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Re: bouncing (again)

 

Cal,

About every 3 days, I've been getting an email with the subject:
Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing
The three day cadence is consistent with Groups.io's bouncing mechanism, when in the "bouncing" (blue B) status. It will give up after the fifth such message, then you'd be in the "bounced" (red B) status.

It appears that mail from the group identified in the email is still
coming through.
That shouldn't be the case, in either bouncing or bounced status. Is it possible the group messages are coming through a different email address (that is, is it possible you have two accounts at Groups.io, one bouncing one not)? Check the email address in the footer (near the Unsubscribe link) of any message you receive from the group and compare that to the address which received the bouncing notices.

When I go to the bounces page from that email, the most recent bounce
shows as being a year and a half ago.
That link might take you to the bounces page of whatever account (email address) you are currently logged in with, which might not be the address which is bouncing, if you have more than one email address registered at Groups.io. Note that the address which is bouncing might not be subscribed to the same groups as the address which isn't.

Shal


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Re: bouncing (again)

 

Is there a link to "reset" your bouncing status? Don't click it, but
hover over it and see if it leads to groups.io or some other site,
which could host malware of advertising. It sounds like it could be a
fishing scam but I thought I'd suggest checking it out.

Donald

On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 09:09:29 -0700, "Cal" <mainevent@...> wrote:

About every 3 days, I've been getting an email with the subject:
Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing
Is that a legitimate message?

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Re: transfer of files from yahoo #yahoo #transfer

 

Elizabeth,

There's nothing left on the Yahoo account. Someone in the group did
save them as a couple of zip files, ...
What Frances and Donald said.

Another possibility is if you or a group member requested a Get My Data download from Yahoo then the content of that download can be uploaded or imported to your Groups.io group. By "import" I mean that you'd give the archive to Groups.io to import into your group for you, rather than you uploading the individual items.

Shal


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Re: Anyone having this issue with bouncing members?

 
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On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 05:43 PM, Niman H wrote:
Their email delivery history shows many responses of
": 550 5.1.0 <66.175.222.12> This IP has sent too many messages this hour. IB504 <>"
66.175.222.12 is the IP address of Groups.io's outbound mail server.

Some Mail Service Providers suddenly take it upon themselves to bounce Groups.io mail for reasons nobody really knows; getting an MSP to admit to this is likely to be tricky. One blind spot is that any group owner can only see bounces for their own group; there is no means of knowing (without asking the individuals concerned) how many groups they subscribe to and how many emails they receive as a result. "Too many messages" is a somewhat unclear description of the problem; how many is too many!

Check your members' mail providers (the Bouncing list is a good place to start) to see if there is anything that might be statistically significant.

Chris


Re: Can't find a way to disallow photos in email

 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:39 AM, Herb Gellis wrote:
I've searched this GMF forum, and also looked through all the settings for my group (I'm one of the owners), and can't find a way to disallow photos in email. This is how we operated under YahooGroups, and one of our members posted an email with a bunch of pictures, which another member commented upon, wondering if we are still disallowing them. What I can find is the ability to "strip" attachments in emails, or to resize pictures to one of a set of possible pixel counts. Currently "strip" is set, no resizing.
Herb -- In Message Formatting, if you set attachments to be stripped and also check the Plain Text Only box (uncheck the HTML options), I *think* this will eliminate all photos from group emails.

Please try it and report back.?

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Messages sent to group not showing up

 

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I have the same situation,

I am a member of a group, I get many E-Mails of the messages from them every day.

But if I reply to them, or start a new message.? nothing happens,

It sends just fine, no bounces or any error of any kind.? but it never ever comes back out to be seen by anyone and never appears on the web page of messages.

whats with this?

Joe

On 4/5/2020 11:14 AM, Cal wrote:

Greetings,

In last few days, I (the owner) sent an email to one of my groups, starting a new thread, and another person (a member) sent a reply to an existing thread.?? (Note that this is a group whose name I had recently changed.)? Neither of those emails showed up in the topic list, and they didn't get distributed to the group.? What's going on there?? Is there a server problem?


Anyone having this issue with bouncing members?

 

Hi, hope everyone is well and staying safe!
I checked my bouncing members list today and found several there, all with the same message as the response:
": 421 CMGW Connection refused, too many sessions from 66.175.222.12. Please lower the number of concurrent sessions. IB007 <>?"
Their email delivery history shows many responses of
": 550 5.1.0 <66.175.222.12> This IP has sent too many messages this hour. IB504 <>"
going back to January or earlier. But they weren't bouncing then. I check the page once a week at least.
Seems strange that they all have the exact same message and IP address. I googled the?IP and it seems to be from New York. We're located in Canada.
Is this some kind of spam takeover? Are the members' accounts (email and/or ) compromised??
Is anyone else getting this message for bounced members?
Any advice would be helpful.?
Thank you, Sally?


Messages sent to group not showing up

 

Greetings,

In last few days, I (the owner) sent an email to one of my groups, starting a new thread, and another person (a member) sent a reply to an existing thread.?? (Note that this is a group whose name I had recently changed.)? Neither of those emails showed up in the topic list, and they didn't get distributed to the group.? What's going on there?? Is there a server problem?


bouncing (again)

 

About every 3 days, I've been getting an email with the subject:
Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing
Is that a legitimate message?
It appears that mail from the group identified in the email is still coming through.
When I go to the bounces page from that email, the most recent bounce shows as being a year and a half ago.
Something doesn't seem right.


Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

I am an owner of one of the groups EJP joined and received the digest before his membership was approved. He mentioned that he received the digest in his reply to our request for more info before approval. I checked out the email delivery and activity records. Email delivery logs welcome message and reply. Activity logs his application and my approval. In other words, there is no evidence in the logs that I see that he actually was sent the digest.

This is getting mighty close to a bug. Both in the empty logs and the sending of the digest. We set our archives to restricted because in the past (long before my time and groups.io) there was a flap over posts quoted in published works without acknowledging the authors. If EJP had not been approved, this would have been a tiny violation of the promise that posts are not public. If this is not a bug to be fixed, the behavior should be documented.
I suppose I should enter this in beta, but I'll wait to hear what other managers think.
Best, Marv


Re: Can't find a way to disallow photos in email

 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:39 AM, Herb Gellis wrote:
I've searched this GMF forum, and also looked through all the settings for my group (I'm one of the owners), and can't find a way to disallow photos in email. This is how we operated under YahooGroups, and one of our members posted an email with a bunch of pictures, which another member commented upon, wondering if we are still disallowing them. What I can find is the ability to "strip" attachments in emails, or to resize pictures to one of a set of possible pixel counts. Currently "strip" is set, no resizing.
In Admin, Settings, have you disallowed Photos? In Photos, Permissions.
If you absolutely want no attachments, disallow them too.
Attachments go to Emailed Photos section of your website.
In Admin, Settings, Message Formatting,?

Frances

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Can't find a way to disallow photos in email

 

I've searched this GMF forum, and also looked through all the settings for my group (I'm one of the owners), and can't find a way to disallow photos in email. This is how we operated under YahooGroups, and one of our members posted an email with a bunch of pictures, which another member commented upon, wondering if we are still disallowing them. What I can find is the ability to "strip" attachments in emails, or to resize pictures to one of a set of possible pixel counts. Currently "strip" is set, no resizing.


Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 08:58 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
If you have your group set to pending subscribers and first or more posts moderated it seems a little bit of a waste of time to me

They cannot post as its moderated and they can read the messages posted without asking to subscribe anyway
We need to be sure to include whether the group archives are public, as Antique Pattern Library is, or private.? For those with public archives, no harm is done by sending the digest, though I don't believe that should happen.? I'm in the process of doing a test for a private group and should have the results by tomorrow.? Esmond didn't specifically say if the groups joined were public or private, so this should provide additional information.

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Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 02:58 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
If you have your group set to pending subscribers and first or more posts moderated it seems a little bit of a waste of time to me
Well maybe, but the system should behave the way it is supposed to behave!

FWIW the group I co - own has 3 in the pending queue, awaiting responses to the Pending Membership notices and in one 1 case the Confirmation Email, so in these 3 cases nothing seems to be amiss.

Looking at their individual "memberships" all 3 have Individual Messages set, and in all 3 cases their Email Delivery History shows nothing being sent since the Pending Subscription messages.

Going back to the OP... can you positively confirm that the two groups to which you referred are Restricted. (i.e. applicants requiring moderator approval) Did they require you to submit a response to a Pending Subscription message, and if so did you send one to each of them? And exactly what notifications did you receive that your membership requests had been passed?

Chris


Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

If you have your group set to pending subscribers and first or more posts moderated it seems a little bit of a waste of time to me

They cannot post as its moderated and they can read the messages posted without asking to subscribe anyway

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 05/04/2020 14:24, Antique Pattern Library - Sytske wrote:
That's why I (group owner Antique Pattern Library) manually set all pending members to No-Email, No-Post until they are approved.
Best wishes,
Sytske


Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

On Sat, 04 Apr 2020 13:30:17 +0100, EJP <esmond.pitt@...> wrote:

This happened to me twice this week so I know it's real. I applied to join two groups; I set pending membership to receive daily digests; I received digests from both same day; my membership in both wasn't approved until the following day. This cannot be right. Pending members should receive nothing.

Whether it's intended or a bug I'm not clear but I will add that to me this is only an issue if the online archive is private. If it is public then sending out the digest is giving nothing away surely?

Malcolm.

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Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

That's why I (group owner Antique Pattern Library) manually set all pending members to No-Email, No-Post until they are approved.?
Best wishes,
Sytske


Re: Relocate Messages/topics

 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 08:23 AM, Tim Morris wrote:
i get a recurring issue with members changing the content of their message within a different topic. ?Eg., someone starts talking about vinyl signage, and someone responds asking about wooden flooring. ?The topic about vinyl signage then carries on about wooden flooring and so it morphs into cooking!!!

how can I change or move the first and subsequent errant post/s into a new or old topic that¡¯s more appropriate?
Split threads - see the GMF wiki -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Split-Threads

You can also merge threads -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads

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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 08:07 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
NEW: Added a search bar to the new group home page/did some
rearraigning of the page (as seen on beta@).
Hmm... I'm not seeing that on GMF. Or maybe he meant only for newly created groups? Or maybe it got rolled back already for some reason.
I wasn't the only one confused by that then!

NEW: Added Zoom integration to the calendar. You can now set up Zoom meetings when you create new events.
This was another item on the changelog that actually got rolled back in beta. Hopefully both will be made available to all groups sooner rather than later.

Andy


Relocate Messages/topics

 

Thank you in anticipation

i get a recurring issue with members changing the content of their message within a different topic. ?Eg., someone starts talking about vinyl signage, and someone responds asking about wooden flooring. ?The topic about vinyl signage then carries on about wooden flooring and so it morphs into cooking!!!

how can I change or move the first and subsequent errant post/s into a new or old topic that¡¯s more appropriate?

thanks, Tim