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Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

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Another 'better' solution:

Disable Spam Filtering altogether. This works! Thank you Donald Hellen

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On 4/7/2020 9:38 AM, Duane wrote:

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 08:33 AM, Den W2DEN wrote:
After almost 2 hours we found the problem.
Thanks for your update.? I've added a link to this message on our wiki page about Comcast, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Comcast.net

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Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

Den . . .

On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 06:19:15 -0700, "Den W2DEN" <w2den@...>
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if you are missing incoming emails go on-line to your Xifinity Connect and make sure the settings are correct. If emails are being sent to spam you can see them then you need to call Comcast to get help 888-565-4329 (8am-8pm)I hope this helps other
What happens if you just disable spam filtering. Will it let the
messages pass through to your inbox?

With Roadrunner email, I don't think I had the choice to disable it
but I did have the choice to let it add "SPAM" to the beginning of the
subject line on suspected spam messages then send them to my inbox.

Your image shows there's a check box to enable spam filtering, so I
was wondering what would happen if it was unchecked.

Donald


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Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 08:33 AM, Den W2DEN wrote:
After almost 2 hours we found the problem.
Thanks for your update.? I've added a link to this message on our wiki page about Comcast, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Comcast.net

Duane
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Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

After almost 2 hours we found the problem.
Comcast has marked our [email protected] address as SPAM. Default settings on the Xfinity email account are to enable spam filtering and NOT save a copy. This can be found in the Settings / Advanced Settings near the bottom for each Xfinity email account. Enabling both Spam Filtering choices will put all spam into the spam folder on the server. At least you can see what is being filtered.
This has been escalated by Comcast tech support to remove this address from their spam list which is administered by a third party. may take 72 hours.


... if you are missing incoming emails go on-line to your Xifinity Connect and make sure the settings are correct. If emails are being sent to spam you can see them then you need to call Comcast to get help 888-565-4329 (8am-8pm)
I hope this helps others.....
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Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 06:25 AM, EJP wrote:
>?It would be best if someone that's experienced the anomaly reported it

I thought that was what I was doing.
GMF is a user-to-user group.? We have no capabilities to do anything other than try to help others resolve situations using the existing site tools.

> on the beta group

This is a problem with the rolled-out production version of the site, not a beta version. I fail to see the point.
The beta group is the official group for reporting bugs and making suggestions.? Mark (site owner) had mentioned possibly changing the name of it once the site 'went live', but it's so ingrained after 5 years that it hasn't been done.? That may also have something to do with the fact that there are many references on other groups using links to the beta group that would be broken if it changed.

> so they could furnish any other details of the process.

Again, I thought that was what I was doing. I've already been asked to repeat myself once. This is just giving me the runaround. I pass. Sorry to have wasted my time.
Hopefully you've learned more about how the site works and which groups are intended for various functions, as well as giving others a heads up on a possible problem, so not a complete waste of time.

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Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:25 PM, EJP wrote:
This is a problem with the rolled-out production version of the site, not a beta version. I fail to see the point.
Ah... I suspect a misunderstanding. "beta" is the Groups.io group where problems are reported and changes / improvements suggested. The Home Page is .

Chris


Re: Received daily digests before subscription was approved

 

>?It would be best if someone that's experienced the anomaly reported it

I thought that was what I was doing.

> on the beta group

This is a problem with the rolled-out production version of the site, not a beta version. I fail to see the point.

> so they could furnish any other details of the process.

Again, I thought that was what I was doing. I've already been asked to repeat myself once. This is just giving me the runaround. I pass. Sorry to have wasted my time.

EJP


Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

I have looked at all the suggestions.
  • There are no recent messages in my bounced page ( latest is 2019)
  • The messages are all listed in the Message Activity and my Member Activity
  • Some members did receive the messages, I did not
  • Yes, i use Comcast but there was no unusual amount of Groups.io message that day.
I will attempt to open a ticket with Comcast to try and 'upgrade their reception limits'.


Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

Fred,

I am a group owner a large group. My group is having same problem. I
am not receiving notifications to moderate messages either.

I am also member of other groups and not receiving messages from those
groups either but can go to website and see activity.
Same advice as for Den and Joe: check your email delivery.

For messages addressed to you from specific group there's an Email Delivery History tab in your Subscription page.

For messages addressed to you from all of your group memberships there's the Bounce History page in your account.

Comcast is one of the email services that doesn't seem to be able (or willing) to handle the volume of traffic from Groups.io to the service's customers. To resolve this problem you'll have to convince Comcast to upgrade their reception limits from Groups.io.

Shal


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Re: same suffix on all groups

 

Neil,

It appears your suggestion did the trick all now appear to be normal.
Glad to hear it!

That being the case Erikag59's suggestion is on-the-mark: you probably should do some in-depth grooming of Thunderbird's address book - it would seem you've somehow collected a bunch of useless or erroneous contact entries. Since those addresses might be used for auto-completion when you type an address, they will only add confusion.

And you are correct I have been using Thunderbird for years.
Me too. And Eudora Pro before that.

Shal


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Re: Anyone having this issue with bouncing members?

 

Sally,

Seems strange that they all have the exact same message and IP
address.
The IP address 66.175.222.12 is Groups.io's outbound server. So not strange at all.

Is anyone else getting this message for bounced members?
Those, and messages like them, seem to plague users of certain email services. The services don't seem to understand that Groups.io is a list service, and try to limit the delivery of messages as if the messages were undesirable. Or maybe they have inadequate server resources to handle users who subscribe to mailing lists.

Shal


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Re: Anyone having this issue with bouncing members?

 

Christopher,

To the people who've been around longer: is this the sort of thing
that should be reported to [email protected] so that they're aware of
the situation with this host?
I don't believe that is necessary, Mark appears to have automatic monitoring for delivery issues:

"INTERNAL: More logging to track email delivery speed"


"FYI: I'm seeing some slow email delivery, and am investigating the
issue."


E.g., is there a per-host configuration that is maintained that would,
say, throttle messages being sent to avoid/limit these soft of
bounces.
Yes:

"... for cox.net and comcast customers because we have to strictly limit
how many messages we send to those services."


Though what Niman reported /is/ different:
421 ... CMGW Connection refused, too many sessions from 66.175.222.12.
Please lower the number of concurrent sessions.
That's distinct from too many messages in a period of time. Each session between Groups.io's outbound server and the receiving service may transfer multiple messages addressed to multiple addresses at that service, coming from multiple groups.

Regardless, the root of these problems are that the email service doesn't have a high enough limit to accommodate messages from a list service like Groups.io, or perhaps boosts the limits for some other legit high-volume sources, but not Groups.io.

It will be up to the affected members to convince their email service to actually deliver desired messages, and not block or throttle them as if they were undesirable.

Shal
Or, my impertinent advice: get a better email service.


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Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

I am a group owner a large group.? My group is having same problem.? I am not receiving notifications to moderate messages either.?

I am also member of other groups and not receiving messages from those groups either but can go to website and see activity.

Fred J


Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

Please check this about your own subscription:

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Not-Receiving-Messages

For other members' delivery, go to Admin, Members. Select a member. Go to the pane "Email Delivery History".

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Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

where would you do this?


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On 4/6/2020 6:55 PM, Duane wrote:

Have you checked your (and others) email delivery history?? That's where you'll find if it was actually sent or the reason it was bounced.

Duane
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Re: Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

Have you checked your (and others) email delivery history?? That's where you'll find if it was actually sent or the reason it was bounced.

Duane
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Re: Determining total usage

 

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:29 PM, Frances wrote:
And to see your use, go to Admin, Upgrade.
If you have a Premium group, look under Admin, Billing.

Andy


Chronic:: Messages not being delivered.

 

Multiple new topics are not being delivered. I created a new topic / message this morning and it never arrived in my in-box, trash etc.. it is in the activity log with the correct time i sent it, just never went out
This started intermittently a few months ago but now has gotten to almost everything posted on our site.
Please help.


Re: Determining total usage

 

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 04:29 PM, Frances wrote:
And to see your use, go to Admin, Upgrade.
You can also use /g/YourGroup/usage (replacing YourGroup with the actual name of your group)

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Re: Determining total usage

 

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 05:26 PM, George Gutman wrote:
Under the "Photos" tab there are totals at the bottom for "Photos" and "Attachments", and a total under "Files" as well. But neither seems to show the space consumed by the messages themselves? - what am I missing?
Messages don't count against your usage.
See?/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

And to see your use, go to Admin, Upgrade.

Frances

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