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What Mute/Follow features are available to email-only members (i.e. those w/o website access)?

It seems there is little or no control for?Email-only members?because:
1)???I have not found email commands for Adv. Preferences: i.e. “Follow Only” or “First Message Also”
2)???The wiki page on Muting & Following says: “The (footer) links (for mute or follow) take you to the Groups.io web site to confirm or cancel the action." ?This implies?website?access is required.

I'm preparing to move a private YahooGroup where half the members only use email, don't have web access.

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On 2 Nov 2019, at 10:43, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Lawrence -- It is possible to post messages to a group using an alternate address, by setting up an email alias. But if you want to receive messages from those groups, the only way to do that here is to join with the new email address and unsubscribe with the old one.

Thanks. I will check up on the option of using another address for posting messages. It might help.

The main downside to all that is what you have encountered. Frankly, trying to use more than one email address here can be quite inconvenient. After a few times of finding yourself unable to access group content because you're logged in under the wrong address, I suspect you will end up merging these accounts again.
Bruce

You are probably right about that. My real problem is increasing age and probably senility which I why I don’t adapt to new systems as easily as I used to.

Lawrence

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:58 AM, Lavon wrote:

The person who put in birthdays in our database left the group.? ?How do we remove them from the database?

Lavon -- Click open the link to the database in question, then click on the "Edit Table Properties" button at the top of the resulting page.

To delete the entire database, scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the red "Delete Table" button. If you just want to delete the birthdays, find that column block and click on the little "X" at the top right to remove it. Then scroll down and click the blue "Update" button.

Bruce

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:47 AM, Winnie wrote:

I have several databases in my group and a few of them have addresses of the members. Each time the database entry of a member is changed, the country disappears. So I have to enter the country name again. The rest of the address remains as it was entered. How can I prevent the country name disappearing?

Winnie -- I am not able to replicate this behavior, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening.

This may be an artifact of the way groups.io interacts with Google Maps. Is your group on the Premium or Basic plan??Does the problem occur if you remain in List View??

Unless you really need map view for something, you might have more success defining that column as type "Single Line Text" instead of Address. Or you could try splitting out the Country into a separate column.

I hope something in there helps.

Bruce

I have several databases in my group and a few of them have addresses of the members. Each time the database entry of a member is changed, the country disappears. So I have to enter the country name again. The rest of the address remains as it was entered. How can I prevent the country name disappearing?

Winnie

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:33 AM, Lawrence wrote:

As I said, I would like to be able to split some groups from one account and move them to another account without moving all of them.

Lawrence -- It is possible to post messages to a group using an alternate address, by setting up an email alias. But if you want to receive messages from those groups, the only way to do that here is to join with the new email address and unsubscribe with the old one.

The problem is probably that I was used to being able to do that easily in the Yahoo Groups so I was hoping to be able to do the same here.

In groups.io, your email address IS your account identifier.

One advantage of doing it that way is you don't need to set up a separate account identifer/user ID within groups.io -- if you have an email address, you already have one. It also allows groups.io to do the "email me a link to log in" thing if you don't want to (or simply never get around to) setting up a password.

The main downside to all that is what you have encountered. Frankly, trying to use more than one email address here can be quite inconvenient. After a few times of finding yourself unable to access group content because you're logged in under the wrong address, I suspect you will end up merging these accounts again.

Bruce

Thanks for the suggestions which are appreciated.

From Frances:

My email (Apple Mail) does that for me - made rules in iCloud.
What email client are you using?

I am using Apple Mail on this computer, a Mac mini, and I use Thunderbird on my PC.

You could rejoin some groups with different email address, if you wish. Then cancel the subscriptions that are duplicates.

That is the only option that I can see so far but it is one that I wanted to avoid.

Most of the groups that I am in, owning some and a member of others, are for Amateur Radio so I use my callsign in my domain name for my email address. The other groups are for other purposes and I prefer to use another domain name for those which does not use my callsign.

I know how to merge the groups into one account or to change to another email address for all of them but I don’t know how to split some groups away to another account.


From Jonathan Sivier:

Why not just use a filter on your email program to direct the messages from different groups into different folders. …

Yes, I have done that in both Mac Mail and Thunderbird. It solves half of the problem but not the one where I want to use different email address domains for different purposes.

As I said, I would like to be able to split some groups from one account and move them to another account without moving all of them.

The problem is probably that I was used to being able to do that easily in the Yahoo Groups so I was hoping to be able to do the same here.

Once again, thanks for all the suggestions.

Lawrence

For detailed instructions on how to conduct a Yahoo Groups transfer please refer to this message:?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19673

Please read carefully and do each item in order.?

Rather than repost or edit it every time I want it to send, I'm linking to it now. Time will tell if that works any better.

Regards,
Bruce
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Here's how to check your transfer status.

1. Go to the Yahoo transfer page at?/yahootransfer
2. Select the transfer you want to check status on from "View Existing Transfer Status" list at lower right (click on?its name)*
3. The box at the top of the resulting page will tell you the status of that transfer.
4. Repeat for any other transfers you may have in progress.

For transfers that are actually approved and in progress, see also:??to see where you are in the queue.

Regards,
Bruce
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:22 AM, Erika Baker wrote:

I got the notification from Yahoo that the transfer agent had joined the group and so I went back to the transfer page, expecting the status message to have changed. When it didn't and didn't change, I refreshed the page, but instead of taking me back to the same transfer page it took me to the "request a transfer" start page.

My fault... but what do I do now?

Go to?/yahootransfer?and click the link at bottom right (under "View Existing Transfer Status").

Bruce

We've been in the queue since last Sunday, started @ #483, now down to #367 :-(? But I don't know if that's indicative of any "average" . . . .

Dan

Thanks, Ken. 10,000 images will be more than enough
Lynne

Thank you, Bruce. If we start using too much space I'll transfer photos to Google photos.?

I'll just let everyone know that they can't send attachments.
Lynne

No, I'm using the same email address.

It's my fault, really. I got the notification from Yahoo that the transfer agent had joined the group and so I went back to the transfer page, expecting the status message to have changed. When it didn't and didn't change, I refreshed the page, but instead of taking me back to the same transfer page it took me to the "request a transfer" start page.

My fault... but what do I do now?

Kathleen,

When the emails are being delivered, they are showing as
[email protected]

By "the emails" do you mean Welcome notices, or other Member Notices?

If you changed your group's email address due to that typo you'll need to go into the Member Notices tab of your group's Settings page and update any existing notices - that doesn't happen automatically.

If you mean message posts by members, that's effectively impossible once the change has been put into place. Maybe you're looking at messages that were sent before the change?

Shal


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Susan,

My question is do they all get moved or sent invitations to join once
IO groups transfers me over.

They all get copied into your Groups.io group (except those in the Bouncing list at your Y!Group, and those whose address already appears in your Groups.io group). It isn't an invitation that requires any kind of response, they're in immediately.

Details here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Note particularly the controls for what notifications are sent to the copied addresses.

Shal


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Erika,

My transfer page that was to update with the notification that the
invite had been accepted suddenly disappeared.

This most likely means that you are now logged in using a different email address than the one you used when setting up the transfer.

The transfer control and status mechanism is tied to the account (email address) of the person who initiated it.

Shal


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I initiated a transfer and invited the transfer agent?to my Yahoogroup. My transfer page that was to update with the notification that the invite had been accepted suddenly disappeared.

Where can I find it again? I had a message from Yahoogroups that the transfer agent has joined the group and I have set them to moderator, but I can't now get back to the groups.io page to confirm the transfer and to follow its process.

Hi all,

This week's change log, and the 18th's:


(There was no change log last week)

Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

NEW: For premium/enterprise groups on annual billing, we now send out
a courtesy reminder two weeks before billing them.

This was cited in an answer to a question, it seems like forever ago.
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/35555435#19588

NEW: Testing prioritizing support emails from group owners of premium
groups.

That's something that was once promised on the Pricing page, but Mark removed it because it wasn't implemented, and he couldn't figure out how to express what it would mean.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

INTERNAL: Various software changes and additional machines to deal
with the extreme massive influx of new groups.
API: Added signature to member_info object.
API: New endpoints: newpoll, updatepoll, getpoll, vote.
API: New endpoint: registeruser.
API: New endpoints: newwikipage, getwikipages, getwikipageset.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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