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Re: Bouncing Members
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 09:28 AM, David Bryant wrote:
Roughly 35% of the members have yahoo.com email addresses. A very few of these (four people so far) showed up as hard bounces? after we moved to groups.io, even though yahoogroups.com's status report says they have never bounced at all. I have asked them to re-enroll with non-yahoo addresses.It's not unusual for people that didn't show bouncing on YG to actually be bouncing.? The YG mechanism has been, at best, intermittent for years. 66.175.222.12 is the IP address of its outbound mail server for GIO.? It's reporting that the emails were bounced by the next email relay server. Additional (expanded) information on bouncing at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/dealing-with-bouncing Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Bouncing Members
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:28 AM, David Bryant wrote:
Here's my question. I have seen soft bounces on seven other accounts. One of those is at mac.com. The other six are all at Yahoo! (or old Baby Bell affiliated) addresses. And these six bounce incidents all occurred at the same node on the internet: 66.175.222.12. I did a WHOIS lookup, and this ip address is assigned to LINODE LLC, a provider of virtualization services.David -- I think you've somehow misinterpreted the bounce report. That IP address is groups.io's, and Linode is the company providing groups.io's hosting service. If you could actually paste those soft bounce reports into an email and send it our way perhaps we can better assist you. Regards, Bruce |
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Re: Bouncing Members
I've got a question about bouncing email messages that is not addressed on the help page.
My group migrated from yahoogroups.com last month. Roughly 35% of the members have yahoo.com email addresses. A very few of these (four people so far) showed up as hard bounces? after we moved to groups.io, even though yahoogroups.com's status report says they have never bounced at all. I have asked them to re-enroll with non-yahoo addresses. Here's my question. I have seen soft bounces on seven other accounts. One of those is at mac.com. The other six are all at Yahoo! (or old Baby Bell affiliated) addresses. And these six bounce incidents all occurred at the same node on the internet: 66.175.222.12. I did a WHOIS lookup, and this ip address is assigned to LINODE LLC, a provider of virtualization services. Does anyone know if groups.io has a procedure for notifying a big internet service provider like LINODE LLC that one of their servers is mis-configured? I would try contacting them myself, but they probably won't listen to me. I've been down that road before, and it can be very difficult to convince a random tech support guy that I know just as much about computers as he does. I see that their "Admin" email address is listed as dns@..., and that the ICANN registrant is named Christopher Akers. Thanks! -- David Bryant Canyon Lake, Texas / |
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Re: Trouble logging in on android phone
Cookies are needed to progress from page to page on secure (login) websites. The cookie is what keeps you from having to login to every successive screen. If someone blocks all cookies, things don't work.?
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Re: Help with Yahoo group transfer - it appears to be stuck
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 09:34 AM, Dog Health wrote:
My bad but why is there a member on my DogHealth2 group which I made a moderator?Dog -- The GIO invite/direct add process should have rejected any email address with the @groups.io domain. Are you sure someone didn't use that for a Display Name? If you believe the transfer agent is nonetheless a member of your GIO group you will have to send a screenshot so we can help you troubleshoot that. Bruce |
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Re: Help with Yahoo group transfer - it appears to be stuck
irmautz is not part of the transfer team. At least no one else has mentioned it! That's a new member.
Did you set up your Groups.io group as restricted?? Did you want to screen new members before approval? See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice And an overview of setup -? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation [email protected]?needs to join your YahooGroups, as you realized. And made a moderator. You said: Why is there a transfer.group.io member on my DogHealth2 group which I made a moderator?Sorry, I can't figure out for sure which is YG and which is Gio. Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Re: Invitation sent from the group issue
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#invitation
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 08:39 AM, JobHelp wrote:
I'm hoping the list I submitted is sitting in a queue somewhere waiting to be approved, or did I misunderstand that as well?Once that list is approved, all the invitations will be sent.? Based on recent information, large batches like that may get a bit more scrutiny, but should be approved.? You may or may not run into the same situation when inviting more than 20 in the future.? That seems to be a variable that we haven't nailed down. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Invitation sent from the group issue
#addmembers
#invitation
From our GMF wiki:
Why Can't I Invite More than 20 People to My Group?
Well, you actually can....but if you Invite (or Direct Add) more than 20 people to your group in a 24-hour period, you will likely receive this message:
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You have reached the limit for number of invites that can be sent out without approval. Once your new invites have been approved, they will be sent out. You will receive a notification when this happens.
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See https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/7589 for an explanation of why this delay/review exists. Yahoo groups has a similar requirement, designed to thwart those who would set up a group and use it for spamming purposes. This "delay for review" applies no matter which plan you are on -- free, premium or enterprise.
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To be totally clear, this is not a "limit"...you can send as many invitations as you want. However, there will be a waiting period while groups.io management reviews the list of invitees to ensure you are not a spammer. The remaining invitations usually go out within a few hours. If you wish, you can go to Admin>Invite and click on the "Sent Invitations" button at the top to check status (or wait for the promised email notification).
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Generally, it's highly recommended that you send all your invitations at once. You can do this by uploading a plain text file (not CSV, not Excel), containing all of the addresses, one address per line (and nothing else). Or simply cut-and-paste all of the email addresses into the Invitations box.
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There is no advantage to sending invitations in 20-person batches. Doing so will only incur additional delays.
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-- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Invitation sent from the group issue
#addmembers
#invitation
After testing a small batch of invites I submitted a list of our Yahoo group membership for invitation, roughly 4,000 members, and received the?you have reached your limit message .? My fault for not digging into this prior, but I hadn't realized that there was a limit.? After searching the managers group I find it is 20 invitations a day.? I mean even Yahoo allows 100 invitations per day.? I am now faced with a 200 day long process for all of my Yahoo group members to receive an invite.? I'm hoping the list I submitted is sitting in a queue somewhere waiting to be approved, or did I misunderstand that as well?
Assuming it is in a queue and does eventually get approved, will that process affect my ability to send invites during that period?? Pretty much every Monday morning we have over 20 new members join our weekly meeting and I want to send them invites instead of them having to request access.
Regards, ? Mike ? |
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Re: Cancel Member Transfer portion of Group Transfer
#addmembers
#transfer
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 08:20 AM, Peter Holtzman wrote:
With 58.33 hours notice we cannot somehow ¡°recall the missiles¡±? People get very pissy about being spammed, and if we are repeatedly re-adding them to a group they no longer want to be a part of, that is spamming them. I¡¯d like to avoid that.Well, you could have avoided it by not adding them in the midst of the transfer process.? Your only hope now is to contact [email protected], but they haven't done it for other groups.? That's why it's so important to understand the transfer process and follow the steps exactly. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: "Average Pace" of transfers
Dear friends,
My little group has moved!? A quick check shows that all photos and files are intact; based on message counts we may have lost 7 posts from my group's earliest years, 2009-2011, but I haven't investigated and might not. And frankly I feel like I got a bargain by paying $110 and choosing not to expedite.? The transfer seemed to go smoothly for members too.? In case this timetable is useful to others who're still waiting patiently in the queue: Sat 10/19/2019 Alerted members of my group about Yahoo¡¯s plans and discussed options (Google groups. Groups.io, Facebook, plain email, dissolution).? People liked my description of Groups.io especially the ability to preserve ten years¡¯ worth of content.
Sun 10/20/2019 Created group at Groups.io.? Signed up for Premium and paid $110 (which doubled two days later).? Sent invitation for [email protected] to join our Yahoo group.? Heard nothing.
Fri 10/25/2019 Invitation was finally accepted.? (Whether it was Sunday¡¯s or Thursday¡¯s, I don¡¯t know.)? I swiftly upgraded [email protected] to moderator and gave the go-ahead for transfer.
Sun 10/27/2019 Finally progressed to step 3 of 4.? Place in queue #644.
Mon 10/28/2019 #633.
Tue 10/29/2019 #618.
Wed 10/30/2019 #584.
Thur 10/31/2019 #553.
Fri 11/1/2019 #543
Sat 11/2/2019 #521
Sun 11/3/2019 #504
Mon 11/4/2019 #455? (Wow!? Was #472 in early afternoon, rechecked at 6 p.m.)
Tue 11/5/2019 #363 (at 9 p.m., was #404 at 10 a.m.!)
Wed 11/6/2019 #197 (at 6 p.m., queue moving briskly!)
Thur 11/7/2019 #162 at 12:01am, #104 at 10 a.m., #89 at 1 p.m., #48 at 11 p.m.
Fri 11/8/2019 Transfer took place at about 7 a.m.
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Caveats:
These weren't necessarily sampled at the same time of day, so they're only a rough measure of the daily pace.
Kudos to GIO, and..well, raspberries to Yahoo, my real sentiment wouldn't get past a moderator. Kathy ? |
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Re: auto sending of files
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 07:54 AM, Barbara Jean Jasen wrote:
yahoo some files we had set to send out to members on joining, some every two weeks, some on leaving.? How can I set the files here so I can do that?On GIO, you can't send files like YG did.? You can create Member Notices (top of the Settings page) that should accomplish the same thing.? Additional information at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: What does NC mean?
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHowever, you can download the member list, which provides a csv file that contains the members' statuses. You can import that csv into a spreadsheet program and sort by status.? Gilbert On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:01 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 04:48 AM, Marina wrote: |
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