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Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

Linda
 

Hi Anita,

When you are on the Members list page, click on the down arrow at the right of the Members button at the top of the list.? Select Bouncing and the list below will switch to bouncing members only.?

Bouncing members (B) in Blue are still being probed by the system.? When the B is Red, the system has given up trying. If you want to see the bounce history, click on a bouncing member's email address, then click on the Email Delivery History button.

Hope that helps,
Linda
https://1a-travelzine.groups.io/g/ZINE


Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

 

This is potentially a new sub-topic of this bouncing members thread. I have three concerns/questions listed below.

I have three very small groups that I use as project focus groups for an organization I belong to. A member just forwarded a notification message she just received today that her address was bouncing and she would be removed from [list of groups] if she did not unbounce her account. She is an ultra-conscientious security minded person and does NOT click on links without making sure they are valid.

So, first I went to my management area and looked at the members' list. I could not see her listed anywhere. I couldn't spot another tab it might be under; there was no marking anywhere. Checked the other two lists, same thing.

So, I went back to her forwarded message and clicked the link to UNBOUNCE to see what happened. Voila. I got a message that "my address" was now unbounced. When I clicked on my groups, it brought up the list of the member's lists with me logged in as her!?

I finally had to log out and log back in as me. When I checked the admin for my groups, she was back on all groups.

  1. What did I miss? Are bouncing members displayed somewhere else that I just didn't find?
  2. The other concerning thing is the number of messages that the member missed. Her last message received was #23. She missed messages 24 through 49 over a 14-day period and I had no idea.?
  3. Is there a place to configure admin notifications so that I can be notified when a member is bouncing??

I do most of my emailing from either my email client Outlook or from Gmail. I don't like having to use the web interface to keep track of things.?

Would appreciate any sage advice!

Anita C


Re: anyone know if Groups.io messages to aol members tend to go into spam a lot?

J_Olivia Catlady
 

Thanks for the bouncing tip. Not sure what you mean by 'between aol users.' I'm not an aol user. Only the member is. Nothing in spam...
J

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

J,

I'm curious if you've checked your spam folder to see if the replies got stuck there? Probably not, but can't hurt to check. I've also noticed that AOL addresses have been bouncing off and on for the last few days. I don't think it would apply between AOL users though. Sometimes a "554 mtaig-mbb04.mx.aol.com ESMTP not accepting connections" error, sometimes a "dial tcp4: lookup mailin-02.mx.aol.com on 74.207.241.5:53: dial udp 74.207.241.5:53: i/o timeout" error, and sometimes (especially most recently) a "521 5.2.1 : (CON:B1) error (IP blocked). Not sure what's going on there.

Duane



Re: anyone know if Groups.io messages to aol members tend to go into spam a lot?

Steph Mathews
 

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Hi there.? I would try your regular address.? Steph

From: J_catlady
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 9:25 PM
Subject: [GMF] anyone know if Groups.io messages to aol members tend to go into spam a lot?

I have a group member who has not responded to several messages from the owner address. I noticed today that her email is aol. I recall a problem with those emails awhile back. Is this a known thing? Maybe I should send her an email from my regular address.?

J


Re: anyone know if Groups.io messages to aol members tend to go into spam a lot?

 

J,

I'm curious if you've checked your spam folder to see if the replies got stuck there? Probably not, but can't hurt to check. I've also noticed that AOL addresses have been bouncing off and on for the last few days. I don't think it would apply between AOL users though. Sometimes a "554 mtaig-mbb04.mx.aol.com ESMTP not accepting connections" error, sometimes a "dial tcp4: lookup mailin-02.mx.aol.com on 74.207.241.5:53: dial udp 74.207.241.5:53: i/o timeout" error, and sometimes (especially most recently) a "521 5.2.1 : (CON:B1) error (IP blocked). Not sure what's going on there.

Duane


Re: anyone know if Groups.io messages to aol members tend to go into spam a lot?

J_catlady
 

Interesting. I finally sent the member a personal email, asking her to check her spam file. She said that she HAD received all of the messages from the owner address, and had answered and returned the questionnaire as required and that it was in her "sent" folder. However, we did not receive it. A similar thing happened recently with someone who applied using an att email address. I will contact that person as well, now. If it happens a third time I will let Mark know.

I am a moderator on AOL as is the Owner of our group

Do you mean that you use aol email for Groups.io?

Thanks.

J


Re: anyone know if Groups.io messages to aol members tend to go into spam a lot?

 

I am a moderator on AOL as is the Owner of our group. ?While we did have a bit of a problem back in May, we haven't encountered any difficulty with the receipt of messages since then.

Jean

#OrlandoStrong


anyone know if Groups.io messages to aol members tend to go into spam a lot?

J_catlady
 

I have a group member who has not responded to several messages from the owner address. I noticed today that her email is aol. I recall a problem with those emails awhile back. Is this a known thing? Maybe I should send her an email from my regular address.?

J


Re: Editing the subject of a message

 

Thanks, Duane.

~~ Stephanie


Re: Editing the subject of a message

 

Thanks, J.

Since I started the group I've always had it set on Messages View. I just switched to Topic View for the first time and noticed the menu options including the Edit Subject. Question answered.

~~ Stephanie


Re: Editing the subject of a message

 

Once you're in the Topic, there will be an Edit Thread button at the top to make the changes (moderators only).

Duane


Re: Editing the subject of a message

J_catlady
 

The subject or title is attached to a thread (now called "topic"), rather than an individual message. As a moderator, you can edit a thread (topic), including its title.

J


Editing the subject of a message

 

Can that be done?? Today was the first occasion I wished to fix a mistake I made, which I didn't catch before I approved it, in the subject of a message. I can't do it with Yahoo. I can do it with Google. I've edited the text of Groups.io messages before, but it looked to me today like I can't edit the subject. Is that right?

~~ Stephanie


Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

 

J,

?Thanks. I already have a test group that I've been using; I just don't
?remember how to unconfirm an email address. Do you happen to have that
?link Mark provided a long time ago to unconfirm?

Sure:
" - I created a new page to unconfirm your account, if you wish. It's at
? /unconfirm and it's not linked to anywhere on the site."
Mark
/g/beta/message/7190

If you don't need to actually confirm the address it might be easier to just log out of Groups.io (or open a browser without an active login) and enter a nonsense email address (use @ example.com or otherwise be certain that it couldn't accidently belong to someone).

I think that is what I did to create at least one of the NC members in my test group (I used my company's domain, where I knew the fake email address did not exist). That should work, unless Mark has since then implemented countermeasures against bounced confirmation emails.

Shal


Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

J_catlady
 

Shal,

Thanks. I already have a test group that I've been using; I just don't remember how to unconfirm an email address. Do you happen to have that link Mark provided a long time ago to unconfirm?

J



Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

 

J,

I'm sure I've never seen an NC member in my group's members list, but
maybe there's a difference with restricted groups?
If you'd like to examine these first-hand without messing around in a "real" group you're welcome to join my test group.


I don't see a connection to the group's membership being restricted or not. My test group is currently not Restricted, but it might have been earlier. You could switch it back and forth to see if you can create new NC entries under each condition.

Shal


Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

J_catlady
 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 04:22 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Just an opinion and an observation, in case you were suggesting that someone (me) with bouncing members should report it to Mark.

No problem. I was suggesting that *someone* mention this to him as an issue, as trivial as it may be. It seems to be causing ocnfusion and the change seems to have been recent.

I'm sure I've never seen an NC member in my group's members list, but maybe there's a difference with restricted groups?

J


Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

 

J,

Never said or implied it was a bug or high on the priorities.
Sorry, I didn't mean my comment to be contentious. Just an opinion and an observation, in case you were suggesting that someone (me) with bouncing members should report it to Mark. I could have worded that better.

Are you sure about that?
Yup.

My test group has only 26 in the Members list, including two NC, plus one in the Bouncing list -- the group's home page says "27 Members".

A manual count of the Members list says that list total is right (as expected).

Shal


Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?

J_catlady
 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 01:44 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
I think this should be reported to Mark.
Not very high on my list of things that need attention. I don't think I see anything here that I would classify as a bug, but there are inconsistencies and maybe those merit suggestions on beta.

Never said or implied it was a bug or high on the priorities. I think there are some abnormalities (weirdnesses? inconsistencies? ambiguities? confusion?) in the way this is being done. That's all. And as such, I think it should be mentioned to him.

?members with "NC" status ... are shown on the main Members list. They also are included in the home page (and directory) total membership.

Are you sure about that? I'm almost certain they're not counted, which seems correct since they're not technically (or any other way) members of the group yet.

I was unaware of the former Yahoo controversy.

J


Following in mobile interface

 

I see that I can "follow" in my email in my iPhone ?but sometimes I want to see where a thread is going before I decide to follow a topic ?but on the mobile interface I don't seem to be able to follow from the group site ??

I had to go back to my email to follow the thread ?

Did I just miss this?

Frances