reply' in e-mail will default to whatever the group 'reply-to' (I think there may be some logic to remove specific 'sender' if they will get it as part of group) setting is (this can be changed), and 'reply-all' will also include the CC list. When using groups.io reply facility the only options are (I think) 'group' and 'sender'.?
I would agree there is a case for adding Show and Reply To 'All Recipients' options.
HTH,
Jeremy?
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On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 02:39 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
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Shal
Thanks Shal, and Robert S also commented but privately. I am likely one of very few who remembers "Kilroy was here" People know where I've been. I expected Yahoo to kill it but they didn't which, again, proves we were not considered valuable assets. FYI, here's the html for "The group has moved" red outlined section. The banner was constructed as I remember with Photoshop
<table id="ygrps-yiv-1673158187ygrps-yiv-1569463225ygrps-yiv-407971307ygrps-yiv-1729121353ygrps-yiv-598854233Table2" border="5" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" width="100%" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);border-left-color:rgb(255,0,0);border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(255,0,0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(255,0,0);border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(255,0,0);border-bottom-style:solid;height:320px;"
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? ? ? <p><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0);"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', Times, Serif;font-size:12pt;">THIS GROUP HAS MOVED TO A NEW PLATFORM<br>We invite you to come and join us there. Go to <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.cornealdystrophyfoundation.org/join-fuchs-friends">http://www.cornealdystrophyfoundation.org/join-fuchs-friends</a> and fill out the form. We will review your application and respond with membership information.</span></span></p>
? ? ? <p style="margin-bottom:0px;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', Times, Serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(255,0,0);">All current members and all messages have been moved to the new platform. If you are already a member, go to the new group website at:http://www.groups.io/g/fuchsfriends <br>To Contact the group owners? email them at [email protected]<br>To Send messages to the message board at [email protected]<br>To log into the new site, use your current yahoo id log in with no password.<br>You will be sent an email with a link that allows you to change your profile and set a password<br>You can change both your id (email address) and password once you get into groups.io.<br><br>All of the messages from this yahoo group are available at the new site.</span></p> ? ? </td>
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</table>? -- Bob Bellizzi
The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation
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Shal, ? I know this isn¡¯t a help desk you Yahoo, but yes, definitely an attention grabbing "we've moved" sign. How do you create that big red gradient banner for title, and the box around the group description? ? TIA, Bob S ? ?
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