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Re: Emails from New Members

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Thank you.? One of our members was unable to deliver her message and this was what she received.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shal Farley via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:47 PM
To: GMF <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GMF] Emails from New Members

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Rene,

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I changed all of the members and owner¡¯s settings to match this message below and I am still unable to receive emails from one of the owners.? He keeps trying to reply and nothing is coming through.

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On his next attempt have him CC the message to your personal email address. Then, assuming you receive that, you can examine the To: field to verify that he sent the message to the group's posting address. Oftentimes it is as simple as a typo.

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Assuming the To address of his message was correct, tell us what you find in the group's Activity log. There should be an entry corresponding to that attempt.

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Re: creating a desktop shortcut for groups.io

 

On 2019/04/04 01:08 AM, Gabriela Kioupakis wrote:

Is there a way to create a desktop shortcut for Groups.io?
Do you use an e-mail program (e.g. Thunderbird, Outlook), an e-mail web
site (e.g. Gmail) or the Groups.io web site itself to read your groups?

If you're using the Groups.io web site itself, which browser do you use?
Oh, and which operating system (and which version) do you have?

Is there a standard graphic I should use?
There doesn't seem to be a Groups.io icon pack available yet. I needed
one a while back, but could not find any.

Samuel


Re: creating a desktop shortcut for groups.io

 

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 12:08 AM, Gabriela Kioupakis wrote:
is there a way to create a desktop shortcut for groups.io? is there a standard graphic i should use?
Yes of course; the ability to do that is a function of your browser, not of Groups.io. See your browser's instructions for how to do it. The graphic will be set automatically.

Chris


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Ken,

Plent wide before replying, no joy on the toolbar.
Do any of the browsers on that device have a zoom control that will let you "back out" (make the text smaller). When I've tried that on the desktop I've found that is is another way to get all of the buttons to appear.

But remember you must do it before clicking New Topic or Reply - the content of the button bar seems to be fixed for the effective screen size at that moment.

Shal


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Re: allowing subscribers to create subgroups?

 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 08:24 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Did you find the answer? The regular (non-admin) Subgroup page shows a button for the member to create a subgroup.
That menu item does not show up until the first subgroup is created. The group Owner has to create the first one, no matter what you have in your settings.

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Re: allowing subscribers to create subgroups?

 

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Laura,

How can my subscribers create subgroups if they don¡¯t have an admin tab where subgroups are located? I see in settings that I have granted access to subscribers to create subgroups.

Did you find the answer? The regular (non-admin) Subgroup page shows a button for the member to create a subgroup.



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Re: Getting a copy of your shares

Ellen McDonald
 

In the members settings, preferences, at the bottom of the page is a box to check if you want to receive a copy of your own shares. She has this box checked in all 4 groups, but only gets her own shares from 2 of these groups. No, she is not on Special Notice or anything but & gets all the groups mail, she does not get a copy of her own in 2 of those groups.
Thank You
Elen


Re: Using website, vewing UNread messages within an ALREADY read topic?

 

Jay . . .

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:10:39 -0700, jay@... wrote:

I¡¯m in a Groups.io vs. Slack discussion and email overwhelm (when getting emails for each message)
This might be overwhelming if you did this for many groups, but what I
do is create message filters (rules) and a separate folder (like
another inbox) to sort the messages form a group or related groups.
For example, I have several ham radio groups filtered into a folder
called ham radio. I have a couple of automobile repair groups go into
a folder called automobile.

In my email reader, and most I've seen, like Thunderbird (free),
Postbox (based on Thunderbird but not free), and MS Outlook, new
messages in those special folders show a number next to them if there
are new messages, indicating how many new messages are there and
unread.

Whether you want to do this is up to you, but there is information on
the web on how to do this, and I think we could possibly help a little
here if you need some help doing this.

That way, you get your separate messages and not in what I feel is an
inconvenient digest format, and also keep them out of your inbox.
You're free to ignore your group messages and focus on your inbox, and
if you set filters up for multiple categories, you can, say, filter
advertisements form companies you deal with into a folder called
advertisements if you wish. I do this in Postbox for my Gmail. For
email from my ISP email address, I use Forte Agent for my email reader
but do much the same thing for the ham radio, automotive, and some
other groups. In this email program I have many folders, 13 of which
are for various Yahoo and groups.io group messages. It keeps the
messages out of my inbox. If I need to catch up on email and don't
care about reading messages in a couple large groups, I can right
click on the folders and choose mark folder read and skip reading
those. The support groups like this one are candidates for that, and I
sometimes go back at a later time and scroll down to see the various
older topics but I don't feel an obligation to do so. If I See
something interesting, I can go back and read the message(s).

Making separate group folders in your email client or program is a way
of achieving what it seems you're looking to do without having to wait
for a groups.io change to do it. You can have that almost immediately.
Donald


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creating a desktop shortcut for groups.io

Gabriela Kioupakis
 

hello all,

is there a way to create a desktop shortcut for groups.io? is there a standard graphic i should use?

thx for any advise you are able to give.

gabriela


Re: reached limit of new members

 

Press the Invite button and then? the Sent Invitations button.? This will give you a list of those individuals that were sent messages. There is a column for date invite was sent and each individuals status (Accepted/Sent).


On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 2:24 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Hi Liz,

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I received a message that i had reached the limit of adding members without approval, and then something about members would be approved.?
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As an anti-spam measure, your invitation list will be reviewed and (presumably) approved by Groups.io. It may take a few hours for that to happen, maybe days but not usually that long.
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And now there is no trace of these member invitations in the "pending" list, which i expected.
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Invitees need no further approval (from you) so they don't go to the group's Pending list. I don't recall precisely, but I believe they should still be showing on your Invite page.
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Will I need to resend these invites?
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Nope, just hang tight.
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what is the limit for whatever it was that I reached?
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Twenty in a 24-hour period.
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What are the next steps?
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Once your invitation list is approved by Groups.io the next step will be up to each invitee. As each one receives and accepts their invitation he/she is added to your group's Members list. The Invite page should also show you each one's status.
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Re: Using website, vewing UNread messages within an ALREADY read topic?

 

Jay,


My question/point is can that link be generated slightly differently once you visit it and then a new message gets added to the thread. That way it would at least turn blue again next time you visit the topic list to show a new message is in the topic someplace.

That seems like it could work. Perhaps as simply as adding the message count as a no-op parameter to the thread link. I don't know how many users might find that disconcerting though, as they may be accustomed to seeing the mark as "I've looked at this thread" without being interested in whether there's new messages in it.

The other factor is that I think a page refresh will be required to see the effect of a message being added to the topic by someone else. I don't think Groups.io's pages are dynamic in that way.

Could do that even without a specific app.

Could do any of this without a app, I think. I'm not sure why the inbox and the app are tied together in Mark's mind. Perhaps that has to do with infrastructure issues that I know nothing about.

To bring the idea to Groups.io's attention you are invited to post it in the group. That's the site's official suggestion box - no one from Groups.io monitors GMF. Maybe wait and see if any other GMF members have a thought on the topic first.

Shal


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Re: Using website, vewing UNread messages within an ALREADY read topic?

 

Thanks for the info. At least I don¡¯t have to keep trying to figure it out.

I wasn¡¯t quite clear on my topic coloring blue vs. black point. I understand General web browser behavior. My question/point is can that link be generated slightly differently once you visit it and then a new message gets added to the thread. That way it would at least turn blue again next time you visit the topic list to show a new message is in the topic someplace. Could do that even without a specific groups.io app.

I¡¯m in a Groups.io vs. Slack discussion and email overwhelm (when getting emails for each message) vs. knowing what is new and I need to read (when not getting emails per post) is a key stay with groups.io vs. try Slack point.


Re: Using website, vewing UNread messages within an ALREADY read topic?

 

Jay,


How does a user on the website view (or differentiate) UNread messages within an ALREADY read topic?

That's a feature that doesn't actually exist yet. But it is being worked on:

"As an aside, this is a big reason I want to complete the app and add unread message tracking (ie Groups.io Inbox)." []

Foo topic name is blue since I have never read it.
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I click Foo and read all 5 messages and return to the topic list where Foo is now black as expected.

That effect is happening within your web browser. Your browser is keeping track of your recent history and "knows" which pages you've visited. The only involvement by Groups.io is that its style sheet told the browser what colors to use for visited versus unvisited links.

You'll probably notice that effect on other sites as well.

Shal


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Using website, vewing UNread messages within an ALREADY read topic?

 

Trying to track this down for my users. Most users do all reading on the Groups.io website only with no email.

How does a user on the website view (or differentiate) UNread messages within an ALREADY read topic?

That is, I go to the website and see a topic Foo with a icon next to it with a 5 in it indicating helpfully that there are 5 messages within Foo. Foo topic name is blue since I have never read it.

I click Foo and read all 5 messages and return to the topic list where Foo is now black as expected. Time passes. 3 more messages are emailed or added on the web by others to the Foo topic.

How do I know they are there? If I refresh the page is my Foo link now blue?

If my link is blue and I click it, how do I know which messages have not been read? (And if this is a topic with 500 messages and 30 scattered new ones even more so how do I know unread ones?)

Thanks!


Re: reached limit of new members

 

Hi Liz,

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I received a message that i had reached the limit of adding members without approval, and then something about members would be approved.?
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As an anti-spam measure, your invitation list will be reviewed and (presumably) approved by Groups.io. It may take a few hours for that to happen, maybe days but not usually that long.
?
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And now there is no trace of these member invitations in the "pending" list, which i expected.
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Invitees need no further approval (from you) so they don't go to the group's Pending list. I don't recall precisely, but I believe they should still be showing on your Invite page.
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Will I need to resend these invites?
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Nope, just hang tight.
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what is the limit for whatever it was that I reached?
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Twenty in a 24-hour period.
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What are the next steps?
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Once your invitation list is approved by Groups.io the next step will be up to each invitee. As each one receives and accepts their invitation he/she is added to your group's Members list. The Invite page should also show you each one's status.
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Shal
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reached limit of new members

 

I sent invitations in bulk to 53 members, by copying in a list of 53 email addresses each on their own line in the invite address box.?
I received a message that i had reached the limit of adding members without approval, and then something about members would be approved.?
And now there is no trace of these member invitations in the "pending" list, which i expected. I have not been able to find any information about member limits and invitations...although I could have missed something...

Will I need to resend these invites? what is the limit for whatever it was that I reached? What are the next steps?

thanks in advance, Liz


Re: Emails from New Members

 

Rene,


I changed all of the members and owner¡¯s settings to match this message below and I am still unable to receive emails from one of the owners.? He keeps trying to reply and nothing is coming through.


On his next attempt have him CC the message to your personal email address. Then, assuming you receive that, you can examine the To: field to verify that he sent the message to the group's posting address. Oftentimes it is as simple as a typo.

Assuming the To address of his message was correct, tell us what you find in the group's Activity log. There should be an entry corresponding to that attempt.

Shal


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Re: Emails from New Members

Rene Benedict
 

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Thank you.? I changed all of the members and owner¡¯s settings to match this message below and I am still unable to receive emails from one of the owners.? He keeps trying to reply and nothing is coming through.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shal Farley via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:59 AM
To: GMF <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GMF] Emails from New Members

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Hi Rene,

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Once I approve an invitation for a member to the group I am still unable to receive their emails.

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One place to check is your group's Activity log to see if there's any record there of the member's attempt(s) to post. If you see entries marked attempted to send message that should give a reason why their post wasn't accepted by Groups.io for your group.

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Or you may see sent message entries indicating whether the message requires approval or not.

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If you don't see anything about messages in the group's activity log then it may be that the members were sending those messages to the wrong email address. Your group's posting address is listed on the home page of the group.

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I changed their moderation to "override: not moderated" and no luck.

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I generally recommend against using that setting. I think in most cases it is better to set each member to Use Group Moderation Setting so that you can then use the group's Moderated setting to control the group as a whole.

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Am I missing a step or not selecting the right form of moderation?

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Possibly.

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If generally speaking you want group members to be able to post without requiring moderation I recommend checking either the Restricted Membership and/or New Users Moderated box, and unchecking Moderated, in the Spam Control section of the group's Settings page.

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Re: Getting a copy of your shares

 

Ellen, the member can check her subscription by going to group homepage and clicking on Subscription - lefthand menu. Perhaps she is Special Notices only or if you have allowed it in the group settings, No Mail.

I am assuming you mean that the member isn't receiving email from those two groups.?
You can also check Activity in Admin. See Shal's reply about Emails from New Members -?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/15984
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Re: Getting a copy of your shares

 

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 01:09 PM, Ellen McDonald wrote:
I asked her to make sure she had that box checked & she said she does.
Ellen, can you clarify? What box?

Frances
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