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Re: Problem with Incredimail formatting (was: html)

 

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Shal thanks for your note. I use incredimail as my mail server and many on my list do also. Yes the side borders are the ones that are the problem with.
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If I go to my yahoo account or the messages here there is not a problem I believe.
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It is a big issue for me. The main issue is how members are getting deleted for letters going into spam. I cant have that because these members get upset and wont come back.
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Thanks for your help.
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Anita


reply options

 

I have my group set to reply only to the whole group. ?A new member who had been on "no mail" just switched to individual emails. When she tries to reply to one of the messages, it automatically goes only to the person who sent the message instead of to the whole group. ?I know she can click on "reply all", but then she has to delete the original sender's name and that's a lot of trouble. ?It has always been where when we hit "reply" it just goes back to the group. ?Any suggestions?

thanks,
Ann

Virus-free.


Re: Pinned posts

 

I'm looking for some way to create a section of selected posts. I'll try creating a #FEATURED hashtag though it's not quite the same thing. Anything I'm missing...?

Norman


On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Nancy in Renton <sday13@...> wrote:
As a work around I made a hashtag, red in color and named it ¡°Admin¡±. It works to draw attention. Plus, any questions on the topic I can say ¡°check the messages with the red hashtag¡±.



Re: member got deleted

 

Does anyone know if the service that starts with A and ends with L has a whitelist that would stop members from experiencing this problem?

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen R
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] member got deleted

The service that starts with A and ends with L (and has been known to
auto-delete posts that mention them, on the assumption that any mention
will not be favorable) is notorious for this behavior. Many list emails
are dumped into the spam folder, and, unless the sender marks them as
not spam, the post is reported. At that point, their rules require the
sending ISP to unsubscribe them.




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Ken Scanes
IndustrialRailwaySociety


Re: Move photos between albums #suggestion

 

YEp. I'm going to combine my two albums shortly, probably by delting the one with only a picture, and then loading a copy into the other album.

Barb



From: Nancy in Renton <sday13@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:22 PM
Subject: [GMF] #suggestion

I also miss the ability for a moderator to move photos between albums.
Nancy



Re: Reorder photos #suggestion

 

I thought Yvette said that can be done. Why don't you check with her tomorrow.

Barb



From: Nancy in Renton <sday13@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:21 PM
Subject: [GMF] Reorder photos #suggestion

I sure miss the option in Yahoo photos where we could ¡°reorder photos¡±. The ability to decide what order they fall in within our albums.

Who knew I¡¯d miss something about Yahoo!

As the official Photo monitor for our group I was given moderator status. With this I could change album titles to work around the alphabetical album sort.

I see nothing like this, is it coming?



Re: Reorder photos #suggestion

 

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I¡¯d like to see it too.

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Don

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy in Renton
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Reorder photos #suggestion

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I sure miss the option in Yahoo photos where we could ¡°reorder photos¡±. The ability to decide what order they fall in within our albums.

Who knew I¡¯d miss something about Yahoo!

As the official Photo monitor for our group I was given moderator status. With this I could change album titles to work around the alphabetical album sort.

I see nothing like this, is it coming?


sort members by last posting date

J_Catlady
 

I want to sort members by their last posting date. Does anyone know how to do this, or is there possibly some easy kluge??
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Move photos between albums #suggestion

Nancy in Renton
 

I also miss the ability for a moderator to move photos between albums.
Nancy


Reorder photos #suggestion

Nancy in Renton
 

I sure miss the option in Yahoo photos where we could ¡°reorder photos¡±. The ability to decide what order they fall in within our albums.

Who knew I¡¯d miss something about Yahoo!

As the official Photo monitor for our group I was given moderator status. With this I could change album titles to work around the alphabetical album sort.

I see nothing like this, is it coming?


Re: Pinned posts

 

great idea. Campers in general read about as well as they always have not. LOL? Love 'em anyway

Barb



From: Nancy in Renton <sday13@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Pinned posts

As a work around I made a hashtag, red in color and named it ¡°Admin¡±. It works to draw attention. Plus, any questions on the topic I can say ¡°check the messages with the red hashtag¡±.



Re: Problem with Incredimail formatting (was: html)

 

Increditmail used to use web beacons.
Not sure if they still do.
Would that have any effect on the problem?

mike bader

On 1/16/2018 9:45 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Anita,

My group uses incredimail and sends letters with graphics. I was
testing this and one letter came back all disorganized and not the way
it should look.
"Came back"? I assume you're talking about back into your inbox. At which email service?

Can you look at that same message in the group's Messages pages? How does it look there?


Re: Problem with Incredimail formatting (was: html)

 

Anita,

My group uses incredimail and sends letters with graphics. I was
testing this and one letter came back all disorganized and not the way
it should look.
"Came back"? I assume you're talking about back into your inbox. At which email service?

Can you look at that same message in the group's Messages pages? How does it look there?

I tried it with a letter without a side border and it works. I was
wondering if there is a setting I should be using or are you not
supporting this?
No, I think the default settings of Groups.io groups pass formatted (HTML) messages through pretty much untouched, except for appending the footer. I suppose it is possible that some kind of formatting, such as the side border, gets tangled up with the message footer and that's causing what you see.

Mainly the html is coming out distorted and is there a way to go
to traditional mail ...
As I mentioned for your other post, there isn't a "traditional" setting for Groups.io.

or can you fix this.
Not *me*, I'm just another Groups.io user (though I do own this particular group).

Perhaps you (or rather your group members) can just work around that problem by applying the "don't do that" remedy. That is, don't apply borders to the messages.

I am not impressed with your support as many of my letters here and
also to Mark are unanswered.
I can't speak for Mark, but GMF is a volunteer run group, not an official support group. So as Mike said, it may take more than a day. Things here run on "volunteer" time. That is, you get an answer when and if someone here feels like spending their own time to help you.

I wish the owners here would help me.
I was going to suggest that if the messages appear messed up on Groups.io's Message page, you could cite the group name and message number(s) in an email to support, and perhaps include screenshots of what it should have looked like as well as how it does.

But I see that Mark has already said "no" to supporting problems with Incredimail formatting. And he *does* own Groups.io ...


... so you may just have to work around it. Or not.

Shal
GMF Owner


Re: Pinned posts

Nancy in Renton
 

As a work around I made a hashtag, red in color and named it ¡°Admin¡±. It works to draw attention. Plus, any questions on the topic I can say ¡°check the messages with the red hashtag¡±.


Re: Moderator issues #moderation #membership

Matthew King - AK4MK
 

Thanks, Shal. That fixed the problem!

Take care,

Matt

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Matt,

> When he goes there, the MEMBERS button/pull down menu only shows
> PENDING APPROVAL for him. When he clicks the MEMBERS button to get the
> pull down menu, it's just blank.

Check that moderator's permissions.

I reproduce your description when the moderator has "Approve Pending Members" but none of the three permissions which allow access to the member list.

I've noticed some peculiar behavior of the Members list when a mod doesn't have all three of those permissions, I've reported to support but so far have received only the automated reply.

Shal





Re: Missing messages

 

Thanks, Shai. Since it's only these two members that I know of, it just seems strange that they both use Yahoo mail.

Ann

On January 16, 2018 5:43:14 PM CST, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Ann,

Could there be a setting in Yahoo mail that is causing the
problem?

Possibly. Or maybe "doubtful".

There is a "Group by conversation" feature in Yahoo Mail, so that might
confuse them if they weren't used to it. But it seems unlikely that they
would have changed that setting coincidentally. And the one
"conversation" I have in my inbox doesn't seem confusing: the list shows
a number for the number of messages, and opening the conversation shows
the messages in one tall scroll.

One thing I noticed recently was they invited me to try the "new" inbox.
I think they rolled that out some months ago, but I very rarely visit so
I just now saw it. So I wouldn't guess that to be the source of a
"recent" change either.

You could also double-check their subscriptions to be sure that they
aren't using options in the Advanced Preferences expander to limit what
messages they receive. But adjusting that would more likely cause them
to receive only the *first* message of a topic, not the last. So I doubt
that's it. And again there's the "recent change" question.

Shal




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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Re: Missing messages

 

Ann,

Could there be a setting in Yahoo mail that is causing the
problem?
Possibly. Or maybe "doubtful".

There is a "Group by conversation" feature in Yahoo Mail, so that might confuse them if they weren't used to it. But it seems unlikely that they would have changed that setting coincidentally. And the one "conversation" I have in my inbox doesn't seem confusing: the list shows a number for the number of messages, and opening the conversation shows the messages in one tall scroll.

One thing I noticed recently was they invited me to try the "new" inbox. I think they rolled that out some months ago, but I very rarely visit so I just now saw it. So I wouldn't guess that to be the source of a "recent" change either.

You could also double-check their subscriptions to be sure that they aren't using options in the Advanced Preferences expander to limit what messages they receive. But adjusting that would more likely cause them to receive only the *first* message of a topic, not the last. So I doubt that's it. And again there's the "recent change" question.

Shal


Re: Moderator issues #moderation #membership

Matthew King - KK4CPS
 

Ah, thank you, Shal. Glad you were able to reproduce it.

I enabled the "Set Member Subscription Options" now. I'm about to let him know about it so we give it a whirl.

Thanks for the advice! I'll let you know how it works out.

Matt


On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Matt,

> When he goes there, the MEMBERS button/pull down menu only shows
> PENDING APPROVAL for him. When he clicks the MEMBERS button to get the
> pull down menu, it's just blank.

Check that moderator's permissions.

I reproduce your description when the moderator has "Approve Pending Members" but none of the three permissions which allow access to the member list.

I've noticed some peculiar behavior of the Members list when a mod doesn't have all three of those permissions, I've reported to support but so far have received only the automated reply.

Shal





Re: Moderator issues #moderation #membership

 

Matt,

When he goes there, the MEMBERS button/pull down menu only shows
PENDING APPROVAL for him. When he clicks the MEMBERS button to get the
pull down menu, it's just blank.
Check that moderator's permissions.

I reproduce your description when the moderator has "Approve Pending Members" but none of the three permissions which allow access to the member list.

I've noticed some peculiar behavior of the Members list when a mod doesn't have all three of those permissions, I've reported to support but so far have received only the automated reply.

Shal


Re: member got deleted

 

The service that starts with A and ends with L (and has been known to auto-delete posts that mention them, on the assumption that any mention will not be favorable) is notorious for this behavior. Many list emails are dumped into the spam folder, and, unless the sender marks them as not spam, the post is reported. At that point, their rules require the sending ISP to unsubscribe them.

Now that Verizon mail is being run by said ISP, the same rules may also apply to those addresses.

Both Yahoo and A..L use DMARC, which breaks email lists that are not configured to deal with it. When Yahoo first started using it, Yahoo Groups was not configured for it, and Yahoo subscribers of Yahoo Groups had their subscriptions messed up.

Karen R.

On 1/16/18 3:51 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Anita,

> a member got deleted because it went into her spam.
*In some cases, I believe A O L was one of them, it was observed that if a group message lands automatically in the spam folder then the user must mark it as "not spam", else if the user deletes it, or lets the service automatically delete it, that will also trigger unsubscription. That's bad behavior on the part of the email service, IMO, but not much Groups.io can do about it.