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Re: Face Book
Sandi D.
A little over a year ago, I brought over the GIO a family FB private group that was 5 yrs old.
Here's what I did: Announced closure and all stopped posting Opened up GIO group and all joined.? Gave everyone 45 days to download a copy (FB will send it to you upon request) of everything they wanted.? Removed everything from the FB Group (Including members), waited about a month or so and then deleted the group. Kept FB account open so I didn't loose account control (FB owns content and search results can populate "deleted" FB sites and accounts for years).? I can't recall what file type the FB posts were exported to me. I want to think it was HTML or PDF which I have retained as an archived file for our GIO group.? You mentioned it was a health related FB group. If your friend has a public FB group or is using the account to host postings from others, one question she needs to answer is whether or not she is concerned about the information "left on FB" after suspending or deleting it. She might want to embed a link to the new GIO group so people can find her. Since health care posts can be very personal at times, if it were my group, I wouldn't want to take responsibility for bringing FB posts over to GIO. I would announce closure and give each poster time to request their own FB download archive. I would start fresh on GIO. People tend post a question they want answered. They don't search through years of archived posts to locate answers. Perhaps bring the relavent FB files and photos to GIO.? FB servers refresh content periodically. A deceased friend has about 10 FB "impersonated" accounts, all looking the same and reporting them to FB hasn't led to their removal. I deleted a FB business page and it's still viewable now 2 years later. I can still find a FB page that was "deleted" 7 yrs ago by another person to point to the same business. It contains erroneous contact information which confuses people who search for the business now. FB servers have retained the content somehow. It's frustrating and I and others have contacted FB, no solution. FB pages aren't the same as FB groups but the point I am making is that FB servers may or may not retain data you "left behind" when deleting a group, page or account. FB retains full control over posted content. When you delete a FB account the only thing you are really doing is to remove your access to managing the content. If you don't want old content "out there", it can't hurt to actually delete all of your posted content and keep the account open for a period of time so that the FB servers can refresh a couple of time and theoretically replace the prior posted data with zilch.? -- Sandi Dickenson Moderator of ASG Volunteers Group |
Re: Confirmation email
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 09:07 AM, Janice Smart wrote:
When I approve a post I receive a confirmation email. How can I turn off that feature.If you don't want to receive the approved email, change your subscription to full featured digest or something else. Likely, you will still want to get the email saying that there is a message to approve, etc. Go to your subscription. You realize though that the "confirmation email" is the actual post after your have approved it. The one your other members see. And I have my email set up so they go in different folders. Frances ? -- Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)
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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part
#settings
#listmanagement
Gerald Boutin
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:44 AM, Christopher W. wrote:
Yup: the settings are saved. I took the screenshot from a fresh load of theUnderstood. In case you haven't already tried this, uncheck the setting and then do an Update Group and then set it again and Update Group. You might even want to do a browser page refresh between doing the settings. ? -- Gerald |
Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part
#settings
#listmanagement
On 2019-12-15 at 1:05:08 PM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote:
In this particular case, there was a plain text part as well as a HTML partI think the plain text in admin, settings modifies Attachments, not thePlain text applies to the message itself. However if the sender doesn't (see the Content-Type and the headers of each part in the original message [1]), so it doesn't seem like conversions are at play here. My expectation was that the text/plain part would have been used & stored and that the text/html part would have been dropped. For now, I've enabled Normalize HTML Emails and will continue to monitor the situation. If the group stills get messages with unwanted HTML in them, I'll ask support for help. Though, in the new year... [1]: mid:1248034367.20191215114735@... or /g/GroupManagersForum/message/26184 -- Christopher Warrington <lists@...> |
Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part
#settings
#listmanagement
On 2019-12-15 at 3:38:42 PM, Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:
However, going back to basics, I have to ask if you are certain that youYup: the settings are saved. I took the screenshot from a fresh load of the page. Additionally, I set this option a few weeks ago, when I was initially setting up the group. -- Christopher Warrington <lists@...> |
Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?
Zhao Li
Thanks Shal for the additional option of merging the threads. I¡¯ll definitely keep that in mind if the threading algorithm doesn¡¯t catch the late email.
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Thanks again :) On Dec 15, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: |
Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?
Zhao,
I see it's possible using the web interface, but was wondering if it'sIf you have a copy of the original message in your email interface, if you use the interface's reply function (not the reply links in the message footer) most email interfaces will include a header field to indicate that this is a reply, and what message it is a reply to. They generally use either or both of "In-Reply-To" or "References". If your reply has one of those fields then the time limit Chris mentioned doesn't apply. Simply leave the Subject line unchanged and the reply should link up to the old thread. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm If it doesn't, a group moderator can merge it to the old thread. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part
#settings
#listmanagement
Gerald Boutin
Christopher,
I repeated your experiment and I do not see any remnants of html in the generated messages. Likewise, if I receive an html formatted message, the html is stripped out and I am left with only text. I see now that we differ in one setting, that being "Normalize HTML...". I have that checked. However, going back to basics, I have to ask if you are certain that you actually scrolled way down to the bottom of the page and clicked on the blue button to "Update Group". -- Gerald |
Re: Face Book
Glenn Glazer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe short answer is no. The slightly
longer answer is that Facebook does not provide identity
information, and in particular, email addresses of members to
Facebook group owners. At that point, one would have to ask every
member for their email address and pretty much start a new group
from scratch. The much longer answer involves a bunch of technical
details on how Facebook groups store and present data in
completely different ways than groups do.
Best, Glenn On 12/15/2019 14:26, Janice wrote: I have been contacted by a friend who is a member of a health related Face Book group.? The owner of that group is looking for a different place to host her group.? I am not a Face Book user so my question may be silly.? Can Groups.io transfer a group from Face Book like they did for me from Yahoo? |
Re: Failed transfers.....
I purchased the PGOffline program and with that was able to download and export the list of members by display name.? But I am NOT getting the email addresses or any other member data.? Does anyone know if there is a way to do that with PGO?? Or, failing that, can the Chrome app do it?
Frances, by purchase I meant the transfer service from iogroups. I also tried the Archiveteam but it returned an error message.? Will try it again. ? https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups Thanks. Alan |
Face Book
I have been contacted by a friend who is a member of a health related Face Book group.? The owner of that group is looking for a different place to host her group.? I am not a Face Book user so my question may be silly.? Can Groups.io transfer a group from Face Book like they did for me from Yahoo?
Janice B Utah New Statler Siblings--a long arm quilting group. |
Bruce,
? Yes, you are so right.? That's why I've spend the entire day snagging more messages on this borrowed time.? Come Monday morning, the chances will be much slimmer. ? Per Yahoo's notice ... Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites. .... ? The key word is STARTING.? So, speculating it will be a slow process.? Maybe whacking the lower fruit groups with the least members and small content along with years of in-activity.?? BUT, I could be wrong on that too. ? BMaverick |
Re: Can polls show results but responder information?
Zhao Li
Yea, but it's unfortunate that the results cannot be viewed by regular subscribers... On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 11:03 AM Frances <frances@...> wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 03:51 PM, Frances wrote: |
Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part
#settings
#listmanagement
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý> I think the plain text in admin, settings modifies Attachments,
>?not the messages themselves.
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Plain text applies to the message itself. However if the sender doesn't actually send in plain text, the system has to do the conversion itself. It appears that occasionally that conversion can convert HTML to plain text instead of deleting it. Plain text will allow live links. I believe the system extracts to ASCII and not to Extended ASCII or UTF-8, because some characters don't come through.
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Normalize HTML Emails is not as restrictive as plain text and will allow through more than plain text, but as noted, strips out color and font information.
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Dano
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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part
#settings
#listmanagement
On my two groups Plain Text Only is working. For one I chose Attachments - Strip, for another Attachments - Allow.
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Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?
Zhao Li
Thank you Chris for the information and recommendation.? I will follow your advice :) Thanks again for your time, Zhao On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12=[email protected]> wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 08:39 PM, Zhao Li wrote: |
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