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Re: New Group Not Being Created From Yahoo Groups

 

Cathy,

I guess it would be a Yahoo question:

"If you delete an email address from the member list, can they join again
later?"

Given some of the odd things Yahoo has done in the past, it would not
surprise me if that created an issue that was effectively blocking the
transfer id from groups.io. I don't think it does, but given other things,
I'd not be surprised.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: New Group Not Being Created From Yahoo Groups

 

I did see the invited message in Yahoo Groups in the activity log so I got thru their?
rigermorole. I was logged into other tabs but that was true for every other group that I have created. But I wasn¡¯t ?logged into groups.io with that computer, I was logged in with my iPad

I accepted the other users invite by email but I didn¡¯t get one for transfer (note that the other user doesn¡¯t appear as a member in YahooGroups)?

i have always been logged into groups.io with the same username, it is the only one I use for groups.io and I am one of the multiple owners of this group

By the lov I mean the list of values for In Process, this group does not appear there. Is there a limit to the number of groups you can own in the free edition?

I would love to get past the first one

I have waited from two weeks to two hours, same result.?

I apparently did delete a [email protected]?in YahooGroups in October, though I have no memory of doing so

thanks!
cathy


Re: New Group Not Being Created From Yahoo Groups

 

Cathy,


So, I tried inviting two users to YahooGroups including [email protected]
? ?It said 2 sent successfully
? ?I got an email for the other user that I was invited and to click to join the group, I did but that user doesn¡¯t appear on the member list

Did you manage to go through all the rigamarole Yahoo's web site puts you through? Be sure you were not signed into Yahoo with your browser (in any other window/tab) when clicking that link.

Was any entry made in the group's Activity Log? Check all the tabs, but I think the Membership tab should show "joined via web' if you succeeded.

Or, try accepting the invitation by email (just reply to it).


I checked groups.ionfor the message you mentioned above - no message at the top of the screen and this group still doesn¡¯t appear in the in process lov

The status messages only appear on the page that you get to via the link in the In Process list.


could the issue be that someone besides me created the Group?

No, I've stepped in to help with a transfer when someone else created the group (and the Yahoo Group). But you are required to have the owner Role in the Groups.io group, not just moderator.

And... you are required to be logged in using the same email address that you logged in with when you initiated the transfer. If another owner initiated the transfer then you can't see it in the In Process list.


would it help to delete the group and recreate it?

No. I don't think the problem is with either group or how they are set up.

could our files in yahoo groups be somehow corrupted?

That's always a possibility, but it wouldn't cause you not to see the transfer as In Process. Any corrupted files would likely be skipped, and detailed in the tally that the transfer agent emails at the end of the transfer.

... and another response said that would wipe out everything that we have. Which is it?

No, setting up a second transfer won't wipe out anything from the first. But I think you need to get past the first one first.

Shal


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Re: New Group Not Being Created From Yahoo Groups

 

Cathy,

How many days are you waiting between actions? Keep in mind many of these
steps are manual, humans are involved, and it takes time. I recall it took
about 2-3 days before the invite got the transfer user into the Yahoo group.
Then I had to make it moderator and fill out the next step in the groups.io
side of things. Then it was between 1 and 2 weeks before the group was
copied.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: New Group Not Being Created From Yahoo Groups

 

So, I tried inviting two users to YahooGroups including [email protected]
? ?It said 2 sent successfully
? ?I got an email for the other user that I was invited and to click to join the group, I did but that user doesn¡¯t appear on the member list

I checked groups.ionfor the message you mentioned above - no message at the top of the screen and this group still doesn¡¯t appear in the in process lov

i am getting desperate!
could the issue be that someone besides me created the groups.io Group?

would it help to delete the group and recreate it?

could our files in yahoo groups be somehow corrupted?

i have seen two answers here about converting the users first and then convert the rest of the data later ?(I could just manually add the users for now): one said no problem to add the history later and another response said that would wipe out everything that we have. Which is it? I don¡¯t want to take a chance of wiping everything out everything that is new

thanks!
cathy


New GMF wiki page

 

There is a new GMF wiki page called?Help! I Can't Find Any Group Content!

Please review and revise as needed.

Bruce
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Re: Group member has "No subscriptions"

 

That would suggest to me that she has logged in with another email address, not the one that she used to join your group.

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Re: Group member has "No subscriptions"

 

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 10:14 AM, A and M Parker wrote:
One of my group members is unable to access the Groups.io website as when she accesses the site she cannot access anything. I have asked her to click on anything at the right hand end of the blue bar - she sees her name and when she clicks on it she gets the response that she has "no subscriptions".
If she's getting "no subscriptions," then she didn't click on her name...that would come up if she clicked on "Your Groups."

How do I help her please? I have not seen this situation in any emails to this group or have had it reported to me by any other of my group? members.
Most likely, she is logged in under the wrong email address.?Find her member record in your group (Admin>Members) and find out what email address is subscribed. Send her that with instructions to pull down her name at upper right and select Logout. If she logs back in using the correct email address she should then be able to access your group content.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

P.S. This is such a frequently asked question that I can't believe we don't have a wiki entry for it yet. I will start one.
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Re: The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Invalid email address #transfer

 

Step 2
Send an invite from your Yahoo Group to [email protected]


On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 9:15 AM Tucson Computer Society <al@... wrote:

1. Did the transfer at?/edittransfer?start=1
2. Di the invite at?

Result of #2
The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Invalid email address


Strangely, similar old posts #4113 & #2740 remain unanswered?



Re: The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Invalid email address #transfer

 

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Tucson Computer Society wrote:
Result of #2
The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Invalid email address
You have to invite the transfer agent to your Yahoo group.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8697?
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The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Invalid email address #transfer

Tucson Computer Society
 

1. Did the transfer at?/edittransfer?start=1
2. Di the invite at?

Result of #2
The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Invalid email address


Strangely, similar old posts #4113 & #2740 remain unanswered?



Group member has "No subscriptions"

 

One of my group members is unable to access the Groups.io website as when she accesses the site she cannot access anything. I have asked her to click on anything at the right hand end of the blue bar - she sees her name and when she clicks on it she gets the response that she has "no subscriptions".

How do I help her please? I have not seen this situation in any emails to this group or have had it reported to me by any other of my group? members.

MargaretbParker
UK


Re: RSVP responses truncated

 

I agree, this seems minimally useful.

Try pulling down the green "Email" menu below this and select Export Responses. Can you read what Alex will be doing then?

If not, I suggest reporting this to ?requesting a feature enhancement. It doesn't make sense to collect RSVP messages if there's no good way to display them.

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Question [about learning how to run a group]

 

I just recently assumed responsibility for a few groups for someone until they return after some health issues are taken care of.
Also I am thinking about starting a couple groups of my own.
I presume that you are now a Moderator or perhaps an Owner of these few groups - look around and methodically explore them to understand the ¡°mechanics", especially all of the ¡°Admin¡± section (including everywhere it goes). Do not change anything, but figure out what each item does and how the choice made affects each of these groups. Many things are clear and often ¡®obvious¡¯, others may require searching the Wiki and/or messages on this group.

Think about what you like and what you would want to do differently for when you set up your own groups.



I was wondering if there is such a thing as a PDF file of something that a newbie, especially with IO, can get to read to get a heads up of what to do, when to do it to work at opening and maintaining a good group that functions well.
As Duane said, GMF's wiki is intended to be a good place to start; most of its content came about from questions other people have asked. Don't worry too much about topics you don't need or understand, they may not fit your situation or the nature of your group(s).
You¡¯ll probably find the wiki less overwheming if at first you only look at the parts of it that interest you, rather than trying to read, understand, and remember it from ¡¯start to finish¡¯. The wiki is more like a cook book than an encyclopedia or dictionary, not everything is in there and most people do not want to (and will not) read it ¡®cover to cover¡¯.


There are two aspects to running a group well. One we can call the "mechanics" of the job - knowing how to use the site's features and controls to do the things you need to do.
That half of it, the other 90% is:
The other is managing the members - dealing with questions, conflicts, and other issues that come up.

The first thing to recognize is that there are many different types of groups. Many groups are "discussion" groups (like this one), where all members are invited to start new topics and reply to other member's topics. Other groups are more like classified ads, where members are invited to post new topics, but replies go off-list (directly to the sender of the post). I've only scratched the surface, but the take-away is that you may need to tell us a little about the nature of the group(s) as context for your questions.


Re: RSVP responses truncated

 

Hi Bruce,
Here you go.? If you adjust the size of the active browser window more shows, but that doesn't necessarily let you read the whole message unless you are very lucky.? :)


Re: EMAILING

Ellen Bourne
 

Shal, I am not getting anything but 0

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Re: EMAILING

 

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Ellen,

Bruce I am not certain if I did this correctly.? I entered the below in the analysis

You can't do what Bruce asked until you actually receive the message. You haven't, have you?

Yes, please let me know where it is hung up

Did it post in your group's Messages section? No sense looking for it by email if it didn't even post there.

What did the group's activity log say about it? You should see some entry there at the time you sent the message.

Shal


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Re: EMAILING

Ellen Bourne
 

Bruce I am not certain if I did this correctly.? I entered the below in the analysis?

PRAY FOR MARION MORRIS BROTHER-IN-LAW


Yes, please let me know where it is hung up


Ellen
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It's time to start subtracting."





On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 7:46:41 PM EST, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 07:44 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
Its there was sent at 3:43 pm today
Run the header of the message you got back through this:???

It will tell you where the message was held up.
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Re: EMAILING

 

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 07:44 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
Its there was sent at 3:43 pm today
Run the header of the message you got back through this:???

It will tell you where the message was held up.
?
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Re: EMAILING

Ellen Bourne
 

Its there was sent at 3:43 pm today
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Ellen
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