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Re: "Average Pace" of transfers

 

Woohoo!? Last night there were 19 groups ahead of us, this morning, 0.? It took 15 days from start to finish (began on 10/20).


Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

The data for all the groups you belong to comes in one zip file (almost 1 GB for me), with sub-folders for each group, further divided into sub-folders for messages, files, photos, links etc.

Lily


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 09:56 AM, Ruth Daniels wrote:
Here's a thought.? I requested the Yahoo download (via Yahoo) which told me my download request has been accepted.? While waiting to see if this will happen, it occurred to me that I don't think it asked which of the 8 groups I'm owner of I wish to download.? So will all the groups data come in together? or will it create an error message such as others have received??
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Also, it could be that the Error message doesn't describe the error; it's just a default system error message.
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Ruth D


Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

Here's a thought.? I requested the Yahoo download (via Yahoo) which told me my download request has been accepted.? While waiting to see if this will happen, it occurred to me that I don't think it asked which of the 8 groups I'm owner of I wish to download.? So will all the groups data come in together? or will it create an error message such as others have received??

Also, it could be that the Error message doesn't describe the error; it's just a default system error message.

Ruth D


On Monday, November 4, 2019, 11:36:52 AM EST, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:


Gerald,

> In order to download your groups' data, you must be logged into Yahoo
> using the Yahoo account that can see all of your Yahoo groups.

Understood, and I was.

> It doesn't matter which email addresses you have defined for the
> individual group "Identity".

Do you have evidence for that, or is it just a logical assumption. I
assumed that too, but I was given the "no data" answer.

> However, I suspect you also must have gone through the "Oath"
> acceptance.

I accepted their TOS early on, when first required. So that's not the
issue in my case.

Shal


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Re: Transfer from YahooGroups to Groups.Io #transfer

 

Check the red status box on top of the transfer page. If it says to send the invite, do it again. One you do, keep that page up until they accept it.

I didn¡¯t realize that my sent invite was lost in space at some point, and lost of week waiting for it.

Diane


Re: What if you don't want to pay for expedited transfer?

 


Re: Syncing new messages from Yahoo to Groups.io after group transfer #yahoo

 

CL,

I wrote:

I don't recall if it was the -subscribe request (spoofed From the
Groups.io posting address, courtesy of my Yahoo Mail account) or the
invite that worked.

It was the invite. The confirmation request for the -subscribe did come through eventually, but I was impatient and succeeded with the Invite before then.
In the case of an invite it would be important to check the "Add only to mailing list" box to avoid the need to associate it with a Yahoo ID (account).
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The result is a bit ugly though, as the messages come through with the
Groups.io footer appended below the Yahoo Group footer.

Another ugliness is in the Pending page, where the Yahoo Group messages all list a long -sentto address as the sender of the message. But that's seen only be me (the approving mod) so not a big deal.

One defect is that owing to how Yahoo Groups mungs the from address, putting the posting member's email address in the clear in the Display Name part of the From field, the posting member's full email address displays at the top of each message. This may be a fatal flaw for the experiment.

BTW I'm doing this experiment as a possible way to continue publicly archiving messages in that Yahoo Group, which intends to stay at Yahoo even after the December 14th cutoff. No members there but me.

Which is a different motive than covering posts in the interim between initiating a transfer and its completion. But it should work all the same. Your mileage may vary as to its suitability for your purpose.

Shal


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Re: What are the email addresses I should use?

 

I think the monthly message was the same very month, and I assume it will be that way on groups.io. What it will say depends on who is in charge of the group. I have determined that will not be me. But the man who is giving up the group said he is asking some friends about taking over.?


Re: What if you don't want to pay for expedited transfer?

 

Okay, thanks. Well, then I can't do it.?

I have the messages in my daily digests in emails, but they'll just be harder to find.


Re: The Hashtags feature is part of which plan?

Christopher Kroschel
 

I read that they are created when entered in the subject line...?


Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

Gerald Boutin
 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 12:36 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Gerald,

> In order to download your groups' data, you must be logged into Yahoo
> using the Yahoo account that can see all of your Yahoo groups.

Understood, and I was.

> It doesn't matter which email addresses you have defined for the
> individual group "Identity".

Do you have evidence for that, or is it just a logical assumption. I
assumed that too, but I was given the "no data" answer.
Logical assumption. How else would Yahoo know which groups to download?

I had several identity addresses that I used to sort out emails from different groups. Some were Yahoo and others weren't. That did not cause any issues.??My download included all of my groups that I still belong to.

(FYI: The download also included files and photos that were uploaded after the supposed October 28 deadline.)


> However, I suspect you also must have gone through the "Oath"
> acceptance.

I accepted their TOS early on, when first required. So that's not the
issue in my case.

Shal


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Re: Transfer from YahooGroups to Groups.Io #transfer

 

I suspect that your original invitation from Yahoo Groups to the Groups.io transfer email address was never sent by Yahoo Groups (in my experience with transferring 19 groups, I have found that 3 out of 10 invitations fail because Yahoo Groups is so flaky. If I were in your shoes, I would re-send the invitation from the Yahoo Group immediately.?


Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

I logged in with my Yahoo ID when requesting the Yahoo groups data download. My default email address is at gmail.com
After 8 days, I receive notification that my Yahoo groups data is ready for download today. As far as I can tell, I see data from all the groups I belong to, not just the ones I manage. For those who got no data, perhaps try again?

Lily


Re: Subgroup for Email Only #subgroups #email

 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 02:25 PM, Frances wrote:
My only suggestion - name your subgroup so it is obvious which is which. Then no Board member will post on the wrong one.
Does this not overlook the possibility of simple human error? The sentence would then read Then no Board member should post on the wrong one.

It only needs a momentary loss of focus to send a sensitive post to the wrong place, especially if all it needs is to select the wrong email address. Opportunities for human error may be reduced, but they cannot be eliminated altogether.

Chris


Re: Syncing new messages from Yahoo to Groups.io after group transfer #yahoo

 

CL,

I've thought of directly adding the Groups.io group address to the
Yahoo group, but it looks like Yahoo is requiring a Yahoo ID for that
now.
I was able to do this.

One key is to check the "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" box in the Groups.io group. That does mean that I need to approve all such posts, but because the Yahoo Group is not a member of the Groups.io group the original poster's From information comes through in the display name of the message. Also, there is no chance of a message loop.

I don't recall if it was the -subscribe request (spoofed From the Groups.io posting address, courtesy of my Yahoo Mail account) or the invite that worked. In the case of an invite it would be important to check the "Add only to mailing list" box to avoid the need to associate it with a Yahoo ID (account).

The result is a bit ugly though, as the messages come through with the Groups.io footer appended below the Yahoo Group footer.

I would rather have used an Email Integration address than the group's posting address for this, to avoid the moderation requirement, but Yahoo Groups called the coded integration address Invalid and wouldn't let me invite it, nor respond to it when it tried to -subscribe.

Shal


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Re: Anything like yahoo links functionality? #howto #messages #links #featurerequest

 

It is in the ¡°More¡± menu (at the bottom) on a mobile devise.


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What is this 'Easy Group Transfer'?

Dave -- For details on this, just click the link, found at the very bottom of every page here in groups.io (may not be visible on your mobile device).





Can I import an export from Yahoo Groups?

Earl Baugh
 

Hello,

I tried the migration strategies when we first moved our group from Yahoo to groups.io.? Nothing worked out in terms of migrating historic content.
I just recently was able (with Yahoo's latest tools) download all the content from the group.?? So at least now I have an archive of the old content.

I was wondering, is there any mechanism to import this content into my already existing Groups.io group??? Groups.io is working fine for us
(much less hassle than Yahoo and FINALLY timely delivery of messages...)

Thanks!

Earl


Transfer from YahooGroups to Groups.Io #transfer

 

I started the process per the:
/yahoo/transfer page
to move the EuropaAssociation@yahoogroups to [email protected]. I paid the $220 premium fee and went through the "set up new transfer", including sending an invite from the Yahoo group to [email protected]..

Per the transfer page the next step is that groups.io will accept the invite and sent me an email directing me to make the [email protected] member a moderator. However, it has now been 10 days and I have still not even been contacted by groups.io. I cannot find anything on this site that gives me any way to contact groups.io about this problem. Can anyone here help?

Thanks
Arthur Goodwin


Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

Please let me know what happens. I was unable to add the email address I use for groups to the list of addresses yahoo has on file for me. Seems they no longer allow that. Maybe there¡¯s a way around that though.

Susan B

On Nov 4, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Susan,

I got that same message saying no data available from yahoo and
wondered if it¡¯s because my email address for groups i joined is
different from my yahoo accoint email address.
Oh, that's an interesting idea.

And it might be spot on, as my account's Yahoo Mail address has never appeared in any of my group memberships. When I created my account it was optional to create a corresponding Yahoo Mail inbox, and I chose not to.

So maybe I should go join that address to all of my groups, and promote it to the appropriate Role where I can, and try the request again.

But seriously Yahoo... If this is correct then it means they searched out content based on the account's Y!Mail address, and not the account ID or any of its alternate (recovery) addresses. That feeds into my bias that Yahoo Mail was the primary cause of most of the problems encountered by Yahoo Groups users.

Shal


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Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

Our group too is looking right now at the PGOffline.? At the present time, our Yahoo Group is the largest tractor membership of 2793 members within Yahoo Groups after the Verizon takeover.? Before that, the John Deere group was the largest.
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Our only concern is having messages as an archive to review when needed.? Most of the messages deal with tractor fixes, 3pt attachments, and what size diesel engines can do what type of work.
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Myself and other group members no longer have a Yahoo Owner nor moderator anymore.? Thus, it's just a few of the members doing the work.? We lost the owner back in 2009.? Then the mods during the Verizon ordeal because none of them could get their accounts to work, even with Yahoo assisting them.
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So, after trying a few of the Python options (most didn't work now after the Oct 28th date) PGOffline seems to be our only option as small farm farmers don't have $220 to go premium nor another $200 to expedite.

So, with email addresses, how are we handling this ???? We have sent out DAILY reminders for folks to join us at Groupsio post on the current Yahoo Gruops.? We have posted this in various tractor forums on the web as well.? Both in English and in the known other international countries too.?

Sure, it would have been GREAT to have an owner or mod helping in this, but nobody is left.? Our group was left on AUTO-PILOT.? Our issue is, the plane is running out of fuel on Dec 13th at midnight, and how do we land this thing.? Groupsio is the runway in sight.?? We want all aboard our membership to survive, but we do know there will be those as causalities.?? BUT, some farmers are now in retirement homes, passed on already or let the business.
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Re: Group already part of a transfer

 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:52 AM, Pete Twissell wrote:
The page tells me that group is already part of another transfer.
I suspect that a transfer may have been started by the previous owner, but a search in groups.io doesn't show any group with a similar name or content.
I have asked the previous owner of the Yahoo group for help, but not sure if he will be able to.

Can anyone advise me how I should find out about the 'other transfer' that my Y! group is involved in and how to resolve this situation, please?
This has happened before, and only support can look up the other transfer for you ([email protected]). At that point you should be able to contact whoever owns the other group and find a way to work out which will proceed (i.e.: who is going to delete their pending transfer request).

Regards,
Bruce