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Re: Error when I send the invitation

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Subject: [GMF] Error when I send the invitation
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My name is Dario and I am the only moderator of a group. When I send the invitation to subscribe in the group the system send the message (I think) but the error Deferred 421 [mail] service not available too busy appears, whats the meaning ? For you people that I sent the invitation to subscribe in my group has received it ?
Dario

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Error when I send the invitation

Dario Gabrielli
 

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My name is Dario and I am the only moderator of a group. When I send the invitation to subscribe in the group the system send the message (I think) but the error Deferred 421 [mail] service not available too busy appears, whats the meaning ? For you people that I sent the invitation to subscribe in my group has received it ?
Dario

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Re: File renaming

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 07:05 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
So, I have to agree that it sometimes does change the character from a hyphen to an underscore, although I don't know why the same jpg file worked OK in another group and not in this case.
It isn't even consistent within a group. See recent?GMF message #15445, in which the hyphens in the attached filename seem to have come through intact.

Ghosts in the machine?? :-)

Bruce
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Re: File renaming

Gerald Boutin
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 12:52 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 02:12 AM, Mike Lease wrote:
Hello,

I run a couple of groups for baseball leagues, using APBA's Baseball for Windows. When people attach files, apparently some (though not all?) are getting renamed in a way that makes the software not recognize them as BBW files. The file names are in the format "C-[name].LPF" and "F-[name].LPF". The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_"), and this causes the software to ignore that when I try to load Commissioner or Franchise files. If I catch it when I save the attached files, I can rename them to the right format, but if I don't, I may think that someone has failed to send me a file at all. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

Thanks,
Mike

Finally, we come?to something more directly related to your issue. This message is being posted using the web UI. The online File upload UI does convert the hyphen to an underscore, but only in the UI. The file is saved with the correct hyphen character in it. At least it did when I first tried this as a test. This graphic file showing the behavior in a previous test should be named?Hyphen-Test.jpg.
Mike,

On further review,?it seems that I have reproduced what you have noticed. It has been pointed out to me that this time, the file shows up in the GMF group with the hyphen changed to an underscore. I don't get emails from this group, so I don't know how the filename appears in an email client.

So, I have to agree that it sometimes does change the character from a hyphen to an underscore, although I don't know why the same jpg file worked OK in another group and not in this case.

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Re: Attachments on calendar invites

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 03:16 PM, Andy W wrote:
I figured it's not used anymore.
It is a bit behind.? Mark has been trying to find a way to keep us up to date, but not use much of the time he could spend programming.? He even asked for suggestions on beta@ awhile back.

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Re: On website page, allow customization of number of rows #suggestion

 

Actually, you have the options of 20, 50, 100, or infinite scroll.? (Infinite Scroll doesn't work on all items/pages, such as a Database.)? Go to your Account by clicking on your name at the upper right, then select the Preferences page.? The setting is near the bottom of the page.

BTW, this is a user-to-user group.? Suggestions should be made on the beta group.

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Re: Calendar Cancellations Not Sending Updates #calendar #issue

 

Hi Bruce,


On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 06:08 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Kenny -- These two statements strike me as mutually exclusive. Did you wait a few hours for the subscribed calendar to update? Such updates are subject to a polling schedule and do not occur in real time.
I learned about the polling issue in a different thread. ;-)? Having learned about that, rather than waiting for a poll I have verified this by both forcing updates from a confluence subscription and also from deleting the subscription and re-subscribing via g-cal.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Kenny Paul wrote:
Suggested work-around(s)??
You may just have to get into the habit of deleting cancelled events instead of using the GIO "cancel" function, in concert with a manual notification. The option also exists to edit the event description to anything you feel would provide adequate notification that it isn't going to occur.
I am in the habit of deleting event. Let's just say that my repeated attempts at educating my large audience to also following that practice hasn't yielded much result when they are looking at a big fat "Cancel" button. :-(

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Re: Attachments on calendar invites

 

Hi Duane,

that could be it.? In the message composition area when creating a calendar event there is no option to insert an image or attach a file.

I've looked at that Trello board before but everything I've looked at seemed to have 2015 & 2016 dates.? I figured it's not used anymore.

Andy


On website page, allow customization of number of rows #suggestion

 

For Messages and Members, it's laborious to page through screens.? It
would help if there was some customization of the number of visible rows.

The existing build allows 20 rows (see attached screenshot). With the
Web 2.0 habit of scrolling, I suggest you permit a user to specify a
larger number of rows to display.

Just as an aside, I've been very pleased with the smooth transition from
Yahoo Groups to Groups.io.? Judging by the number of questions from our
users - barely any - this was far more seamless than I expected.

Jonathan Bernstein


Re: Is the Calendar public to the entire group?

 

Hi

In Settings, scroll down to Features, Calendar.
Check that subscribers can view. ?Pick Subscribers can view, moderators can edit.

If you wish them to edit as well, check that one - subscribers can view and edit.

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Is the Calendar public to the entire group?

 

I ask because my members keep telling me their birthdays aren't on there even though I put them on and I c an see them all.? Are they crazy or am I?

Thanks, we're new here and we love it.

Beth


Re: Attachments on calendar invites

 

Do you mean ?

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Re: File renaming

 

On 3/8/2019 9:32 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 08:05 AM, Mike Lease wrote:
Most of the time, the dash comes through just fine, just some people
seem to have them turned into underscores, and they swear they're
not renaming them that way themselves (the software creates the
files with the dash in the name). I'm just baffled as to why it's an
issue for some, but not others.
It seems obvious that GIO is not changing it, so this must be happening with their email client. Have those who are experiencing this problem check their client settings to see if there is something that would affect it. If they aren't savvy enough to do so, let us know what client/OS they are using and maybe we can look it up.
Hope this helps,
Bruce
Is it possible that the original file names are using an n-dash or m-dash typographical character instead of a hyphen? This might cause a problem depending on whether the message is sent as plain text versus HTML.

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Attachments on calendar invites

 

Hi,

I found several references and requests in the GMF and beta archives to have the ability to add attachments to calendar invites, but it doesn't appear to exist.

Am I missing something or is it in the pipeline?

Andy


Re: File renaming

Gerald Boutin
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 02:12 AM, Mike Lease wrote:
Hello,

I run a couple of groups for baseball leagues, using APBA's Baseball for Windows. When people attach files, apparently some (though not all?) are getting renamed in a way that makes the software not recognize them as BBW files. The file names are in the format "C-[name].LPF" and "F-[name].LPF". The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_"), and this causes the software to ignore that when I try to load Commissioner or Franchise files. If I catch it when I save the attached files, I can rename them to the right format, but if I don't, I may think that someone has failed to send me a file at all. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

Thanks,
Mike
Mike,

I cannot duplicate what you say is happening.?However, I did note some unexpected behavior?somewhat related to what you are saying.

As a test, I included several attachments in an email. All attachments arrived fully safe and sound as distributed to the group via email.?Two of the 4 files were not saved online, but that wasn't totally unexpected as they were empty files. The other two files, one with hyphens and the other with underscores in the name were correctly saved with the filename as uploaded.

I repeated the same test via the web interface to upload files to the Files directory. The files with content were saved with the filenames intact. Again, the empty files were not saved. The upload went through all of the motions, but there were no messages at all and nothing was actually saved.

Finally, we come?to something more directly related to your issue. This message is being posted using the web UI. The online File upload UI does convert the hyphen to an underscore, but only in the UI. The file is saved with the correct hyphen character in it. At least it did when I first tried this as a test. This graphic file showing the behavior in a previous test should be named?Hyphen-Test.jpg.





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Re: Honoring original Message-IDs in reflected messages

 

Ken


I don¡¯t (yet) use it, but Is that because gmail has an option to file replies with the original message? ?

My experience is that this behavior is independent of having Conversation Mode turned on or off in the Gmail web interface. In fact it applies even if you are reading via a POP or IMAP client application.

That said, it likely is a result of the same mindset that created Conversation Mode. An attempt to automatically organize messages according to someone's idea of how things should be. It is likely also related in mindset to the bizarre way that Gmail handles POP clients (they had a better idea).
I use a dinosaur 2003 Outlook and have that option turned on.?

Outlook? Well, there's no accounting for taste.? ;-)
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Re: File renaming

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 08:05 AM, Mike Lease wrote:
Most of the time, the dash comes through just fine, just some people seem to have them turned into underscores, and they swear they're not renaming them that way themselves (the software creates the files with the dash in the name). I'm just baffled as to why it's an issue for some, but not others.
It seems obvious that GIO is not changing it, so this must be happening with their email client. Have those who are experiencing this problem check their client settings to see if there is something that would affect it. If they aren't savvy enough to do so, let us know what client/OS they are using and maybe we can look it up.
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Hope this helps,
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Re: Honoring original Message-IDs in reflected messages

 

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You can already turn off the Message-ID substitution, with the downside that Gmail will not place the returned message in your Inbox (IIRC it does show as a second copy in your Sent folder). Or you can leave it on, with the downside that your user interface might have wanted to use the Message-ID for threading. I don't see that there's anything else?can do for you.


Shal

I don¡¯t (yet) use it, but Is that because gmail has an option to file replies with the original message? ?

I use a dinosaur 2003 Outlook and have that option turned on.?

Ken


Re: Calendar Cancellations Not Sending Updates #calendar #issue

 

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 01:51 PM, Duane wrote:
On the Calendar, the event still exists, but was changed to a gray bar (instead of the red that was chosen when creating the event) and says "This event has been canceled." when hovered over and in the event description.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 04:22 AM, Kenny Paul wrote:
There is nothing to differentiate a real meeting from a cancelled one when viewed from a subscribed cal.
Kenny -- These two statements strike me as mutually exclusive. Did you wait a few hours for the subscribed calendar to update? Such updates are subject to a polling schedule and do not occur in real time.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Kenny Paul wrote:
Suggested work-around(s)??
You may just have to get into the habit of deleting cancelled events instead of using the GIO "cancel" function, in concert with a manual notification. The option also exists to edit the event description to anything you feel would provide adequate notification that it isn't going to occur.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: File renaming

 

It appears to be an attachment, not a link. I use Thunderbird to read my email, and that's how it shows up (in Yahoo groups, it's clearly a link, but groups.io seems to be sending them along as actual attachments). The problem is, it's not consistent. Most of the time, the dash comes through just fine, just some people seem to have them turned into underscores, and they swear they're not renaming them that way themselves (the software creates the files with the dash in the name). I'm just baffled as to why it's an issue for some, but not others. Thanks.