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Re: What's going on here?

 

Maybe in North America, but until the internet became widespread I knew it only
as a sharp sign in music notation. The standard abbreviation for number this
side of the pond was, and still is "no."

Jim Fisher

On 3 Mar 2018 at 9:05, Don wrote:

"Just a comment regarding messages with hashtags."

Someday people will not know how to use the Hash sign as it was universally
intended to be used, at least the way it was used in North America and other
parts of the world.

Don
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Re: Continuity of IO

 

All,

Bruce wrote:
Mark IS groups.io. Perhaps he will weigh into this discussion and let
us know what his continuity plans are, but I doubt it.
Particularly unlikely in that Mark is not a member of this group.

The essential questions Stan is asking can't be answered by any of us "on the outside" with anything other than speculation and hopes.

That said, Mark did touch upon these issues (long ago) publicly in beta and in more detail privately to some who had asked. But that was some years ago and some things have changed quite a bit (like the number of groups and users at Groups.io). So maybe it is time for someone to ask Mark directly.

But because he's not a member you can't do that here.

But we've strayed pretty far from the subject line, haven't we?
Yes, yes we have.

So lets get on with our mission of helping each other be better moderators.

Shal
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Re: do invitations expire?

 

" How many tries do you make before giving up?"

One try.

Don
Re: Continuity of IO

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I totally agree with both Doug and Bruce

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On Mar 3, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:



I think you answered your own question. This is not a government operation...Mark IS . Perhaps he will weigh into this discussion and let us know what his continuity plans are, but I doubt it. Perhaps he will submit to a physical exam at the physician of our choice and undergo a psychological evaluation to show he isn't suicidal for the benefit of our community, but I doubt that will happen, either.
rsistent problem, especially if those in the GIO community have the good sense to complain about it to the right people.

How do I make message or file repeat

 

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I would like to make a message that just goes out to new subscribers to the group when they join.? Another one as a mid-month reminder of projects and such.

Is there a way to do that and have them send automatically when a member joins or on a certain set day of the month??

Lyn
Re: Continuity of IO

 

" This is an important one to me, but I am very hesitant to bring it over and delete the Yahoo group because there never has been any answer to this one member's question of whether there are any contingency plans to keep IO going."

Have you ever got an answer to that same question from Yahoo?

Don
Re: Continuity of IO

 

>> I would feel better if I knew more about the support for IO.

I think you answered your own question. This is not a government operation...Mark IS groups.io. Perhaps he will weigh into this discussion and let us know what his continuity plans are, but I doubt it. Perhaps he will submit to a physical exam at the physician of our choice and undergo a psychological evaluation to show he isn't suicidal for the benefit of our community, but I doubt that will happen, either.

So the ball is in [each of our's] court, and we have this choice:

-- One system that's getting ongoing upgrades but has a mildly uncertain future (GIO).
-- Another that's already sporadically functional [at best] and providing no user support at all (Y!G).
-- A third that each group owner has to kludge together himself with hyperlinks and shared drives and such (Google).
-- Facebook? Eech.

I'm here, so I guess I made my choice. If continuity is someone else's primary concern then perhaps they should go in another direction.

But we've strayed pretty far from the subject line, haven't we? Back on-topic, the Norton/AVG problem was a fluke. It might come back, but I suspect it won't be a persistent problem, especially if those in the GIO community have the good sense to complain about it to the right people.

Bruce
Re: Continuity of IO

 

Stan this is in no way comparable to a state government.

If you feel so insecure about Groups.io, then you either need to stay at Yahoo or go elsewhere.

I can pretty much guarantee at some point Yahoo is going to crash and burn.? If you want an example, Yahoo photos and message posting was out 3 days last week.? Groups.io was down for only 2 hours.? Mark does a far superior job to support and meeting owners expectations than does all the many people Yahoo has on staff.?

As for me and my group, we are delighted at the support that Mark provides as well as listening to and reacting to owners requests.

Doug



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 9:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Problem with Norton
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It was said:
It is true that one never gets such a response from Yahoo. However, a
staff of only one person developing the IO system does concern me.
Someone in this group asked if there were any contingency plans if this
person should be unable to carry out the tasks he is doing now. There
never was an answer.? ....


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Re: Continuity of IO

J_Catlady
 

Zero.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Drew AF2Z <pubx1@...> wrote:
How many people are developing and running the essential functions at Yahoo?

Drew


On 03/03/18 11:25, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
> Is it really just one
person that develops and runs the essential functions of the IO system?
Stan
Re: Photo of a Member

 

I just discovered I had not clicked on 'Update Account Profile.' When I did that, it worked.
Stan

On 3/3/2018 2:28 PM, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
Duane,
I clicked on Account, then Identity. The image of Arnold was still there. I clicked on Remove. It disappeared but then when I go back out of the page and go back into Identity it reappears. What am I doing wrong?
Stan


On 3/3/2018 2:10 PM, Duane wrote:
You have an Identity for your Account (site-wide) and each group. The way I understand it is if you Edit the one for the site, it will 'trickle down' unless you've changed one of the group identities from it's default (as noted at the top of the Identity page.)

Duane
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Re: Photo of a Member

 

Duane,
I clicked on Account, then Identity. The image of Arnold was still there. I clicked on Remove. It disappeared but then when I go back out of the page and go back into Identity it reappears. What am I doing wrong?
Stan

On 3/3/2018 2:10 PM, Duane wrote:
You have an Identity for your Account (site-wide) and each group. The way I understand it is if you Edit the one for the site, it will 'trickle down' unless you've changed one of the group identities from it's default (as noted at the top of the Identity page.)

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Re: Continuity of IO

 

How many people are developing and running the essential functions at Yahoo?

Drew

On 03/03/18 11:25, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
Is it really just one
person that develops and runs the essential functions of the IO system?
Stan
Re: do invitations expire?

J_Catlady
 

2 weeks

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:
? ?I seem to recall that in Yahoo groups the invitations expired after some amount of time (30 days?).? Do invitations for Groups.io groups expire after a particular amount of time or are they good until canceled?? I suspect that most invitations that aren't responded to within a day or so can be assumed to be either lost or deleted, but I have had people respond to an invitation as long as 28 days after it was sent.

? ?Do you resend invitations after they haven't be responded to for a certain amount of time?? If so what time period do you think is appropriate?? It seems that if there is no response after a few attempts you should just forget about that person.? How many tries do you make before giving up?

Jonathan
do invitations expire?

 

I seem to recall that in Yahoo groups the invitations expired after some amount of time (30 days?). Do invitations for Groups.io groups expire after a particular amount of time or are they good until canceled? I suspect that most invitations that aren't responded to within a day or so can be assumed to be either lost or deleted, but I have had people respond to an invitation as long as 28 days after it was sent.

Do you resend invitations after they haven't be responded to for a certain amount of time? If so what time period do you think is appropriate? It seems that if there is no response after a few attempts you should just forget about that person. How many tries do you make before giving up?

Jonathan
Re: Photo of a Member

 

You have an Identity for your Account (site-wide) and each group.? The way I understand it is if you Edit the one for the site, it will 'trickle down' unless you've changed one of the group identities from it's default (as noted at the top of the Identity page.)

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Re: Continuity of IO

 

Mark has said on beta that he has backup in place in case something happens to him.? I can't find it at the moment and he hasn't said any more than that that I'm aware of.? Everything else is up to him.

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Re: Photo of a Member

 

Thanks. However, I followed what you did, and when I click on Identity this blasted image of Arnold is still there. I removed it, again. Maybe it will be permanent since I got to it in a different way, the one you mentioned.
Stan

On 3/3/2018 1:40 PM, Frances wrote:
Hi Stan,

I just tested this and it looked okay to me.
I changed my photo for my test group (a pretty flower!)
I sent a test message and looked online. Fine.
I sent a test message to my moderator¡¯s subgroup for the travel sight. It maintained the photo I had already in place - actually me, not a flower.

I changed the photo of myself this way:
Online in my group, clicked on my name (top right).
Clicked on Account.
Clicked on Identity.
Use the Edit button to change your picture for the group you wish to change.
Attach your photo and update group.

Frances
Re: Using Activity log

 

I checked my groups. I can see members changing email addresses, adding alias email addresses, unsubscribing via the web (left), and more. This is through the Member Activity tab in Admin, Activity. There is a search box too.

I am assuming that the member wishes to unsubscribe from your group.?
If it is to stop email but keep being subscribed to the group, your member should use Change Your Subscription command in the email footer.?
I changed a member status in my test group (but online) - and I could see that in the Moderator Activity tab.
Hope this helps!

I tried to see what the member would get when they unsubscribe via email. I was brought to the group - it "knew" me already so I didn't log in. There were several options including changing frequency of emails.

Frances
Re: Photo of a Member

 

Hi Stan,

I just tested this and it looked okay to me.
I changed my photo for my test group (a pretty flower!)
I sent a test message and looked online. Fine.
I sent a test message to my moderator¡¯s subgroup for the travel sight. It maintained the photo I had already in place - actually me, not a flower.

I changed the photo of myself this way:
Online in my group, clicked on my name (top right).
Clicked on Account.
Clicked on Identity.
Use the Edit button to change your picture for the group you wish to change.
Attach your photo and update group.

Frances
Re: Free vs. Pricing

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On Mar 3, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Paul Konanz <pkonanz@...> wrote:

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Sorry about the basic question but how do I find my groups¡¯ screen listing whether they are free or charged? I just want to double-check I set them up correctly.

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