On Feb 2, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Barb,

Another basic question - what is a subgroup and what are pros/cons vs
having a totally separate group?

A subgroup is a group whose membership is a subset of a primary group. Moderatrice's example with 2 & 3 being subgroups of 1 is a good example of a situation where the membership naturally has that relationship.

An advantage of using a primary group and subgroups is that their email & web addresses have a common element that ties them together. See my example of how this works, here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/3483

Another advantage of using subgroups is that you (a primary group moderator) have more control over their membership: you don't need to invite people to join the subgroups, once they are members of your primary group you can simply add them to and remove them from subgroups at need. The subgroups also retain the ordinary join/request mechanisms, you can let primary group members join subgroups on their own, or require approval.

Another advantage is more control over the visibility of content. A subgroup can share its message archive with members of the primary group without sharing it with the public at large.

Note: every owner/mod of the primary group implicitly has owner/mod privileges in all the subgroups. This commonality of management can be either an advantage or disadvantage, depending on the needs of your communities.

Shal

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Transfer Invite Failed

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Yahoo!'s Files problem is back.? Files have gone totally missing on some groups, again.

On Feb 2, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Dave,

However this ease of access for messages has a downside; if a
Groups.IO log – in is not used for a period of time (what its duration
is not currently known) then the account will be suspended and the
associated email address and ID may be “recycled”.

The part about recycling the address is clearly absurd -- Groups.io can't recycle email addresses which it doesn't own. And unlike Yahoo Groups, there is no "house brand" email address forced upon you when you create a Groups.io account.

Another tell-tale is "ID" - in Groups.io your login ID is your email address, not some other thing.

Then there's all this FUD about having to set up a new account. 1) If you got into this mess by not ever logging in, why do you all of a sudden need a new account? 2) Even if you need one, establishing an account at Groups.io is about as easy typing your email address into a web page, so what's the problem?

This overall has the feel of some of the other scare tactic "warnings" I've read lately over in Y!GMF, YGOG, and ListHelp.

Shal

On Feb 2, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Moderatrice <moderatore@...> wrote:

Even if I am a newbie, I'd like to share my experience. Please, forgive my English, I am not a native speaker.

I have 4 separate groups on Yahoo revolving on the same topic and target audience.
1) the main group about literary translation
2) a group for moderators of main group
3) a group where members of the main group can discuss matters not strictly related to literary translation but nevertheless interesting for those who work with languages (the aim of this group is to keep the main group focused on literary translation and avoid off-topics)
4) a group set up as a newsletter for all those who are not interested in joining the main group, but would like to receive news and announcements on literary translation.

I think that subgroups are a great idea to manage multiple lists whose members overlap.
What I intend to do, once I have successfully relocated on Groups.io my main group, is to create two subgroups: one (with restricted membership and private archives) for the moderators and one for the 'expanded' discussion.
As for the newsletter, I'll have to create a separate group, because subscribers to the newsletter are not members of the main group.
The rule on Groups.io is that members of the subgroups must be members of the main group.

From what I could see (I created a small test group just to get the hang of Groups.io), subgroups can be managed just as you manage the main group, you can customize each subgroup settings according to your needs.

Hope this helps.
Marina

If I create a Sub Group. Will the members in my original group automatically be members in the Sub Group. Or do they have to join??

Thanks

Joe

I'm pretty sure that's incorrect, but you could contact [email protected] to make sure.? I think that as long as there's activity, whether email or web, the account is considered active.? The TOS only says, "You acknowledge that Groups.io reserves the right to terminate accounts that are inactive for an extended period of time." so it isn't perfectly clear.

Duane

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