Thanks, Donald, for the useful link. I definitely am not coming from the perspective of a lawyer, but of an advocate for my community, so rather than getting heavy-handed about the law, I'm more interested in the spirit of the ADA, where we all learn to help make the world a more accessible and inclusive place for all of us. I'll contact Mark to let him know that we're having this issue, and hopefully he can figure out something simple to do to make the digests work better.

Thanks so much, everyone!

Isis

Hi everyone,

All set up ready for you and for content.?

• At the bottom of the Table of Contents of the wiki, Languages: Translation Help for Groups.io is a link to a landing page to list languages in this section of the wiki.
  
  
• Easy to create - write or paste and you can change font, colour, indents, etc. in the Advanced Toolbar ("hamburger" menu). You can also link and add attachments and screenshots / photos. Special Character in the second line of the Advanced Toolbar has accents and other diacriticals.

So go here to the landing page:
Landing page lists separate pages for different languages
This is a subsidiary table of contents for the different language pages.

I created the first entry on the landing page.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Language---xxx

Use New Page to create a page for your language help page.

This is the style for the URL for each language page.
?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Language---xxx
URLs are automatically generated by the title of the page. So there may be a page titled Language - French, one titled Language - German (or?Deutsch - your preference).
After you create a page, copy the URL for the page. You will list the page on the landing page (not the main Table of Contents for the wiki).

Don't worry - the beauty of a wiki is that we can undo. You can compare pages and revert to an older version if necessary.
Useful to put a brief explanatory note of what you changed.?

I hope the is clear enough!

The only thing you have to be careful about is not losing the page you are working on before it is linked - hooked into - the landing page menu. You can see all the pages of the wiki at the bottom of the page - a blue button Pages. But there are lots of them. That's why I suggest you adopt a style - languages - French, languages - Greek, etc.?

And there is a search box at the top of the wiki screen!

A little bit of help:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Creating-a-wiki

Frances



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Jules,

I have had my group transferred which is great.

By using the Easy Yahoo Group Transfer mechanism, or otherwise?

The messages were transferred over and put in a main folder.

What do you mean by "main folder"? Are you referring to the Messages section of a primary group, or something else?

I tried to export the whole messages and download to a zip file as the
process I thought was the same as moving photos.

Do you mean that you used the Export Group Data function in your Groups.io group's Settings page? Or do you mean that you used the getmydata function at Yahoo to export your Yahoo Group's contents?

I had created a subfolder and uploaded the message directory but I
cannot open the folder to see individual messages.

I'm uncertain where you created this subfolder, but in either of the export cases of my prior question the exported messages are in mbox formatted files. That format cannot be directly opened by any browser that I'm aware of to view the messages. One would need to extract the mbox file(s) to your computer's storage and import them to an email application, or a file viewer that supports mbox format.

I want members to view the messages for references but only in a
subgroup for members only.

I don't know of any method to make those messages easily viewable and searchable directly from your subgroup's pages. The difficulty is that viewing files from web sites is subject to each member's browser settings, as well as to the configuration of the site itself. In many cases the member will be required to download the file to view it on their own computer.

Shal


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Thank you, that's helpful.

The last email sent got a timeout at 8:13 pm (what timezone?), which suggests that everything has been queued and not sent.

Ken -
Just a couple thoughts. I have some larger groups I've brought over from Y! and some smaller ones I've created on groups.io later. Some have very internet savvy members and others are . . . Well, let's just say that on the information highway they're cruising up the parking lane with their flashers on - but they're enjoying themselves and contributing! Some of those guys I keep on moderation just so I can jump in when they post and make sure they're doing okay. I don't see those more than once or twice a month and really they take very little time.

I've found that by-and-larger, if folks are told right up front that they're expected to be courteous and criticize *ideas*, not the person posting them, a group can get by with very little effort. My largest groups have dealt with some pretty contentious issues and managed to get through them in a very civilized manner by following that basic tennet. I really think that letting members know your expectations right away, and even put them in the group guidelines avoids a lot of problems.

Overall I'd say that Gerald really gave you the most important answer with his comment:

I don't think nearly enough people know it, but this group (GMF) is a big part
of what makes GIO such a great place to be. You'd never be on your own.

My recommendation would be to start your group and invite a few people. Most of the setup recommendations are the result of literally hundreds of man-years of group ownership/moderation experience both here and on Y! and it's predecessors. If you run into something you're not sure how to handle and you've checked the GMF wiki, then bring your questions here.

Dano

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And what if the subgroups are not shown on referenced page, even after two invites have been sent???

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I know how to check the status of transfers. I've done it sccessfully 5 times.

Groups is not getting or recognizing the invitations from three Yahoo groups to bevcome subgroups of one of my premium groups.

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On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 08:00 PM, Rob McMillin wrote:

Where would I go to find the email delivery history?

It's under your Subscription for the group you're on.? For this one, it would be /g/GroupManagersForum/subdeliveries

Duane
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J Forester,

I've sent [email protected] two invitations to join each group.

No response.

You don't say if you've followed the steps that lead up to inviting the transfer agent to your Yahoo Groups.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

If you haven't then the invitations have been discarded.

If you have then you know where to look to see the status of each of your transfers.

Shal


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Yes, they do!

[Mod Note: This appears to be in reference to?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/23800]

Where would I go to find the email delivery history? The bounce history I can find.

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 07:55 PM, Zelda Collett-Paule wrote:

I sent an invitation on November 6.? No response?yet. ?:-(

What is the status of your transfer?? See /g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948

It sounds to me like you may have skipped a step or done something out of order. See /g/GroupManagersForum/message/23597

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On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 06:09 PM, ro-esp wrote:

I have a problem with calling it an announcement-group when most members of the group
cannot use it to announce things at all.

We (you and I) use a different dialect based on where we live.? I wouldn't call it a newsletter because that would imply (to me) that others contributed.? I can't think of a better word than announcement to describe how I understand it without getting into a long description.? The only thing that comes to mind is Private Announcements, but that's not quite true either.? I do understand your statement though.

Duane
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On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 08:55 PM, Zelda Collett-Paule wrote:

I sent an invitation on November 6.? No response?yet. ?:-(

Zelda -- It should not take that long.

Check your status per?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948. If it says "be sure to invite [email protected]"?or something to that effect, your invitation did not work and you will need to send another one. Be sure to send it from your YAHOO group.

Bruce

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 07:28 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:

if you try to transfer a Yahoogroup whose membership does not overlap with the IO group at all, into a subgroup of that IO group, does that mean that none of the Yahoogroup's members will be transferred?

Or does transferring into a subgroup simply automatically make those users also members of the main group?

If you include Members in the transfer to the subgroup, they're added to the main group and the subgroup.

Duane
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