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I changed my Yahoo group description on my groups. The new description informs my group members where to find us. And why we moved! It also informs Yahoo, if they happen to read it, that we need more than a glorified email group.

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I apologize in advance because I know I read this somewhere but can't find it.? Please point me to where it explains that if your members were transferred from a yahoogroups, if they were getting emails there, they should get emails from the new io group and be able to post via email or reply to someone else's post via email.? If I understand correctly, they only have to register with groups.io if they want to use the web UI.? Is this correct?

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 08:48 PM, Ken KM4NFQ wrote:

In the past I have joined groups that requested a reason why I wanted
to join. I may consider doing that if I start to get too many of the
wrong sort of people in the group. I just don't know what the wrong
sort is at the moment. I guess I'll play it by ear. I would rather not
have to do too much extra work if I don't have to, because it takes
time.

If you find you need to, you can set up and activate a pending subscription notice. Not too much work. Just about all happens automatically. But it might save you some grief.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

Frances

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Thank you for your reply Dano.

In the past I have joined groups that requested a reason why I wanted
to join. I may consider doing that if I start to get too many of the
wrong sort of people in the group. I just don't know what the wrong
sort is at the moment. I guess I'll play it by ear. I would rather not
have to do too much extra work if I don't have to, because it takes
time. Then again, having to actively moderate a list takes time as
well. I prefer to let a group moderate itself if at all possible. The
theory is that most of the people joining the list will want to stay
on topic. But I know how that can go. So I'll just have to see who
joins, and what the dynamic of the group is. The main thing, for me,
is to not have to be putting too much time twiddling with the
dashboard in the background.

Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"

Jessica,

doesn't seem to be happening. As many of the members from the old
group are emailing me seperatetly.

What are they telling you?

followed step by step Messge says it's in progress.

Can you screenshot that message for us? Or at least quote the message exactly?

Are you at a screen like the screenshot in Step 5 here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

But this has been going on for about six weeks

Then you are stuck somewhere, Groups.io is caught up. Go over the sequence in the wiki page above and do every step in order.

Shal


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Is there any general opinion as to why members of a premium transferred group are bouncing? I know it has been discussed but I don’t know if anything was decided. Yahoo used to tell you why there was a bounce.

Thank you
Susan B

Adam, Chris,

Set it to "Announcement" and they will not be able to post and that
/should/ get their attention.

In the controls of a Yahoo Group that would be on the Access Control tab of the Control Panel. In the row for "Messages-Who can post" move the selector to the Moderators Only column.

Or, as I did, on the Moderation tab select Moderated, and use the Reject with Reply function to remind the stragglers about the change of posting address.

Shal


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There was a message on Friday morning from Mark (Groups.io).?From November 15, 2019

If you are still in limbo, you need to find out what's happening. Check the status of your transfer.
To check status of an ongoing transfer: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948

People are reporting really quick turn around. Earlier today someone said: "taking about an hour from go-ahead to completion."

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Ginger,

My group still shows up under my Hotmail account, so hopefully,
I will now get messages delivered there.

Whether or not you receive messages from a particular group is controlled by the settings in the Subscription page of that group, when signed in using the email address in question.

Since I deleted the account with the "wrong" address will my messages
now go to the hotmail address, or is there something else I need to
do?

Deleting that account won't have any effect on delivery to another account.

I was able to delete the account under the "wrong" e-mail.
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I can't see the membership list on that group to know if I am
subscribed under two different e-mail addresses.

If you deleted the account for the wrong address, then it is no longer subscribed to any groups. The mods on that group may not know how to tell how many subscriptions you have, unless you've given them a list of all of your email addresses to check.

Shal


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doesn't seem to be happening.? As many of the members from the old group are emailing me seperatetly.?followed step by step? Messge says it's in progress. But this has been going on for about six weeks. ?any thoughts?

What step does it say you are at when you check the transfer?

To check status of an ongoing transfer: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948

Frances

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But Mark says he caught up.

Did you pay for 1 year of premium?

Did you double-check the transfer status?


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Eric,

I have renamed the existing group to it's it's use as the primary
group. I clicked on the button and nothing seems to have changed.

If the group is still without subgroups, then the name change should be instantaneous when you push the Update Group button at the bottom of the Settings page.

It should appear under the new name in the Your Groups list and elsewhere. You might need to refresh your browser page to see it though.

Shal


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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 06:01 PM, Paul J Kettle Jr wrote:

Now things seem to be back to normal with no changes from my end.

Probably a case of gray listing by your provider then.? Some of them seem to do that on a regular, but random, basis for some reason.

Duane
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Shal noted:

I'm not sure if you also need Restricted Membership. That's up
to you as a matter of the group's "culture" - whether you're open
to people of all backgrounds and level of experience who are
interested in your topic, or whether you want to qualify members
by some criteria.

I set all my groups to moderated. If the messages are visible to members and there's no approval process for members it lets anyone in to scan your archives. In one group, I ask applicants to tell me why they want to join. I get all kinds of answers, but it tells me most people are interested. On the others I can just watch for suspicious members. I think of it like having a screen door on an open back door - it doesn't keep out a determined wind, but it helps keep the flies out.

Dano

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 04:19 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

IIRC one of Groups.io's selling points (along with "no advertising") was (is?) "no tracking"

It's on the site home page, but you have to be logged out to see it, /? Probably exists elsewhere as well.

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Yes I have checked my Spam box, nothing there.? Now things seem to be back to normal with no changes from my end.? Thanks for the response.

Paul

doesn't seem to be happening.? As many of the members from the old group are emailing me seperatetly.?
followed step by step? Messge says it's in progress. But this has been going on for about six weeks
any thoughts?

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 03:58 PM, Duane wrote:

If the person that posted the picture is no longer a member of the YG or they were bouncing and didn't get transferred, then 'ownership' was passed to you.? No way to get around it, so another transfer would have the same results.? If they do rejoin at some point, you can give them ownership using the tools on the site.

John -- As a corollary to this, you cannot assign ownership to someone who isn't *currently* a member of your group. Also, as people leave, ownership of their abandoned photos gets lost. Like it or not, that's the way it is.

Bruce

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 10:19 PM, I wrote:

On that basis I'm not sure how Mark would react to someone operating tracking on a specific group or groups.

Doing a bit more digging I found myself turning to the Terms of Service (again) and found that what you are looking for might well be in breach of Conditions of Use / User Conduct point 9 and possibly also Commercial Use.

Chris