Not yet.? It's on the TODO list, as are many other improvements.?

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Thanks Shal

I guess it's not a problem.? I just thought it would be cleaner and neater not to have the messages there.? I'm kind of a perfectionist and don't like clutter ...lol
As for the Hashtags I just went right past that because I don't have a clue about those.

Where are the attachments stored because I don't need those either.? :)

Thanks for answering my question.??

Loopy C.

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FWIW, our members have always referred to our neighborhood Yahoo Group as "the listserv". I'm guessing it's a holdover from back in the day when it actually WAS a listserv. And it would normally annoy me, except that's how 99% of our members use it, anyway. Most never login. They just do everything over email. That Groups.io lets them continue doing that ensures the "listserv" will live on. ;-)

But it sounded like your users would actually use it more of a collaboration site, so I didn't mention it before.

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Or even better, replace “his (or her)” with “their”.

Don,

The image was done by another person, and they told how they did it.
They "composed message with Rich Text Editor function. Drag/dropped
photo into message editor."

If I recall correctly, image drag-and-drop to the RTE only worked if the image was hosted somewhere, and the result was an "http" type of image. So that likely answers the mystery: it wasn't an attachment, properly speaking.

Shal


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I have not joined group_help because the moderators have refused, on some kind of principle, to make a simple change to their group description - namely, removal of the parentheses in this sentence of their group description:

It is intended that any member who has an answer or comment will voice his (or her) response, rather than having any one authority source, this is to be more of a discussion group than some of the other help groups.

Not only would removing the parens eliminate the unfortunate (if unintentional) casting of women as an afterthought, but it would also go a long way towards improving the already suspect grammatical construction of the sentence.

C'mon, guys. Removing a set of parens. Why is that so hard?

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I suspect the nature of my problem still isn't well understood to everyone. That's on me.

Yes, I am responsible for doing the migration from Y@h00. In addition to doing this migration, I am the club webmaster, and I also edit our newsletter. It keeps me out of mischief. :-)

On our web site, and in that publication, there are several boilerplate references to the "Y@h00 Group." I am struggling to come up with a succinct and unambiguous replacement for this two-word phrase. The best suggestion I've heard so far is to call it our "GIO group."?

Thanks again,
Bruce

RFS,

I assumed that as long as the emails were a match, it didn't matter
which came first, the user records or the messages.

I'm not absolutely sure about that. I recall Mark mentioning that in beta to someone asking about copying content first, and then members later. But possibly he's improved his mechanisms to allow that case since then.

Shal


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Ivar,

As an option, is it possible to make the calendar starting with
Monday, not Sunday as it usual in parts of Europe?

Not that I know of. It has been asked in the beta group, you could add to that suggestion.

I would also appreciate an option with the date as DDMMYYYY, and the
clock with 24 hours.

These have been mentioned there recently, and the ISO-8601 format YYYY-MM-DD.

Shal


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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 05:18 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

Quite the contrary. I think for proper linkage you need the member records copied in first.

Thanks, Shal.

I was merely worried that those users who were being forced to keep Yahoo email addresses would change theirs as soon as they got access to Groups.io, preventing message linking later.

But it sounds like there's another wrinkle I hadn't anticipated. I assumed that as long as the emails were a match, it didn't matter which came first, the user records or the messages.

Oh well, we'll probably just move over and not care so much when the YG messages show up later unlinked. Our group is very informal and having the old messages at all is gravy.

Cheers, -rfs

RFS,

If I invite all our users at their YG email addresses, but they opt to
change them /before/ a message transfer completes (there seems to be
an understandable backlog), have we lost any ability to map them to
their old messages?

Yes, I believe so.

Is my only option to not invite folks until after the message transfer
completes ...

Quite the contrary. I think for proper linkage you need the member records copied in first.

(or just opt for a user+message transfer)?

That's the way to do it. Plus any other content (except attachments) will be copied in by default.

Shal


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Loopy,

Deleting messages seems to be an issue. You can click on the little
arrow and get the option to delete that one message only.
Is it possible to have the option to 'check-all' and hit a delete
button? It's very time consuming doing one at a time.

There isn't. There's a To-Do item about bulk operations on message threads, but I'm not sure if Deletion is one of the contemplated operations.

All these messages go to each member so I see
no need to keep them after a week or so.

In most email list services there's a central store of all the prior message. Sometimes called an archive, the usual intent is to have a quasi-permanent repository of the past messages. So one option for you is to simply ignore the old messages, as they aren't counted against any quota for your group.

If you feel that the messages are ephemeral and should be deleted there is a "Topic Duration" hashtag option that will let you set a limit after which the topic is automatically deleted. Two problems with that for your purpose:

o It applies to whole topics, not individual messages.
o You have to get the hashtag onto every topic.

You can go in and edit each new topic to add the hashtag. I don't know what happens if you edit an old topic and add a hashtag with a limit, maybe nothing if the topic is already older than the specified limit.

Shal


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As I mentioned, an individual in my yahoo discussion group is against the move to IO because of having to learn a lot of stuff all over. One concern of his was searching the archives. I see in IO that the search can only be refined to messages and polls, and a time frame. I looked in yahoo and it has a better search engine. It allows a search not only by time, but by Subject, the presence or absence of a particular author, and the presence or absence of a particular phrase in the message. Are there any plans to make the search engine in IO more powerful?
Stan

Stan,

Also, I think one primary advantage of a group is that it relieves the
workload of the people running whatever it is, be it Yahoo or
groups.io.

That's precisely how GMF and Group_Help came to be recommended on the beta group's home page. Mark Fletcher, the founder and creator of Groups.io, runs the beta group himself and eventually got overwhelmed with routine usage questions.

Much earlier, a few days before Mark created the beta group, another gentleman created Group_Help and I created GMF, both with the mission of being user-to-user help and advice groups. So when Mark felt the traffic in the beta group was unmanageable he put the breaks on and announced that general questions should be directed to either of our two groups. And he added links to both to the beta home page.


So that's how we obtained quasi-official status. Mark has said in beta that if there are other user-to-user help groups that want that role he'd be happy to add them to the list.

Historically this has a precedent in Yahoo Groups as well. For many years four user-to-user help groups, EmailList-Managers, ListHelp, GroupManagersForum, and Yahoo_group_of_groups were listed in Yahoo's help pages as alternate places for help.

From what I have seen, there are only a few individuals who are really
answering most of the questions and they appear to be part of the
support team, although I could be wrong about being part of the
support team.

Neither I nor any of the other owners of GMF, nor to my knowledge any member of GMF, is affiliated with Groups.io in any way beyond being avid users of the service. That said, some of us have been active in beta@ since the beginning and are fairly well known by Mark.

So, the question is, can I contact the support team
([email protected] ?) directly with questions instead of going to GMF?

Ideally no. Mark intends for the support address to be for bugs and other service issues, not general questions. However you can post in Group_Help instead of GMF. Or others, if there are any I don't know about.

Shal


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I accidentally figured out how to download an album picture, but it wasn't as intuitive as I thought it would be. Maybe there is another way I don't know about. How are others downloading album pictures?

Don

I see no problem with 100% moderation if the moderators don't mind
doing the work of screening everything.

I'm sure Shal has filtered out some things that don't belong being
posted here.

In our groups, it's not what we want to do, spending our time
approving messages all day. We've had to put only one person on
moderation twice and they've avoided offensive posts since then.
Another we had to ban. Those were the exceptions, though, and the
"moderate after X number of posts works out well.

Shal wants this group to be a safe place, not one where there's any
venom in any posts against another member. Since this is the place
where people get help (unless they use the support email), it makes
sense that this needs to be a safe place with zero negative posts.

Donald


On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:41:10 -0800, "J_Catlady"
<j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I cannot understand, not will I ever be able to understand, why this group does not take advantage of the incredibly convenient and brilliant NuM feature. Shal himself may even have been a party to its original design (I no longer remember). I believe it would make life in this group more pleasant and more convenient for all concerned, including the moderators. My group uses it and it works wonderfully. In the odd case that an established member steps out of line, you can put them back on NuM again.

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --George Orwell

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 03:59 pm, Stan Gorodenski wrote:

there are only a few individuals who are really answering most of the questions and they appear to be part of the support team,

There's no support team. Everyone is a volunteer. And the support email address is mostly for bugs. There really is no other reasonable option besides this group, and that's the point I was making in my post just before this one.?
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