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Re: Why no List-Post: header?

 

If this is added, I think it should be a per group option.? There are groups that discourage off-list contact.? If/when the anonymous groups feature is added, this would need to be off for them.

Duane


Using Hashtags #hashtags

 

Is there any way for members to receive messages based on specific hashtags...?? My group includes both discussions and self-promotion. Same field, but two distinctly different interests.??

Norman


Re: Why no List-Post: header?

Arno Martens
 

Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:39:04 -0800, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...>,
wrote:

Without the header the only option is replying to the group, or copy
and pasting the From address.
That's assuming the group's Reply To setting is "Group". It may take
some testing to determine if List-Post is appropriate if the group is
set to Sender, Moderators, or Group and Sender.

Shal

I am quite all right with the reply to "Group" setting, as it is posted
in a group after all.
If I am replying to an individual OFF LIST, I am enduring the hardship
of cutting and pasting the address and add the OFF LIST comment.

I am not very pleased when I see the demand "Send a reply to me directly
as I do not check the group very often."

Arno


Re: FW: One member having mail issues, help please.

 

Hi Shal, I just went and triple checked the second point you made and it's
set to Group. I think I mentioned to her the reply all option and to check
she wasn't hitting that & I don't think she is but I'll get her to double
check. Thanks for your help.

Gilly UK xxx

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: 11 December 2017 21:35
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] FW: One member having mail issues, help please.

Hi Gilly,

> One of my members is having issues with cc ing in me and a few other >
members each time she posts to group.

If these are replies she's posting, some email interfaces allow the user to
select "Reply to all" as the default reply method. That would likely post to
both the group and the original sender. She'd have to look for that setting
in her email interface.

> I'm pretty sure the issue is her end but I also remember seeing a >
settings page regarding reply to all etc ( I don't think that's the > issue
as it's just one member, but would like to be able to find it > again!)

In the Message Policies section of your group's Settings page is the "Reply
To" option. It can be set to one of:
Group,
Sender,
Moderators, or
Group and Sender.

I agree with you though, this isn't likely the problem if it is just the one
member having the issue.

Shal


Re: Viewing Group message format settings

 

Ok Shal, I¡¯ll do that.
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Some primal termite knocked on wood, And tasted it, and found it good!
And that is why your Cousin May, Fell through the parlor floor today.
- Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On 12 Dec 2017, at 07:49, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

David,

What I¡¯m looking for is the information found here ...
Ah, I misunderstood.

I¡¯m following this up because a member of a group of which I am not
admin appears to be getting plain text and I wanted to check if that
option had been set for the entire group - not something the member
had done.
I don't know of anyplace a member can see those.

You could suggest in beta@ that those settings be included in the list of settings shown on the group's home page. The only argument against it I can think of would be an argument against using up more screen space.

Shal



Re: Viewing Group message format settings

 

David,

What I¡¯m looking for is the information found here ...
Ah, I misunderstood.

I¡¯m following this up because a member of a group of which I am not
admin appears to be getting plain text and I wanted to check if that
option had been set for the entire group - not something the member
had done.
I don't know of anyplace a member can see those.

You could suggest in beta@ that those settings be included in the list of settings shown on the group's home page. The only argument against it I can think of would be an argument against using up more screen space.

Shal


Re: Why no List-Post: header?

 

Drew,

Is there a reason why Groups.io does not use a List-Post header in
group messages?
Possibly Mark is unaware of it, or unaware of its benefits?

I'd not heard of it, but found it in RFC 2369. From the abstract:
"There are three other header fields described here which, although
not as widely applicable, will have utility for a sufficient number
of mailing lists to justify their formalization here. These are
List-Post, List-Owner and List-Archive."


I recommend posting this a suggestion to beta@, including the above citation for the benefit of other readers.

Without the header the only option is replying to the group, or copy
and pasting the From address.
That's assuming the group's Reply To setting is "Group". It may take some testing to determine if List-Post is appropriate if the group is set to Sender, Moderators, or Group and Sender.

Shal


Re: New io group not activated

 

? Yes I did Dano....? Took a bit of study but I am sure it went through ok, I just am concerned about the time it is taking....

Rod


Why no List-Post: header?

 

Is there a reason why Groups.io does not use a List-Post header in group messages? That header makes it a lot easier to reply privately to someone's From address rather than to the group Reply-to address. At least in Thunderbird... messages with a List-Post header causes Thunderbird to provide "Reply" as well as "Reply-to-List" options. Without the header the only option is replying to the group, or copy and pasting the From address.

Drew


Re: Viewing Group message format settings

 

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What I¡¯m looking for is the information found here:

which leads to:


This is from a group I am admin in, but you can¡¯t see this if you are a normal member.
I¡¯m following this up because a member of a group of which I am not admin appears to be getting plain text and I wanted to check if that option had been set for the entire group - not something the member had done.

¡ª David?
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Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. - last words of Oscar Wild

On 11 Dec 2017, at 22:21, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

David,

> Yes I know, but as you say, it doesn¡¯t include them all, especially
> things like delivery type etc.

Delivery type?

That's something each subscriber sets for him/herself. That you can see on your Subscription page. In the left column, just below the link for the group's home page.

Shal





Re: New io group not activated

 

Rod -
Did you remember to invite [email protected] to be a member of your Yahoo group and, after acceptance, give it administrator access to everything? The system needs full access to your old group in order to copy everything over.

Dano
BTDT <sigh>

----- Original Message -----

On December 4th I started a new group for a replacement of the Yahoo group for the SONY shortwave radio the ICF-2010.... /g/SonyICF20102001Dusergroup

I thought I sent the right email to have the files, photos and documents transferred but to date it shows nothing even though the red message shows the group will go live when the files are transferred. I was to believe this would take a few days but it has been a week. Any ideas?
Also need to know the transfer of all messages if that can be done?

Thanks Rod aka poikaa@...


Re: How to fix bouncing email status?

 

It was a bug and Mark has fixed it :-)
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-LeeAnne

?Archivist


Re: New io group not activated

 

Rod,

I thought I sent the right email to have the files, photos and
documents transferred but to date it shows nothing even though the red
message shows the group will go live when the files are transferred.
I think that's a sign that you sent the correct email to start the process.

I was to believe this would take a few days but it has been a week.
Any ideas?
I don't know. It may be that the copy hit a snag and and Mark hasn't noticed. Or maybe the flood of transfer requests is just taking that long.

You could send another email to [email protected] to express your concern.

Also need to know the transfer of all messages if that can be done?
I don't know if the copy process proceeds one section at a time, or in what order. I would kind of expect that messages would be second, after members.

Shal


Re: Yahoo email address contortions

 

Drew,

Can someone please give me a quick refresh on why a Yahoo email
address such as "user@..." becomes "user@..." on
posted messages?
It's called DMARC.

It is a protocol whereby an email sending service can tell email receiving service to reject any message that doesn't come directly from the sending servers and is not an exact copy of one was sent from them.

Basically it is considered to be an anti-spoofing technology, but it has the side-effect of causing messages that go by way of mailing lists (such as Yahoo Groups or Groups.io or Mailman, or ...) to be rejected, or sent to spam.

Yahoo and a few other email services have that turned on. To help ensure that messages from the afflicted members (yes, I meant it that way) are actually delivered to other group members Groups.io mangles the From address, so that the message is now From groups.io, but still contains the sender's email address so that you can untangle it if you wish.

Yahoo Groups' response to the same problem is to mangle everyone's address, and much more grossly.


Shal


New io group not activated

 

? On December 4th I started a new group for a replacement of the Yahoo group for the SONY shortwave radio the ICF-2010....??/g/SonyICF20102001Dusergroup

I thought I sent the right email to have the files, photos and documents transferred but to date it shows nothing even though the red message shows the group will go live when the files are transferred. I was to believe this would take a few days but it has been a week. Any ideas?
? Also need to know the transfer of all messages if that can be done?

Thanks Rod aka poikaa@...


Yahoo email address contortions

 

I used to know this...

Can someone please give me a quick refresh on why a Yahoo email address such as "user@..." becomes "user@..." on posted messages? Thanks.

Drew


Re: Passwords for Migrated Members #membership #transfer

 

Tim,

Our group just finished migrating today. We've had a couple of members
ask what their password is to access the files, photos, etc.
They don't have one until and unless they set one.

Or, they can use the "Email me a link to log in" button. That will send them a link which will take him/her to their list of groups (I think), logged in for 30 days. They need never set a password, just ask for another emailed login link when needed.

This is particularly handy on mobile devices where typing or copy/pasting a strong password can be a chore.

One in particular said when he asks for his password to be reset/sent
it just takes him back to the login prompt.
It should take him to a prompt for him to enter his email address. Then Groups.io will send an email with a link in it. The link will take him to his account page where he can set a password.

Shal


Re: Passwords for Migrated Members #membership #transfer

 

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Tim,

They need to know they just use the e-mail they receive the mails on, not the Yahoo account. There is no initial password, if they put in a password and try to login, ?it should send them a link to set it.

Dave

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim McDonough N9PUZ
Sent: 11 December 2017 23:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Passwords for Migrated Members #membership #transfer

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Our group just finished migrating today. We've had a couple of members ask what their password is to access the files, photos, etc. One in particular said when he asks for his password to be reset/sent it just takes him back to the login prompt.

Advice?

Tim


Re: Passwords for Migrated Members #membership #transfer

Arno Martens
 

Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:29:51 -0800, "Tim McDonough N9PUZ"
<tim.n9puz@...>, wrote:

Our group just finished migrating today. We've had a couple of members ask what their password is to access the files, photos, etc. One in particular said when he asks for his password to be reset/sent it just takes him back to the login prompt.

Advice?

Tim

At that time he can now make a password of his choosing or use anything
you allowed him to do for the next 30 days.

If not logged in by then, this procedure can be started over again.

Arno


Passwords for Migrated Members #membership #transfer

 

Our group just finished migrating today. We've had a couple of members ask what their password is to access the files, photos, etc. One in particular said when he asks for his password to be reset/sent it just takes him back to the login prompt.

Advice?

Tim